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Howie Rose just directed the listening audience to "a great website called uniwatch-dot-blog." Way to go, Howie. Next inning, he plans to discover The Google.

="Kong76":1kt578pw]I like to stand in the outfield better than sit in those seats.[/quote:1kt578pw] Me too, but as many times as I send Omar my tryout video, he never calls me back. Maybe I should send it to Adam Rubin instead. Benjamin Grimm Aug 14 2009 05:13 PM ="bmfc1":3sqji2jp]I'd rather see Figueroa get the start than see Livan anymore. Figueroa could be part (I'm not saying he will be) of the '10 Mets. There's no way that Livan will so let's see what Figueroa can do.[/quote:3sqji2jp] I forgot about Figgy. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 05:21 PM I'd like to forget about Nelson too. Someone with hair please make fun of Keith's doo. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 06:41 PM Tidy 6 inning outing out of Parnell. Mets up 2-sniffle entering the home sixth. metsguyinmichigan Aug 14 2009 06:46 PM Guess we should have given Bobby a shot at the rotation sooner! Nice game so far! Uniforms look kinda fun, too. I don't want to see them wear these all or even part-time, but for a weekend they're kinds of neat. Kong76 Aug 14 2009 06:50 PM Barry run, goshdarn I'm glad the Mets didn't fall into that trap of a contract. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 14 2009 07:30 PM That's the way (uh-huh, uh-huh) I like it bmfc1 Aug 14 2009 07:32 PM Wow, that was a nice win. Dare I say it--an easy win. metsguyinmichigan Aug 14 2009 07:33 PM Nice game, Bobby! Tip of the hat and lots of Schaefer! Kong76 Aug 14 2009 07:35 PM Why do night games I go to never end at 9:30? That was sweet, looking forward to tomorrow's big fat pitching matchup! Frayed Knot Aug 14 2009 07:44 PM Yay Us!! MFS62 Aug 14 2009 08:36 PM What were Bobby's pitches hitting on the gun? I didn't see the game. Later DocTee Aug 14 2009 09:10 PM 95 consistently. Even in the sixth. Edgy DC Aug 14 2009 10:30 PM ="Kong76":360a2fc6]Why do night games I go to never end at 9:30?[/quote:360a2fc6] 2:19. Holy crap. Gwreck Aug 14 2009 10:36 PM Great game. Short pitcher's duel, just the way I like it. Think it was the shortest game of the year. The new video boards are working but I couldn't tell you what they're like as I just see the main boards from my seats. No sign of the improvement to the OOT scoreboard yet. Pictures in the concourse are great but they have Nikon logos on them. Couldn't we just honor the Mets without another corporate sponsor or advertisement? Uniforms are possibly the ugliest things I've seen in many a year on the Mets (black jerseys and hats excepted). G-Fafif Aug 14 2009 10:44 PM Hail to the banners. Hail to the '69 and '86 corner displays, miniaturized as they are versus the Shea versions. Hail to the RF video screen which was a big bleeping help. Hail to etching 1969 Mets into the grass. Hail to the blue and orange Cow Parade cow in the Prom food court (part of a salute to Flushing). Hail even to the uni tops that didn't match the uni bottoms because they clothed winners. I didn't see all the Promenade imagery despite looking. I did see my first game from the Pepsi Porch in the company of Met Fairy and DGW along with the man who brings you perhaps the funnest for Met obsessives blog Mets Walk-Offs[/url:25n0jahi]. Got there way early and discovered virtually no line for the Shake Shack, which hence couldn't be resisted. A great night for yours truly and Bobby Parnell. Gwreck Aug 14 2009 11:34 PM ="G-Fafif":38ael5v1]I didn't see all the Promenade imagery despite looking.[/quote:38ael5v1] Above the stairwells. Not exactly prominently placed. G-Fafif Aug 14 2009 11:41 PM Ah, within the seating bowls. I circled the concourses and came up empty. Hell, it's something. Gwreck Aug 15 2009 09:00 AM Nope -- in the concourse. As in, above the entrance to the stairwells. Not at normal eye level. MFS62 Aug 15 2009 09:02 AM ="DocTee":pcp1jqvk]95 consistently. Even in the sixth.[/quote:pcp1jqvk] Thanks, Later. themetfairy Aug 15 2009 12:02 PM I had fun sitting with G-Fafif and dgwphotography at the game, and appreciated Han Solo (and his adorable son) making a trip up to the Pepsi Porch to say hi. The old timey uniforms aren't the Mets' best look. But if they continue to have 2:19 shutouts while wearing them, then they can wear 'em forever. Bobby Parnell - David Wright -

Sure, it's "refreshing" to hear guys like Arroyo come out openly like this, but really, it underlines the whole problem. Professional athletes are mollycoddled their whole lives these days; they have access to the finest facilities, charter planes, luxury hotel suites, meal money, and groupies. Of course they feel a sense of entitlement that they don't have to play by the same rules as the rest of society, or even of their peers.

Can we post a lot more on this thread quickly so the injured testicle discussion goes far, far away? Thanks.

="MFS62":fuhv8nqy]If they found out that Jeter had taken 'roids, MLB would announce that they were only kidding, 'roids have been ok all along. Later[/quote:fuhv8nqy] I actually wouldn't be surprised. How thrilling would it be if Jeter was caught? Oh, that'd be the greatest moment in baseball history. Kong76 Aug 12 2009 06:10 PM GW: He is the absolute last guy I'd ever suspect of juicing <<< I suspect he used to juice Alex before they broke up. metirish Aug 12 2009 06:12 PM I am pretty sure I would watch more baseball if Cappy was caught. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 06:35 PM Let's be clear here. If Derek's test came back positive there would be major investigations... of the testing process. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 12 2009 06:58 PM I just threw up a little bit in my mouth. Long live Capt. MFYDB. MFS62 Aug 12 2009 07:11 PM Maybe if we just ignore him he'd go away. Later metsguyinmichigan Aug 12 2009 07:23 PM ="Edgy DC":1m6ykkgg]Let's be clear here. If Derek's test came back positive there would be major investigations... of the testing process.[/quote:1m6ykkgg] Bad ass! Truth was spoken here! Fman99 Aug 12 2009 07:34 PM Can you get a blood sample from a halo? Frayed Knot Aug 12 2009 07:43 PM I heard some geek on ESPN radio (don't even know who) saying the exact same thing today: 'if Jeter's dirty I'm done with baseball' Two things; 1) Grow the Fuck up!! 2) Most ESPN geeks or similar nationally-oriented sports guys hate baseball anyway and statements like this are just an excuse to either knock the sport or brag about how you're thisclose to giving it up. Latching onto Jeter is an attempt at claiming 'old skool cred' because he's the guy (or so they've been told) who represents a "throwback" [ooh how I hate that term] to when all baseball players were pure and good and never switched teams or made a lot of money so that they can claim to be making a moral judgement against a sport gone wrong. All of which leads us back to: Grow the Fuck Up!! Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 10:16 PM You know, I'm thinking a bit here, and it's not like I have a single figure in front of me, but I'm thinking that --- with his work as a pitchman, with his putting his name on cologne and buttspray, with the sales of futures on his DNA --- Jeter probably makes more lettuce than A-Rod or any other ballplayer when tax time comes around. Edgy DC Aug 13 2009 07:20 AM I was dreaming last night of some rejected names for his fragrance Derek Jeter's NUMBER TWO MASKING AGENT by Derek Jeter I have strange dreams. MFS62 Aug 13 2009 07:36 AM ="Edgy DC":3e4nzejy] -- Jeter probably makes more lettuce than A-Rod or any other ballplayer.[/quote:3e4nzejy] That's good, because we're sure that he's kind to baby bunnies, too. Later LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2009 10:29 AM ="MFS62"]="Edgy DC"] -- Jeter probably makes more lettuce than A-Rod or any other ballplayer. That's good, because we're sure that he's kind to baby bunnies, too. Later Stands to reason. It behooves him to treat them well. More flexible skeletons means that they're superlative at burrowing into tight holes. (Gere joke! YAY! My parents are so proud!) Oh, and "Number 2" shot coffee through my sinuses. bmfc1 Aug 13 2009 11:36 AM Klapsich returns with crap. Honestly, I couldn't get past the first paragraph. http://www.northjersey.com/sports/Yankees_streamrolling_along.html Farmer Ted Aug 13 2009 11:37 AM They immortal. Really. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2009 11:49 AM It's amazing how much Girardi has grown as a manager in this season where they happen to have replaced Mussina and Hughes with Sabathia and Burnett and replaced Giambi with AssholeCopFirstBaseman. "Near-invincibility"? THEY'RE A GOOD TEAM. ON. A FUCKING. HOT STREAK. Edgy DC Aug 13 2009 11:55 AM Walkoff victories, win-the-close-ones cliches aside, are not a sign of a great team. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2009 01:04 PM ="Edgy DC":3vm1pzr0]Walkoff victories, win-the-close-ones cliches aside, are not a sign of a great team.[/quote:3vm1pzr0] They're more a sign of the 2007 Arizona Diamondbacks. Fman99 Aug 13 2009 01:07 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]="MFS62"]="Edgy DC"] -- Jeter probably makes more lettuce than A-Rod or any other ballplayer. That's good, because we're sure that he's kind to baby bunnies, too. Later Stands to reason. It behooves him to treat them well. More flexible skeletons means that they're superlative at burrowing into tight holes. (Gere joke! YAY! My parents are so proud!) Oh, and "Number 2" shot coffee through my sinuses. Beats shooting number 2 through your sinuses, I suppose. metirish Aug 13 2009 01:09 PM I knew Bob would not be outdone , this is hilarious reading...... ] but the Yankees are so hot that, in the words of one talent evaluator, �The only way you�re going to beat them right now is if they�re having an off night Oh I wonder who the talent evaluator is......his son? , his dog? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2009 01:19 PM ="metirish"]I knew Bob would not be outdone , this is hilarious reading...... ] but the Yankees are so hot that, in the words of one talent evaluator, �The only way you�re going to beat them right now is if they�re having an off night Oh I wonder who the talent evaluator is......his son? , his dog? (Psst... it's Gene Michael!)

="RealityChuck":or0liclz]An interesting bit of trivia for that game: Julio Franco played third base. The previous time he had played third base in the majors, his shortstop, Hernandez, hadn't been born.[/quote:or0liclz] That was, of course, for the old Philadelphia Athletics in 1917. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 07:07 AM ="HahnSolo":jfbm6v7s]I'll guess DeFelice behind the plate, Ledee in center, and Michael Tucker at first.[/quote:jfbm6v7s] Again, right guys, wrong positions (Ledee was in LF). 1. Hernandez, ss 2. Chavez, cf 3. Milledge , lf 4. Franco , 3b 5. Tucker , 1b 6. Woodward, 2b 7. Leede, rf 8. DeFelice, c 9. Glavine, lhp Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 07:15 AM ="RealityChuck":27ni9bez]An interesting bit of trivia for that game: Julio Franco played third base. The previous time he had played third base in the majors, his shortstop, Hernandez, hadn't been born.[/quote:27ni9bez] Sort of. He actuallly played a couple of innings a week before that to prep for his coming start. Hernandez played that day also, as it was bench-emptying blowout. I believe the Mets won that September 19 game behind an Anderson Hernandez homer. Gwreck Aug 12 2009 08:34 AM Yes, it was Hernandez' first ML homer. Of course, it wasn't last game they missed (and neither was last night) as Reyes pinch-hit late in the game, as did Wright last night. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:43 AM ="Gwreck"]Yes, it was Hernandez' first ML homer. Of course, it wasn't last game they missed (and neither was last night) as Reyes pinch-hit late in the game, as did Wright last night. Should've read the last game none of them started.

="Fman99":34xtpqxs]2. None of the 2009 Mets have perished in a grease fire.[/quote:34xtpqxs] Yet. Find me a grease fire and I'll push Livan into it. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 08:00 PM fugly early Methead Aug 11 2009 08:02 PM From Kevin Burkhardt via Twitter: "Chances the D-backs score after their leadoff double - 100%" Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 08:02 PM And, once again, a hit is followed by an error and the error is followed by walks. Lucky to get out of that with only one scored. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 08:19 PM On the plus side, y'all... we actually have some pinch-HITTERS on the bench. So, you know, there's that. And this half-bottle of chilled cab that needs drankin'. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 08:25 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":f3va9muy]On the plus side, y'all... we actually have some pinch-HITTERS on the bench. So, you know, there's that. And this half-bottle of chilled cab that needs drankin'.[/quote:f3va9muy] Cheers mate. Gin & 7 up in the 'Cuse. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 08:27 PM Memo to Livan: Try not to take a shit on my Tuesday, thanks. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 08:31 PM This means Montero's getting walked with first base open for the rest of his life, as long as Jerry's managing the Flushers, right? Fman99 Aug 11 2009 08:36 PM Well dang. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 08:38 PM Well, screw it then, I'll say it: I want to see someone hit a home run to the Friday's. I want to see potato skins up in the air, and Jack Daniel's glaze spraying on the level below. I don't even care if it's a D-Back. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 08:44 PM Cora with the two out ribbie. Every time the Mets do that I feel like I just saw a unicorn. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 08:46 PM Alex Cora. Gritty hit. Lofty hit. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 08:50 PM I haven't hated an Australian this much since Crocodile Dundee II. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 08:54 PM That cocky, descended-from-criminals-and-retarded-apes Marmite eater. Also, nice hustle. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 08:57 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3f5pjwf4]That cocky, descended-from-criminals-and-retarded-apes Marmite eater. Also, nice hustle.[/quote:3f5pjwf4] I had to look up "marmite." But now I can use it in a profane manner! Gosh, I'm so clever. That guy can lick Marmite out of my dingo-hole. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 08:59 PM Mmm... yeasty. Is there an Outback here? There's got to be an Outback here, right? Someone hit a home run there, now. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 11 2009 09:01 PM Cory Sullivan: Future mayor of Buffalo LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:07 PM Nice catch on Montero, Hotline. Now learn to throw, and hit, and stuff. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:11 PM And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently? metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 09:12 PM If only we could have back-to-back series with a couple teams well under .500, then we're really kick some butt.....oh, wait. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:12 PM Redding and his big dumb merkin get out of the 6th, or whatever damn inning it is. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:13 PM ="Frayed Knot":m8ly7988]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:m8ly7988] That's one! One right there! I'm almost disappointed, 'cause it'll only encourage him. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:14 PM ="Frayed Knot":28lz9e4s]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:28lz9e4s] Well, I guess this one did work -- so long as we define "working" as rigging it so that the top of the lineup leads off next inning. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:18 PM ="Frayed Knot":3kbs49m6]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:3kbs49m6] What are IWs? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:21 PM FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:23 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded. PHPBB FAIL Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:25 PM ="Fman99":35vnax0b]="Frayed Knot":35vnax0b]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:35vnax0b] What are IWs?[/quote:35vnax0b] Intentional walks. It seems to me that we've been burned by approximately the last 487 of them we've called for. OK my math may be a little off, but it's become almost automatic when a 8th place hitter comes up with men on which suxx because: - we've been giving up far too many hits to pitchers - even when you do get the pitcher out you've still done the other team a favor by clearing that spot for them to start the next inning. It's one thing to do that move selectively. It's another to do it almost as a reflex. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Reed-inspired fail. IWs = IBBs = Intentional walkies! And, yeah, we'll keep doing that, regardless of result. That, and the 5-infielders-with-bases-loaded-after-a-blown-save thing. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 11 2009 09:27 PM Oeltjen Joe DiMaggio Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:33 PM Case in point, instead of having the pitcher lead off here and most likely having this be a 2-out double it's a 1-out double and the odds that we'll get out of this inning unscathed are MUCH lower .. and all because Jerry has no confidence that anyone on the staff can retire the #8 hitter. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM F*ck this guy and his rapist-robber grandpappy. (Can we please stop throwing him fastballs? He can hit the fastball.) Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Oeltjen Joe Cockmaggio Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:34 PM ="Fman99":frrxm28s]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:frrxm28s] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses. Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1r8b1k8t]="Fman99":1r8b1k8t]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] When you gotta hit the satchel, you gotta hit the satchel, Ya know whatta I mean? Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:40 PM OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:43 PM ="Edgy DC":3jhcp9u8]Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.[/quote:3jhcp9u8] I'm just glad he didn't get lost running to third on that. It's been a while, no doubt. Good game from Sully. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Rattlesnake can kill a lion LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:45 PM ="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN! PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again). LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well. Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM Walked leadoff man! metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed. Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

You know, I don't listen to Michael Kay, and I remembered why today -- I flipped to him to get away from Mike Francesa sucking Joe Girardi's dick this afternoon, and stumbled across Don LaGreca saying that "there's no reason why the Mets shouldn't be a playoff-caliber team right now. I mean, they've got their everyday catcher out there in Schneider, they've got their second baseman in Castillo, and they've got David Wright at third base every day." And stopped there. Hey Don, how about the fact that Wright forgot how to hit home runs, Schneider forgot how to hit anything, and THE REST OF THE TEAM SUCKS. (sigh)

="Valadius":39ry25i3]Biggest story of the year, in my opinion, below the boatload of injuries and the Bernazard/Minaya/Rubin fiasco: where the hell did David Wright's power go?[/quote:39ry25i3] It's actually funny that it hasn't been a bigger issue. Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 03:00 PM I wonder if Castillo had ever previously slugged .447 over a month in his life. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 03:04 PM ="Edgy DC":146x4wwv]I wonder if Castillo had ever previously slugged .447 over a month in his life.[/quote:146x4wwv] only his wife? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 03:22 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 03:34 PM Like any redblooded Met fan, I enjoy me a Johan start (with a side of Johan double, preferably). That said, his Schaefer wins have started to feel like the house taking down blackjack hands. ="Ashie62":1bo60rk5]="Edgy DC":1bo60rk5]I wonder if Castillo had ever previously slugged .447 over a month in his life.[/quote:1bo60rk5] only his wife?[/quote:1bo60rk5] Wow. That's pretty repugnant, and-- perhaps worse-- not at all funny or enlightening. G-Fafif Aug 11 2009 03:34 PM ="Edgy DC":2tbev31w]I wonder if Castillo had ever previously slugged .447 over a month in his life.[/quote:2tbev31w] Twice in more or less full months. August 1999: .450 in 27 games. Also struck out 22 times, which he never again matched. May 2008: .472 in 22 games. That was the month of his last three homers. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 04:37 PM "Castillo led the Mets in July with 28 hits, a .368 batting average, a .447 slugging percentage and a .478 OBP, as well as 4 stolen bases. " OK, that's kind of disturbing. Centerfield Aug 11 2009 04:39 PM Wait until August when the slugging title goes to Santana. Nymr83 Aug 11 2009 04:39 PM ="Frayed Knot"]"Castillo led the Mets in July with 28 hits, a .368 batting average, a .447 slugging percentage and a .478 OBP, as well as 4 stolen bases. " OK, that's kind of disturbing. Mostly everything about this season has been disturbing. Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 07:39 PM ="Ashie62":vhq9ah1x]="Edgy DC":vhq9ah1x]I wonder if Castillo had ever previously slugged .447 over a month in his life.[/quote:vhq9ah1x] only his wife?[/quote:vhq9ah1x] Anybody get this?

I can't fathom why the Mets would waste money and at-bats on Mark Grudzielanek.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]He said that farm director Adam Wogin was given Bernazard's responsibilities following the whacking but that ... wait for it ... "the entire hierarchy would be reevaluated after the season." Wait, wait, wait. After the whole Adam Rubin-pining-for-a-job escapade, they replace Bernazard with a guy named "Adam Wogin"?!? That's hilarious.

Interesting that "John Ricco" and "Adam Rubin" have the same number of letters. There's a conspiracy afoot.

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3q7oozb5]A) All else being equal, intentional walks suck as a strategic move.[/quote:3q7oozb5] Them and sac bunts. I'll never understand. Fman99 Aug 10 2009 08:22 PM Eight straight Mets outs. Much like I am about to do, the Mets seem to be laying down. Fman99 Aug 10 2009 08:24 PM ="seawolf17":3oyp9311]="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3oyp9311]A) All else being equal, intentional walks suck as a strategic move.[/quote:3oyp9311] Them and sac bunts. I'll never understand.[/quote:3oyp9311] At least those contain the word "sac." As in, "watching Mets games is like a kick to the sac." Or "satchel," as I have been calling it at work to be polite. This game is paining me in my satchel. Fman99 Aug 10 2009 08:26 PM Fuck Mark Reynolds. Fuck Miguel Montero. Fuck them in their stupid asses. Fman99 Aug 10 2009 08:28 PM Pagan kicking the ball around like A-Rod out there. Missed two cutoff men. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2009 08:31 PM Man in scoring postion... and here's the requisite basehit afterward. I'm not sure that even Art Howe could call Pelf a "battler" with a straight face. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2009 08:35 PM Castillo's gimping again. Frayed Knot Aug 10 2009 08:39 PM It's like every single mistake of any kind this year has led directly to runs. It's bad enough that they've made a ton of them but would it be so bad if we could maybe get away unscathed once or twice? Fman99 Aug 10 2009 08:40 PM Tatis with the 2 RBI double. Good thing Sheff's not in there! (Derp.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 10 2009 08:44 PM Spectacularly nonproductive out by Muffy there. Elster88 Aug 10 2009 08:44 PM Triple for Tatis, replay shows him jogging slowly out of the box. That couldn't have been an inside-the-parker right? Frayed Knot Aug 10 2009 08:49 PM And now this AB - with no one on - the pitcher swings like a 3rd grade girl. Elster88 Aug 10 2009 08:53 PM Wow. I think walking AndyHandy is worse than walking the pitcher. Elster88 Aug 10 2009 09:01 PM Arizona's running the bases well. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 10 2009 09:01 PM Now that was Tatis not hustling. Frayed Knot Aug 10 2009 09:02 PM Oh good, there's another mistake which will come back to bite us. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2009 09:04 PM ="Frayed Knot":4z8fftxw]It's like every single mistake of any kind this year has led directly to runs. It's bad enough that they've made a ton of them but would it be so bad if we could maybe get away unscathed once or twice?[/quote:4z8fftxw] It seems so. The Community Chest pile has dealt a few bank errors in our favor, though-- yesterday's no-touch-a-the-plate call being one. Elster88 Aug 10 2009 09:05 PM They're hitting peas. Elster88 Aug 10 2009 09:07 PM He hit that so hard that with Francoeur's arm Oeltjen might not score if Tatis holds him to a single. Frayed Knot Aug 10 2009 09:10 PM So let's review: - not getting the ball in allows the runner to get to 2nd - if that doesn't happen then there's no need for the IW a batter later - also the subsequent FO to CF doesn't result in a tag to 3rd - and finally, when one more out would allow us to escape unscathed, Pelfrey serves up a 2-out RBI single because there's some kind of fucking law that prevents him from getting an out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2009 09:11 PM As soon as he's in the stretch, he's like a fidgety middle-schooler on a date, trying his first yawn-and-stretch. I'm kind of sick of watching Pelfrey, frankly, and could do without it for a while. Valadius Aug 10 2009 09:11 PM We need a famous Queens native to inspire our intrepid heroes. Frayed Knot Aug 10 2009 09:25 PM It's like Pelfrey has two paths he takes; the innings are either 1-2-3 or he gives up runs. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 10 2009 09:58 PM Nice of Elmer "Hanging Slider" Dessens and Anderson "Badly Timed Jump" Hernandez to each do their best to give Rusty Ryal a hit in his first big-league turn at bat. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 10 2009 10:03 PM Muffy's having a hell of a game. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 10 2009 10:14 PM All this lousy play, then they go and tease us with a tiny rally that ends when Castillo of all people whiffs.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":34yxnp3k]Mustard.[/quote:34yxnp3k] Call him up and stick him at second base. metirish Aug 10 2009 09:16 AM ="seawolf17":11hats6k]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":11hats6k]Mustard.[/quote:11hats6k] Call him up and stick him at second base.[/quote:11hats6k] I bet he'd be hot dogging over there at second.

Ferris is my vote, but I could have easily gone with PTA, because it's fucking awesome, or Sixteen Candles, because I married Molly Ringwald.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Has Castillo been DLed, or is he still stuck between Omar's two pillows? THOSE AREN'T TWO PILLOWS!

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]I mean, hell, if the players are on board, why NOT go apeshit with the experimenting? I don't know that you're getting David over to SS ever, but why not move Murph to second, and bring up Davis (or Thole?) a bit earlier than planned to fill in at 1B? (And if they're not on board... well, isn't his supposed rapport with them counted among Manuel's strengths as a manager?) Because you "can't sell that to fan base that still expects to win." I know that we don't expect that, but the nebulous "Mets fan base" expects to "win every year" or they're going to "go to the movies" instead of coming to the ballpark. I say go for it, though. Seriously. Cut anyone who's not a realistic puzzle piece for next year (Livan, Sheffield, Schneider, Tatis, Dessens, et al) and go young. Bring 'em up and let 'em fuckin' play.

Fuck it. Call 'em all up and let's see what they've got.

="Rockin' Doc":1owguwap]I had a similar thought regarding the number of injuries in the wake of increased steroid testing and penalties. Considering the palliative, anti-inflammatory properties steroids, I don't think it is unreasonable to believe there is some correlation between decreased steroid usage and the number of player days lost to various injuries.[/quote:1owguwap] I completely agree. Edgy DC Aug 06 2009 07:26 AM It used to be believed that steroids were causing all the muscle injuries. Now we're to believe that lack of steroids is doing it? And what's being implied? That Niese, Nieve, Reyes, Pagan and others are off the juice for the first time in their careers? Niese has spent pretty much his whole career in the aggressive testing era. Some of these things we're too close to. And the answers aren't so simple. Remember how many corner outfielders were lost one on top of the other last year? Alou, Pagan, Church, Anderson, Chavez. Bam-bam-bam-bam-bam! We were looking to the likes of Chris Aguila, Trot Nixon, and Andy Phillips to save our bacon. Nixon went down with a groin injury also. Was that all roids or lack of roids? Lee Mazzilli pulled his back turning to talk to somebody on the bench. Heith Hernandez was two pretty good years away from the Hall of Fame, rounded second one day, felt his hammy go, went down like he'd been shot*, and was wasted money the rest of his career. The body is a fragile and mysterious thing and athletes ask a lot of theirs. I'm not saying roids or lack of roids aren't involved, but it sure seems highly speculative. *T. McCarver, 1988. Number 6 Aug 06 2009 10:37 AM ="Edgy DC":1vgavtwu]It used to be believed that steroids were causing all the muscle injuries. Now we're to believe that lack of steroids is doing it?[/quote:1vgavtwu] As far as I can tell, nobody here is insisting this is true. The suggestion wasn't that this is happening, only that it could be. Besides, I don't remember reading anything beyond somebody's similarly wild speculation that steroids caused muscle injuries, and you didn't hear that from my typing fingers, so I'm not sure why you're suggesting that the existence of a contrary perspective weakens my argument. ="Edgy DC":1vgavtwu]And what's being implied? That Niese, Nieve, Reyes, Pagan and others are off the juice for the first time in their careers? Niese has spent pretty much his whole career in the aggressive testing era.[/quote:1vgavtwu] None of that is remotely being implied. I'm saying that steroids can be used regularly or in order to ameliorate injury symptoms on an as-needed basis (or both, of course). And I am not saying anything about any specific player; I'm saying if, as it seems, there are significantly more injuries lasting for a longer time this season, is it possible that the decline in the as-needed application of certain steroids may be part of the reason? ="Edgy DC":1vgavtwu]Some of these things we're too close to. And the answers aren't so simple. Remember how many corner outfielders were lost one on top of the other last year? Alou, Pagan, Church, Anderson, Chavez. Bam-bam-bam-bam-bam! We were looking to the likes of Chris Aguila, Trot Nixon, and Andy Phillips to save our bacon. Nixon went down with a groin injury also. Was that all roids or lack of roids?[/quote:1vgavtwu] I have no idea what role, if any, steroids played in these are any other specific injuries. Nothing in my argument is meant to imply that I do. Injuries have always happened; that hasn't changed. What has changed is how teams and players treat them. When there is a significant increase in the frequency and severity of muscle injuries coinciding with a league crackdown on commonly used substances known to have a restorative effect on muscle tissue, it raises the possibility. Nonetheless, I wouldn't be shocked to find out that there is no correlation whatsoever. ="Edgy DC":1vgavtwu]The body is a fragile and mysterious thing and athletes ask a lot of theirs. I'm not saying roids or lack of roids aren't involved, but it sure seems highly speculative.[/quote:1vgavtwu] I agree. I tried to take pains in my posts to acknowledge that this is wild speculation. I understand that it can't be answered or proven, and it's only one way that the pieces may fit. Edgy DC Aug 06 2009 10:53 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 06 2009 11:23 AM Before investigating what is causing the uptick, shouldn't we start by establishing that there is, in fact, an uptick? Number 6 Aug 06 2009 11:16 AM Here's[/url:1mpj5dye] an article that reports that the injury rate has increased in the past three years. It also includes plenty of similarly wild-assed speculation about why, including the theory about steroids causing injuries that you referenced earlier. I don't doubt Stan Conte's point that it's likely to be due to a number of factors. soupcan Aug 06 2009 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC"]Same trainer as last year. Same trainer maybe but the training staff is minus this guy, Jeff Cavaliere: And he's the one who developed this Now I'm not going to go as far as saying that Cavaliere's absence is the reason for the plethora of leg injuries, but I think it merits some discussion. Oh, and while Cavaliere no longer works for the Mets, he continues to be employed privately by David Wright. Wright, it can be noted, has had no leg issues this year. Edgy DC Aug 06 2009 11:29 AM Wright, it can be noted, joins Reed, Tatis, and Murphy as the only guys to stay standing all year. Murphy strained his hammy at the end of 2008. I don't think it became an issue until the AFL.

G-Fafif wrote: Did Charlie Samuels leave me off the manifest again? No, he read your post about sneaking down to meet MGIM and had you banned.

You're right, it might not have mattered, but isn't a warmup toss or two SOP when the trainer comes out to check on the pitcher for just about any reason?

Plus there's the whole "he's only 25" thing. Hell, guys get hurt; it happens. But he's still getting BETTER. Shut him down and get him ready for 2010. Moving him is asinine, especially considering that you get shit for him coming off an injury. If the Mets trade him in the offseason, then he comes back and has a typical year next year for the Brewers or whoever, then you're the first one bitching about why we traded this guy and complaining why David Fucking Eckstein is our shortstop.

Maybe his mole is soft.