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Don't forget (and really, how could we?) that Delgado hasn't played all year. I'd like to think that he would've had more than 10 homeruns this year. Beltran would've had more than 20. Wright had hit a few right before he got hurt. I'm good with leaving the field as is, having a slugger at first, and having speedsters ion the outfield. Pitching, speed and defense. What a novel idea.

Johnny Bench and Steve Garvey.

Its not that they can't or shouldn't cheer, but Wagner? Fine, give him a golf clap for his return from his injury. Pedro? He's pitching for the Phillies for Pete's sake. We are supposed to boo the enemy. He was received like he'd won a World Series MVP and was returning home for the first time. That reception would've been fine in Boston, but not here. And irish - no offense, and I understand that you haven't been rooting for the Mets for 35+ years, but anything Pedro did while he was here isn't even on my top 25 best Mets memories.

Wagner�s hero�s welcome was dissonant. Agree 100% with that. Fans are stoopid. Same thing with the fans that gave Pedro a hero's welcome at today's game. WTF? He was a mediocre pitcher at best for the Mets and they didn't win anything of substance while he was here. Now he's on the Phillies and he gets roundly cheered? Amazing.

That guy is the latest celebrity sex-tape scandal dude... Eric Dane, Rebecca Gayheart Threesome Sex Tape Hits the Internet

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22tlphg5]That's a 4-game series, but they're wearing it only 3 games?[/quote:22tlphg5] Yeah, because, you know, that makes sense. Valadius Aug 12 2009 02:45 PM That looks like a Saturday afternoon drunken softball league jersey. G-Fafif Aug 12 2009 02:52 PM Inspiration, apparently, here[/url:4wn5d7yk]. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 02:52 PM ="Valadius":1u3i00pu]That looks like a Saturday afternoon drunken softball league jersey.[/quote:1u3i00pu] Not really, I don't think. Farmer Ted Aug 12 2009 02:58 PM How about they throwback to the 60s Mets unis the way they SHOULD look? Ronnie said the other night that he regretted not being able to wear the classic Mets road uni, instead having to wear the "piping" uniform that never felt comfortable. I hear ya brutha. G-Fafif Aug 12 2009 03:12 PM ="Farmer Ted":3lurfiek]How about they throwback to the 60s Mets unis the way they SHOULD look? Ronnie said the other night that he regretted not being able to wear the classic Mets road uni, instead having to wear the "piping" uniform that never felt comfortable. I hear ya brutha.[/quote:3lurfiek] Mets have worn '69 throwbacks a couple of times and I'd be surprised (even if this is the Mets we're talking about) if they don't bring them back for the 40th anniversary reunion in a couple of weeks. metsguyinmichigan Aug 12 2009 03:14 PM I LOVE this. Baby steps, people. We know the team is heritage-acknowledgement challenged. They heard the complaints and they're making an effort . Frayed Knot Aug 12 2009 03:19 PM ="metsguyinmichigan"]We know the team is heritage-acknowledgement challenged. They heard the complaints and they're making an effort . By honoring some other team's heritage it seems to me. I don't get too worked up over this stuff one way or the other so this is not something I'm going to go to the mat over, but I don't see how this promotes NYM history or tradition. G-Fafif Aug 12 2009 03:38 PM The Mets didn't hatch from nothing in 1962. It's a nice one-weekend nod to their other slightly indirect ancestors, with the NY representing the bridge from New York (N.L) prior to New York (N.L.) present. I do, however, draw the line at Stoneham Plaza. And let us not overlook the rest of the release which says the installations and banners are going up. I've been as down on the Mets as anybody in this realm but I applaud their taking, as MGIM put it, baby steps. bmfc1 Aug 12 2009 04:29 PM Congrats to the Mets. Too bad it took 3/4 of the season for them to do something that should have been done by Opening Day but let's not dwell on that. Four good Mets things in one day: signing Matz; lowering some ticket prices; throwback unis to honor the NY Giants; and, banners/photos/pennants on the walls. Mex17 Aug 12 2009 04:45 PM The banners HAVE been up all year (on the flagpoles on top of the Pepsi Porch). I have no problem with additional fake banners for 69/73/86/00. If they add the bullshit ones for 88/99/06 again I'll be as pissed off again as I was all those years they were up at Shea. Gwreck Aug 12 2009 06:14 PM There's nothing wrong with putting up flags for winning the division. Wild card? Nope, unless you also win the pennant. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 06:20 PM There should be a place to commemorate every season, doesn't have to be a flag over the field. Maybe next to the Great Met Wall of Former Player Signatures. How's that project coming, I wonder? Kong76 Aug 12 2009 06:26 PM Mex17: I'll be as pissed off again as I was all those years they were up at Shea <<< They have meds for that. metsguyinmichigan Aug 12 2009 07:26 PM ="Frayed Knot"]="metsguyinmichigan"]We know the team is heritage-acknowledgement challenged. They heard the complaints and they're making an effort . By honoring some other team's heritage it seems to me. I don't get too worked up over this stuff one way or the other so this is not something I'm going to go to the mat over, but I don't see how this promotes NYM history or tradition. The front of the ballpark honors another team's heritage. So now they're going for a little balance. It's hard for them to wear 1969 throwbacks because they're not all that different from the pinstripes they wear now, especially if you get beyond the first level of the ballpark. It's not like they're going all Mercury Mets here. Nymr83 Aug 12 2009 07:31 PM ]Fourthly - dollars to doiughnuts that this hideous uni will return next year in some similar form as an 'alternate' they'll return sooner- as merchandise on mets.com, because thats got to be the real reason behind these. Kong76 Aug 12 2009 07:38 PM Seriously, does anyone get off the subway and walk towards Citi Field and think of Ebbets Field or the Dodgers after a couple of months now? Nymr83 Aug 12 2009 07:57 PM ="Kong76":uhl1k8h3]Seriously, does anyone get off the subway and walk towards Citi Field and think of Ebbets Field or the Dodgers after a couple of months now?[/quote:uhl1k8h3] when i get off the subway? no. when i enter the jackoe robinson shrine? yeah. which isn't to say that i care much is anyone here old enough to have gone to Ebbetts Field often enough to have alot of memories of it? do those people think 'Dodgers' when they get to Citi? Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2009 08:23 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2009 08:29 PM I suggest the Mets commemorate this season with a red cross, rather than a flag. Kong76 Aug 12 2009 08:27 PM For me, the whole Jackie thing wore off after two rides up the escalators. I think more about peeing, next beer, some grub, or finding people I might be looking for. Ashie62 Aug 13 2009 11:18 AM I don't care for retro Jerseys, but this NY Giants one is "OK" I thought it might have lapels and it doesn't. I hope it doesn't come with a baggy cap. These retro things remind me of the White Sox short pants motif in the 70's. David Wright in shorts..That would be a hoot metirish Aug 13 2009 11:21 AM From the Daily Snewz ] MORE TO COME: Fans will see more tributes to Mets history during the upcoming home stand. According to a team statement: "The Mets have begun installation of photographic imagery of famous players and historic moments in team history on the field and promenade levels as well as the display of team championship banners on the left-field wall."

That's even uglier than I imagined.

]...they will honor their National League heritage by wearing throwback uniforms inspired by the turn of the century New York Giants uniforms... The cream-colored jerseys feature an oversized blue "NY" on the front, blue and orange piping on the sleeves and a Mr. Met patch on the right sleeve. Fiirst of all - how can they be 'throwback' if they are brand new uniforms that no team has ever worn before? Secondly - they sound hideous. Thirdly - They sound suspiciously like one of those versions of a uniform we were all voting on a couple of months ago. Fourthly - dollars to doiughnuts that this hideous uni will return next year in some similar form as an 'alternate'. Fifthly - I just hat everything about Mets baseball this year.

Last night I had the game on. My son came into the room and saw Corey Sullivan batting leadoff, he looked at me, eyes wide open, looked back to the TV, saw that it was the top of the first, crossed his arms, closed his eyes, dropped his head, shook it in a side to side motion then walked out of the room.

You guys are making me sad.

Oh please, its obvious that Adam Rubin wants Omar's job.

="Edgy DC"]Same trainer as last year. Same trainer maybe but the training staff is minus this guy, Jeff Cavaliere: And he's the one who developed this Now I'm not going to go as far as saying that Cavaliere's absence is the reason for the plethora of leg injuries, but I think it merits some discussion. Oh, and while Cavaliere no longer works for the Mets, he continues to be employed privately by David Wright. Wright, it can be noted, has had no leg issues this year.

Agreed about the skills seminar but at least it provides another line defense if sued. Its like how the Long Island Railroad got sued after a woman fell between the train and the platform. Now there are big, garish yellow triangle warning signs plastered everywhere on the trains making certain that you are aware of the 'GAP'.

As a dad who has volunteered to be a little coach, I'm really disappointed to see that they settled and paid this family. Maybe it would have cost more to continue defending the case but by showing people that if they bring a suit there is a good chance of a payday they've opened a can of worms here. Little League solicits dads - any dads - to coach. We all have the best of intentions but I'm not a professional baseball coach. I don't have a degree in physical education. For all I know, I am teaching the kids the wrong way to slide. But if I don't volunteer to coach, who will? So now what happens? All dads who want to coach have to go through a mandatory skills seminar? Paid for by who? Little League? The kids? The dads? We play against towns whose families are so poor that some of the kids can't even play because their parents don't have the $50 that it costs for the season.

They do deserve it.

Um, cooby, this is a 'men only' thread. So if you don't mind....

Allegedly.

Joe DiMaggio Bares All A full-frontal nude of baseball great Joe DiMaggio, showering after a game, is currently on view in the exhibition Hunted and Gathered at the gallery Modernism in San Francisco. The photograph, which was taken around 1940, reveals the naked Yankee slugger soaking wet and grinning happily. It is part of a collection of quirky, anonymous photographs assembled by Robert Flynn Johnson, curator emeritus of the Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco. When asked where he got the photo, Johnson joked, "I have friends in low places." Read it at San Francisco Chronicle Joltin' Joe's Johnson

="metirish":1jyuugqc]Omar hummed and hawed...[/quote:1jyuugqc] That's being nice irish. Again, Omar sounded like an illiterate boob. He cannot speak! A Boy Named Seo Jul 27 2009 07:30 PM ="metirish":2ws987f9]You gotta hold a press conference for that?, issue a press release and get it over with.[/quote:2ws987f9] Bingo bango. You should lobby Jeff for a job. Talk shit about peeps to get it, if you have to. Edgy DC Jul 27 2009 07:44 PM Bobby Valenitne has a GM/manager hybrid job coming up. Fman99 Jul 27 2009 07:48 PM ="Edgy DC":3oad47yi]Bobby Valenitne has a GM/manager hybrid job coming up.[/quote:3oad47yi] He's got my vote. Konnichiwa Bobby! Methead Jul 27 2009 07:48 PM If Jeff Wilpon really gets a call per week from people looking for career advice, then he certainly won't mind if I call. metirish Jul 27 2009 07:49 PM ="soupcan":hfbbduwr]="metirish":hfbbduwr]Omar hummed and hawed...[/quote:hfbbduwr] That's being nice irish. Again, Omar sounded like an illiterate boob. He cannot speak![/quote:hfbbduwr] Minaya under stress sounds even worse than he usually does. PiggiesTomatoes Jul 27 2009 07:57 PM Thanks for the thread. I missed the clusterfuck and didn't realize Tony B. had been fired until seeing a crawl a couple innings ago. Very Knick-like. This crap has to end. Nymr83 Jul 27 2009 08:10 PM theres a method to minaya's madness... i'd normally turn this thing off after the final out, but now i want to see what jerry has to say when they ask him about the pre-game idiocy. Edgy DC Jul 27 2009 08:31 PM Omar needs a pile of wins to preserve himself, so look for the internet to fill with "All this winning is terrible" posts. Nymr83 Jul 27 2009 08:53 PM a pile of wins could stop the story from blowing up even further. Though you'd have to think the Daily News will be gunning for Omar until fired at this point, and the others will follow suit in a typical "i better write about what the other guy writes about" media orgy. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 27 2009 09:29 PM ="Methead"]If Jeff Wilpon really gets a call per week from people looking for career advice, then he certainly won't mind if I call. "Mr. Wilpon, I've been hemming and hawing between obstetrics and oncology..." "Kid, no matter what you choose, just make sure you stick with it, regardless of the results, or what your own instincts tell you, or what trusted friends tell you... you've got to stick with it until it's way past too late to change. Then, if you need to, you make a change. But not until it's WAAAAAAAAY too late. Got it?" LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 27 2009 09:31 PM ="Nymr83":gq5x8wjs]a pile of wins could stop the story from blowing up even further. Though you'd have to think the Daily News will be gunning for Omar until fired at this point, and the others will follow suit in a typical "i better write about what the other guy writes about" media orgy.[/quote:gq5x8wjs] Um... you think his staying on is at all tenable? Really? Nymr83 Jul 27 2009 10:15 PM i think its very hard to fire someone that you owe three more years of salary to and that the Wilpons could always fire him in September (steal a backpage when they're dying) if things dont blow over. themetfairy Jul 28 2009 06:31 AM Lisa Olson rules, as always[/url:3hh96qwk]. duan Jul 28 2009 06:38 AM Omar Minaya was way past a line throwing that out there unless he had something he was actually willing to stand over. Ashie62 Jul 28 2009 07:57 AM I guess Omar can't say Bernazard had a moment all to common to active alcoholics Rubin & Omar should have to spend the rest of their lives on an island for the remainder of there lives starting tomorrow.. Edgy DC Jul 28 2009 07:58 AM This is where I'm curious. Does this hurt the organization's standing with the team? Does it affect their play? Mets players stunned by strange day at Citi Tuesday, July 28, 2009 By KATIE STRANG caitlin.strang@newsday.com What began as a routine news conference to announce the dismissal of Mets executive Tony Bernazard took a bizarre turn Mondaywhen general manager Omar Minaya accused Daily News sportswriter Adam Rubin -- whose reporting played a role in Bernazard's firing -- of improper conduct. In the Mets' clubhouse, the players were just as stunned as viewers watching at home. "Absolutely," Mets catcher Brian Schneider said when asked if it were one of the most outlandish news conferences the players had ever seen. "Just like Adam didn't expect it, neither did we. It was just kind of quiet, because we were all listening." Carlos Delgado did not see the live broadcast but heard enough about it. "I'm surprised, but anything can happen here," Delgado said. "I wish I would've saw it. I don't want to say it's funny, because it's obviously not funny, it's a very sensitive situation, but maybe there was something out of line and needed to be addressed." Most players -- who were in disbelief in a clubhouse that became circus-like after the news conference -- believe the situation is something that needs to be worked out between Minaya and Rubin, but a couple of players circled the wagons to defend their boss. "If Rubin did what he did, if he asked for a job like Omar said he did, I think he should step out and say, 'Yeah, I did,' '' Carlos Beltran said. "I know Omar and he's an honest guy. I believe he's saying the truth." Gary Sheffield said he did not know what to make of the finger-pointing episode. "I don't know who's telling the truth. I don't know the reporter very well, but I believe Omar is a pretty credible guy," said Sheffield, who said at least a couple of players were laughing while watching the showdown unfold. David Wright said he heard the "rumblings" but had not yet heard the whole story. Said Wright, "You never know what to expect." Ashie62 Jul 28 2009 08:03 AM Little or no effect on team play..at least not with Wright, it seems like he could of cared less or was simply embarrassed possibly. Winning cures all. 4 in a row tonight Centerfield Jul 28 2009 08:47 AM The cynic in me wonders if the press conference was held (rather than a simple press release) specifically so Omar could (whether instructed or not) attack Rubin. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 28 2009 11:43 AM ="Centerfield"]The cynic in me wonders if the press conference was held (rather than a simple press release) specifically so Omar could (whether instructed or not) attack Rubin. Big WINNAH! Anything from row 1 or 2 for the WINNAH! metirish Jul 29 2009 09:29 AM Just for prosperities sake here is the Wilpon Q&A ] Today's Q & A with Jeff Wilpon Tuesday July 28, 2009 9:52 PM By David Lennon Opening apologies: �After what went on yesterday, I thought it was important on behalf of ownership to come out and talk to everybody. I know a lot of you have called and I apologize for not returning the calls and stuff, but you know we�re very sorry about what happened yesterday. It was the wrong forum, the wrong time, a wrong situation for Omar to express himself in that way.� �I have a call into Adam [Rubin] right now to apologize on behalf of myself, the organization, ownership and I know I�m going to ask him if he�ll accept a call from omar. Omar would very much like to call him and apologize for the venue that he took to embarrass him and talk to him in that manner and I�m hoping that Adam will accept that phone call, and I hope he accepts my phone call and the apology from the organization.� Is Minaya sorry? �Omar is extremely remorseful. Omar is upset about this. This has taken a toll on him in a very big way. I think he�s feeling the effects of what he did. He was angry. He was upset. A little bit about Tony, a little bit about some of the things that have been portrayed about the organization, trying to protect it.� �I think he really understands he made a very large mistake here and he�s apologized to ownership, he�s apologized to a bunch of the staff, he understands he put us in a bad spot here.� Did Rubin act inappropriately? �In terms of what Adam did with me, he did nothing wrong. Like I said last night, there are people that come to me all the time and want to know about the sports business, want to know about the real estate business, and what I try to do is be helpful to them in terms of putting them in touch with other people or having a conversation with them about what they might want to do with their career.� I did put Adam in touch with Curt Gowdy Jr. on the network side. I did put him in touch with [assistant GM] John Ricco on the baseball side, I didn�t think twice about it because it does happen a lot.� What is Minaya apologizing for? �Omar will have to address his comments. I know he�s told me he�s remorseful about what he said, and what was done, and I can only apologize from the organization standpoint. Omar made a mistake and he admitted to me that he made a mistake, and he�s apologetic for his mistake.� Minaya�s state of mind? �Omar�s around. As I said, he�s not in a great state right now, this has taken a great toll on him, and I think if you guys can give him a day or so, he�ll be back to Omar. And if we can all give him a chance, I think he�ll come back and make this organization proud.� Are you supporting him as GM? �Yeah. Omar�s our general manager. Omar�s going to be our general manager.� �He hasn�t been reprimanded. I think his remorse in what he�s shown is his sorrow for this and what he knows he did, the collateral damage it caused me, the collateral damage it caused my father, my uncle, the organization as a whole, he feels bad for. And I think that�s more punishment than anybody can ever put on him.� What damage did Monday�s fiasco do? �It hurt the organization. Omar admitted he hurt the organization, and he feels bad about that, and we�ll overcome it. It didn�t go to our values. He didn�t do the right thing. And all I can do is apologize for that and Omar will do that at the right time as well. We have to move on from there and rebuild ourselves. What was Fred Wilpon�s reaction? �Same as mine. He sort of couldn�t believe it was happening when it was happening. I don�t think a lot of us could believe it was happening when it was happening. He was just very angry and got out of his usual mode of dealing with the media and press conferences and stuff, and I think that is what you saw.� Did you know Minaya was going to attack Rubin? �Absolutely not. I didn�t have any knowledge, he didn�t talk to us about it. Omar had been upset with some of the things in the paper, I knew that. But going into this press conference yesterday was to talk about Tony, talk about the situation with Tony and why he was letting Tony go. It had nothing to do with Adam at the time he went into that conference.� Is Minaya still in hot water? �No. I think he knows what he did and I think he knows what the values we want to have here in our organization and he�s willing to deal with the consequences of it.� Did Minaya understand the impact of his accusations? �I think he does regret that. I think he has to answer that. I�m talking about what he said. The question was to me, and what I thought. Did I think Adam stepped over the line? I don�t believe that in terms of my dealings with Adam. Are you going to take a more visible role going forward? �The problem is it was Omar�s direct report that he was talking about, so for me to go in and do a press conference for Omar, for his direct report, that�s never happened before and I don�t think it should happen. Omar knows how to deal with the press and press conferences -- that�s his job. So I don�t think I would do it any differently.� Was Bernazard fired for performance or behavior? �I think our minor leagues � and I think Omar can talk to this better than I can � but he believes are minor leagues are in good shape. He spent a couple of days in Florida and was very happy with some of the A-ball kids. This thing with Tony hurt him, Omar, and it hurt me. I was very close with Tony and I learned a lot from him.� What�s the Mets� overall direction right now? �We need to do better. We need to do better. Ownership is not happy with the direction right now and obviously we have to play better on the field. We need to get the guys back. Once that happens, we�ll see how well this team can do. But it is disappointing, and I can understand the fans� disappointment as well.� Does Minaya�s future depend on the next two monts? Or is he the GM for 2010? Right now, the idea is that Omar is our general manager -- period. Do you need to become more visible? �Omar is the face of the organization when it comes to the overall direction. Jerry [Manuel] is our face of the organization when it comes to the day-to-day baseball. I�m here, believe me. I�ve got my finger on the pulse. You might not see me, but I�m here.� Has Minaya been compromised by his behavior? �I think he can get through it. I think right now it compromised him a little bit, yeah.� How is Minaya doing? �He�s really hurt by this guys. I don�t know how to explain it any better. He was visibly shaken yesterday. He was visibly shaken again today. I spent a good amount of time with him today. He�s still doing his job. He needs a day.� Edgy DC Jul 29 2009 10:09 AM ]Omar knows how to deal with the press and press conferences. That's kind of bogus. ]I�ve got my finger on the pulse. And that's kind of empty. Otherwise, good job by Jeff. Kong76 Jul 29 2009 10:33 AM I saw that whole Q & A with Jeffie and came away from it thinking he really ain't the dope that everyone on the internet makes him out to be. Not saying I particularly like him either, and I don't know all that much about him, but jeez alou for years and years he's just been hammered like a piece of crap. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2009 10:38 AM I think Jeff handled this the right way. He had to establish that Omar wasn't speaking for the organization, but that the organization realized it needed to apologize on his behalf, and that doing that kinda stuff puts people's jobs in jeopardy. dgwphotography Jul 29 2009 10:55 AM I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head... metsguyinmichigan Jul 29 2009 11:58 AM If Jeff wearing a wig, or is there really a barber that charges for a haircut that bad? Edgy DC Jul 29 2009 12:00 PM It's something I've long wanted to ask in a chat with one of the beat guys. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2009 12:11 PM ="dgwphotography":3vlw8t9c]I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head...[/quote:3vlw8t9c] What was that? metirish Jul 29 2009 12:17 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2garmnt0]="dgwphotography":2garmnt0]I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head...[/quote:2garmnt0] What was that?[/quote:2garmnt0] No idea what you said that is stuck in Dgw's head but the quote I remember from JCL about Jeff is " Jeff is the guy that gives millionaires a bad name " , this after Jeff sniffed something about diversifying his portfolio in the wake of the Madoff scandal. dgwphotography Jul 29 2009 02:52 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":20sad8fv]="dgwphotography":20sad8fv]I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head...[/quote:20sad8fv] What was that?[/quote:20sad8fv] Your Marty Noble quote. Frayed Knot Jul 29 2009 02:58 PM Eddie C's speculation on what set Omar on the road to anti-Runin-ism: When the press conference got delayed (as it always seems to be) SNY had some time to kill and spent part of it with Burkhardt interviewing Rubin. This was shown on the TVs in both the offices and clubhouse and apparently some thought they heard some gloating in his answers at having "gotten" Tony. Ergo that ticks Omar off and leads to the impromptu verbal caning. dgwphotography Jul 29 2009 03:00 PM I didn't see that. If he was indeed gloating, that would take him down a few pegs in my eyes. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 29 2009 03:05 PM Didn't see it, either. But, well, let's just say you can't add false modesty to his list of sins (following is from his rebuttal in yesterday's Snooze): ]I want to get something straight. Everything I wrote about Tony Bernazard - bombshell stories that appeared in the pages of the Daily News over the last week - is accurate. My reporting was solid, met the journalistic standards of sourcing and beyond and was untainted by any personal agenda on my part. The Mets fired Bernazard Monday, after conducting an investigation that presumably reflected the damning information contained in my stories. Frayed Knot Jul 29 2009 03:11 PM And Eddie admits to not having seen it either, but rather got that idea via some of those who had both seen it and liked Tony meaning that the perception of Rubin's attitude was filtered through those eyes & ears. G-Fafif Jul 29 2009 03:12 PM ="Frayed Knot"]Eddie C's speculation on what set Omar on the road to anti-Runin-ism: When the press conference got delayed (as it always seems to be) SNY had some time to kill and spent part of it with Burkhardt interviewing Rubin. This was shown on the TVs in both the offices and clubhouse and apparently some thought they heard some gloating in his answers at having "gotten" Tony. Ergo that ticks Omar off and leads to the impromptu verbal caning. Somehow I'm reminded of Oscar Madison hiring a jokewriter to come up with zingers to spring on Howard Cosell...and Felix tearing them up, rescuing them from the wastebasket and delivering them out of order. ]I wish some relative of yours would die and leave you some wax fruit! I'd like to see Evel Knievel jump over your Bermuda shorts! You know your Lautrec is too loose? bmfc1 Jul 29 2009 03:55 PM ="Frayed Knot":ugqsyia0]Eddie C's speculation on what set Omar on the road to anti-Runin-ism: When the press conference got delayed (as it always seems to be) SNY had some time to kill and spent part of it with Burkhardt interviewing Rubin. This was shown on the TVs in both the offices and clubhouse and apparently some thought they heard some gloating in his answers at having "gotten" Tony. Ergo that ticks Omar off and leads to the impromptu verbal caning.[/quote:ugqsyia0] Had to have been whispered to Eddie C. from within the organization in a lame attempt to cover Omar's tracks. Edgy DC Jul 29 2009 05:08 PM I'm going to guess no. bmfc1 Jul 29 2009 05:39 PM Coleman isn't an investigative reporter. He didn't come up with that on his own. Frayed Knot Jul 29 2009 05:46 PM ="bmfc1":331y6747]Coleman isn't an investigative reporter. He didn't come up with that on his own.[/quote:331y6747] Eddie may not be a turn over every rock kind of reporter but he is in the locker room talking to people on a regular basis and at least implied (both in writing and in the radio chat I heard) that it was his speculation based on what some said that that was what set Omar off. Plus if mgmt is the one feeding him that angle I don't see how they think that makes them look any better. bmfc1 Jul 29 2009 05:48 PM Fair enough FK--you heard it, I didn't. I was just suggesting that it's possible that someone in the Mets front office was still trying to cover Omar's tracks. After the other day, anything is possible. Kong76 Jul 29 2009 06:21 PM This whole saga just needs to go away already. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2009 07:17 PM ="G-Fafif":ti9im9j6][ Somehow I'm reminded of Oscar Madison hiring a jokewriter to come up with zingers to spring on Howard Cosell...and Felix tearing them up, rescuing them from the wastebasket and delivering them out of order. [/quote:ti9im9j6] Omar should have called Rubin an inane drone. Rockin' Doc Jul 29 2009 07:37 PM Omar should have called Rubin an assclown. Fman99 Jul 29 2009 07:48 PM Punch -> neck Kick -> **** metirish Jul 30 2009 12:14 PM referring to himself in the third person Minaya apologized today NY Mets general manager Omar Minaya apologizes for causing 'distraction' by criticizing reporter by Brian Costa/The Star-Ledger Thursday July 30, 2009, 11:26 AM ] NEW YORK -- Mets general manager Omar Minaya apologized again Thursday for his conduct during Monday's press conference to announce the firing of Tony Bernazard, during which he got into a heated exchange with a reporter. Minaya said he met with New York Daily News reporter Adam Rubin to apologize in person Wednesday. "You guys know me," Minaya said. "That's just not the way Omar Minaya is, that's not what I stand for, but the bottom line is I made a mistake. The bottom line is that you make a mistake, and I admit to making a mistake in bringing up the things that I did." Sitting in the Mets' dugout before Thursday's doubleheader against the Rockies at Citi Field, Minaya said the fallout from Monday has been a distraction as Friday's non-waiver trade deadline approaches. But he said it hasn't kept him from being active in trade talks. "I've been talking to teams, guys," Minaya said. "I turned down a couple of trades yesterday. I mean, I talked to some teams and believe it or not we had some pretty big names that were presented. That being said, if you talk to general managers around the league, I've been calling around. We have some ideas."

I had to run out in the middle of the thing and missed all the juicy bits. Good thing I got an email from Omar too. Interesting though that he writes much, much better than he speaks.

"I am trying my hardest to not sound like a completely illiterate moron but it is very hard to do." Honestly, it is just painful to listen to Omar speak. Shouldn't a person have to have basic communication skills to be able to get a job like his? I realize that English is his second language but give me a break "There were, you know, interpersonal issues that uh, you know, that, uh, that, uh, that, uh, we as an, uh organization, uh, you know, uh, uh don't, um, uh, agree with, youknowwhatI'msayin'?" Embarrassing.

="metsguyinmichigan"]�That�s an all-timer if true,� an AL official said upon hearing the account, which was corroborated by multiple people with ties to the Mets. --The story is weakened by crap like this. 1) Who is an "AL official?" Someone who works for an AL club? In what capacity? A GM or veteran scout or someone who would know what an "all-timer" actually would be? 2) That's a pretty weak-assed quote to allow someone to hide behind. You couldn't get someone on the record to say something like that or better? Whenever I read 'AL official' or 'NL official' in a local paper I always think that its someone on the Yanks or Mets. Maybe even Cashman or Minaya commenting on the other's club. Who else would a local baseball writer go to for a comment? Some joker on the Twins? you gotta think those guys are on the speed dial anyway - BEEP BOP BOOP - bbrriiiing, bbrriiiing 'Hey Cash, can you give me an anonymous quote?'

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