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so 4x4 sounds good. I only suggested the second night thing because I wasn't sure how long these things can go for. I mean the 30+ rounds are mostly going to be us drafting AA guys we've barely heard of.

I'm going to take a 'head count' as per posting in this thread. But I'll create a league as soon as there is a prevailing majority towards type of stats to use and we can argue about the draft after that.

Okay, can we get some thoughts on which type of league, 4x4 or fangraphs points? also, when would be best for a draft? I think you can pause the draft and pick it up another night, so maybe a couple of tuesday nights in mid-march or something?

metsmarathon wrote: ok. i gotcha. you pick the players in the order that you pick the cards out of the pack. i was thinking you rip open the pack, order the players, and go from there. your way is much more evil. evil is my middle name. Of course I'm open to any interpretation, if enough people want to do it. It probably wouldn't make that much of a difference since there won't be that much overlap between packs.

metsmarathon wrote: i like it as an alternate league. i worry that it might be very challenging to fill a complete/decent roster with a 36-pack. plus the issue of series one vs. series two. draft order would have to be randomly assigned, and i think that as long as any player challenges could be met with a photo of all the cards in the pack, we'd be fine. i would suggest that the players in your pack who you do not draft are available to you as the year goes on. you may pick up any of those players as a free agent, provided you have their card. the player you drop may only be acquired by another team if they also hold the player's card. and what about if you get a team checklist, or manager card, or what not? can you then pick any player on that team? (i kindof like that idea - a checklist type card would allow you to select anyone listed , but you may only use that card in the last round of the draft). any feature cards like league leaders or all stars which feature multiple players would count as regular cards. (or would they be single use cards? if your card has, say, three guys on it, can you pick up any three or only one of the three?) Maybe you need two packs? 72 cards? Obviously it'd be pretty honor system-reliant. Even pictures don't really work, unless you want to make a little you tube video of each of us opening the pack and stepping through the order. I was envisioning a specific order. So you open the top pack, put it on top of the bottom pack and that's your draft order. I'd say checklist/leader cards mean you get to pick one to insert in that slot of the draft. A Wild Card so to speak, but obviously just because you pick a player there doesn't mean you get him, because someone else may have that card and have him higher.

http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/support I favor Fangraphs points, but I'd be good with any of them. What are the different game types? There are 3 game types for ottoneu fantasy baseball. They differ in the categories used and the scoring methods: Old School - Rotisserie-style 5x5 (AVG, HR, RBI, SB, R and W, SV, ERA, WHIP, K). For the traditionalist in you. ottoneu Classic - Rotisserie-style 4x4 sabermetric-hybrid (OBP, SLG, HR, R and ERA, WHIP, HR/9, K). This is the stat set of the original league that has been active since 2005. FanGraphs Points - Points based on Linear Weights. Based on work by Justin Merry. Read his great FAQ about the system, or read more detailed pieces behind the hitting and pitching point values. Hitting AB -1.0 H 5.6 2B 2.9 3B 5.7 HR 9.4 BB 3.0 HBP 3.0 SB 1.9 CS -2.8 Pitching IP 7.4 K 2.0 H -2.6 BB -3.0 HBP -3.0 HR -12.3 SV 5.0 HOLDS 4.0

smg58 wrote: Since I don't think anything's been settled, welcome abordick! attgig wrote: is there still room for another gm in this league? definitely.

smg58 wrote: That might be too random, especially if we want to keep most of the players after this season. Plus you'd need to be on some sort of honors system. But if we have a large number of players drafting 40-man teams, some means of shortening the draft might be necessary. Well i figured this would be typical Yahoo one-year stuff.

I just had a random thought, and I don't know if this would be reasonable, but it _would_ require very little time. You buy one of those 36 packs of Topps cards and rank, in order from top to bottom, the players you get in Yahoo's pre-draft rankings. That's it. No trading/waivers. Just your ~36ish players randomly assigned.

I'm playing around here and I'm starting to think we should just friend @miss_met or @tholemoley since they both seem to show up as friends to every minor leaguer I seem to stumble across.

His (sister?) Jess. (middle)

Here's Matt with his mother.

Another one in Matt's albums

Why'd we leave out our friend Matt den Dekker? Also this facebook page called Mini Mets Pipeline looks interesting: http://www.facebook.com/MiniMetsPipeline?sk=wall

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Nymr83 wrote: Keep your ENTIRE 40-man for next year? Sign me the heck up, I love deep leagues and I love leagues with long term keeper decisions. Let's do it! i would imagine if its truly realistic some players would be due raises? I don't know this. Also, can't imagine you'd wanna keep all 40 but some stability is a good thing. Not sure. I think their value does go up and that affects the cap or whatever. there's a drop deadline every spring. for most leagues it was last week. I saw something about voting off players on the other teams too. I guess that's akin to offering them bigger contracts to leave.

metsmarathon wrote: looks like it could be an interesting thing to try. i'm certain there'll be a significant benefit to anyone whose ever played a auction draft before, and an even more significant benefit to anyone who won't have a munchkin nipping at their heels all night long. the draft will be like herding cats, i'm sure. but what the heck. i have a title to defend. Never have. It'll be interesting though, since it's a continuous league, the balance between signing prospects and guys that'll actually contribute.

#NW top 10 centerfielders right now on @mlbnetwork gonna have to get on this list soon.

We could try Otto Neu if anyone's interested. Keeper style, 40 man rosters, etc. $10 though. http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/userdashboard

The John Henry scene where he discusses the fate of teams that fail to embrace the changing ideas hurt a lot considering that was the very same moment we were ditching Valentine for Howe, and still three years from the start of the Omar Era. Discouraging that it took nearly a decade from that moment to begin to look forward, and that was only because their lenders forced them to. One of my worries about the Mets finding financial footing again is that they'll waste no time ousting Alderson afterward, and probably make John Franco the new GM. Well, as we learned Saturday, they did start looking forward with the hiring of Baumer. I loved the movie. Spoiler here, but the only bit I wasn't into was all the attention paid to the 20-game win streak. Plus you did have the the "Last Second Victory Against Improbable Odds" when Hatteburg smacks the dramatic homer in the 20th game. It felt kinda like movie pandering to the lowest common denominator baseball fan and it didn't seem all that relevant to the point of the story. But then the next scene is Pitt saying it doesn't mean shit if you don't win the last game of the series, and it only serves to sell some tickets and hot dogs in the meantime, and he really could've been talking about the team or the movie at that point and I loved it. It was like they put that scene in the movie to try and let you think it was important and then took it back and said, 'No it's not. At all.' This was a big part in the book too. And I think it's also a part many "stat-heads" miss sometimes when they trumpet Moneyball as this transcendent moment in baseball. How invested Beane is emotionally, which was the reason he failed as a player. They talk about it near the end when he's talking about romanticizing baseball. I enjoyed the movie, but I guess slightly disappointed probably from the "Never as good as the book" standpoint. I didn't really like the ending. It made it seem like Beane made the wrong choice. The last two little epilogue points: "The Red Sox won the World Series two years later using Beane's philosophy" and then "Beane is still in Oakland trying to win the last game of the series". Hardly true. Even just the offer to Beane is an example of the difference. money. Just look at Damon, who was used as an example of a player not worth what he was being paid. '' On the other hand it's now 2012 and the A's absolutely suck, traded away roughly everyone and haven't been good since they lost their last 'big three' pitcher. They're headed for a 4th place finish and only because the Astros don't show up until next year. I couldn't watch the movie and not wonder how Beane is handling it these days.

Tim looks like a real winner.

Boardwalk Empire's pretty nice. I like the end scene with him washing liquor wash up around him.

I ended up not seeing a ton of movies last year. Not that I was intending on seeing most of the ones on the list of nominees. Did see The Help the other day though. Still haven't seen Moneyball. I should go do that.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: My favorite title sequence is probably the one that opens HBO's True Blood. pretty good. I like Dexter's.

I kinda like this movie even less in retrospect.

I enjoyed it. Thought it was cool that it ended in Muir Woods. Fun place, I broke a mug from there in the microwave once. Didn't realize whatever it was painted with had metal in it. Monkeys, viruses, what's not to love? Very predictable but whatever, most origin movies are predictable. Will watch a sequel.