metsmarathon

edgy, you might want to double check your chart. williams comes in at 7 high, not 4. pedro comes in at 22 high, 15 low, not 23/14. i'm sure there are others too. hey, i should cobble together a list!

ooh, death-struggle! cue the vulcan music from star trek!

toss a year lightly at jeff weaver, perhaps?

well, that's it i guess. time to look elsewhere. cleon sez so.

it weirds me out a bunch of times, but i keep on liking it enough for four leg lamps worth. the next vote will break the five-way tie!

yup.

since you mention it... could a andruw jones / lastings milledge / dontrelle willis trade be feasible, or is that just crazy talk?

y'know, one of these days, somebody's gonna post a "[free agent super star] signs" thread that actually has news of [free agent super star] signing an actual contract with an actual major league baseball team, and we're all gonna be thinking that its just some silly thread with pictures and stuff, and nobody's gonna bother opening it, and it'll get no replies, and you'll just be sitting there at your computer thinking "gosh, doesn't anybody care?" and "doesn't anybody like me anymore?" and you wonder why nobody responds to your thread, and this right here will be why. but i still think its funny when people get tricked.

given that our postseason was derailed in part due to an injury incurred in practice, i think that there should be no byes, and no off days either. actually, no. i like the idea of a bye, as it would imply a play-in game or short series for the wild card team. its prolly more change than people are willing to accept in baseball, of course. and more to the point, the benefit of resting your players to heal up all the bumps and bruises, nicks and scrapes, of the regular season would far outweigh any rustiness factor, since you'd have the team practicing still, right?

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i like screwing up the works way more than i like the idea of jeff suppan as a zito consolation. but i'd certainly take him instead of steve trachsel. or, i think, any of the other remaining free agent pitchers. speaking of which, and getting way off track... why arent the mets mentioned as a future home for mark mulder anymore? was there a news story that i missed?

i've always wondered myself just how much of history is distorted in those young guns movies.... the movies themselves were fairly entertaining, though certainly not great movies.

the nintendo wii claims yet another victim!

i'd be pretty ticket off if i were a pro athlete, and my agent's office had been tossing documents with my identity into the trash without shedding them first.

see, i think i like what bp does here. a hitter is a hitter is a hitter - it doesn't matter (much) whether he plays first base, or second base, or centerfield (catcher might be an exception) - you're still going to have the same offensive skills, and for the most part, production. the difference is that if you take keith hernandez, and put him at shortstop, he's going to contribute to far fewer defensive outs and likely more errors, and therefore, he will have a far lower fielding runs above replacement. there need be no offensive correction, since the difference is seen in the defense. as far as how bad a defensive shortstop is a replacement shortstop, i have no idea - its a bit muddy on the bp website as far as figuring that stuff out. i think its in the book, and i have an old one, but have not a darned clue as to where it is. might even be hiding in my mom's house!

WARP is for a given season. WARP2 is weighted for all time, and theoretically lets you compare honus wagner to rey ordonez. WARP3 factors in the difference between season lengths. so in the case of a strike-shortened season, you can compare performance against a full-length season, or against a 154-game schedule.

the substitute player, in all cases, is not the next man on the roster, but rather a generic Joe Scrub - the monstrously huge bat boy of the baseball world. i think the problem with BP's fielding runs is that it places a heavy weighting on range factor, measuring more how many times a ball is hit to a player more than his innate ability in fielding balls hit near him. and for catchers, stolen base percentage is weighted high, too.

julio franco would play santa, but he's too old.

piniero could be interesting, no?

but then, if that were the case, you wouldn't have signed him to be your agent. if you were all about the dollar, then you would.

sharpie wrote: It occurs to me that with Oliver and Cliff Floyd gone and Milledge possibly on the trading block, there might be no African-American Mets next year. that's why if we trade lastings, it should be for dontrelle.

the problem most likely stems from the fact that the server (a prior home of the CPF) upon which all of the original discussions were conducted, went poof a while back, leaving some threads whole, some threads wholly lost into the ether, and other threads incomplete.and there's, i don't think, any good way to tell the difference.ordinarily, the history of the discussions in the thread would lead one to arrive at the consensus ranking for a given year. but that doesn't seem to be the case here, does it!i blame edgy. edgy suxxx!!!! lets redo the whole project!

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SteveJRogers wrote: No, it really doesn't. The proliferation is more a byproduct of the information age. i'm not sure how much more the internet could proliferate right now. there are cows in kansas with their own myspace pages. well, i actually haven't checked that, but i wouldn't be terribly surprised. i would surmise that the number of households with access to the internet either at home or at work has pretty much plateaued for a while, and is likely to be tracking closely to the rate of population increase, as there really aren't all too many people off the grid anymore. ]The stigma of it is gone, but does that say much? There could be just as many people who sign up for a league and either never make a move after the first month or so or only make transactions based on knowledge of the player. "Yeah I'll give you Fransico Liriano for Mark Mulder straight up" this sounds like something that could be discerned, perhaps in a sorta-scientific poll. and if they sign back up the next time around, i would surmise that they are still sufficiently interested in baseball to risk anonymous humiliation at the hands of perfect strangers. also, the proliferation issue cuts both ways. increased proliferation of internet means increased proliferation of alternate sources of entertainment, casual games for instance, that would be perhaps more enticing to Joey Sixes if he really weren't all too into baseball. yet in the face of this torrent of distracting media, he still makes the effort to sign up and play for a trophy that isn't even there. that has to count for something. and of course, its all fairly quantifiable. how many people sign up for fantasy baseball? how many are new to it? how may people don't pay attention, either to their teams or their transactions? how many of them quit after a year? how many come back? how many pay more attention to baseball as a result? how many pay less?

SteveJRogers wrote: ="Yancy Street Gang"]Ted, if it helps any I had never heard of Harden either. Twenty years ago I knew who every player was. Since 1994, I only follow the Mets and I'm not embarrassed to admit to my lack of knowledge of other teams. I'll know all about Harden if he becomes a Met. And if he doesn't, he simply doesn't matter to me. I REST my case! And no, baseball is not dying because the proprietor of UMDB has no idea who one of the best young arms in the AL is. Maybe it's a different argument alltogether I don't know, that sports has lost any sense of "mistique" about them that the true passion of following the entire league is gone for many. But can I at least say the interest in baseball is starkly different than it has been in the past? Maybe it's not on a respirator or anything, but it's just not the same "sport." And no, that's not "waxing nostalgic" for something that really wasn't there to begin with, but maybe just too much "real life" has entered the main stream discussion of baseball. Maybe that's what should have been my argument = if you ever do figure out what your argument is, maybe its that you think sport in general is doomed to suffocate from the weight of its own success. perhaps refine that to read professional sport as big ticket mainstream avenues of entertainment.