You ever hear a Yanqui fan try to define "true Yankee"? They, of course, can't, because the only real standard - no matter how much they want to pretend otherwise - is: - you were good and we liked you, then you are - you sucked and we didn't like you, then you aren't They can't limit it to only organization guys because that would eliminate the likes of O'Neill, Tino, Brosius, et al --- and they can't limit it to only those from WS teams (much as they want to) because that would bar Mattingly from the club So they usually come up with an either/or definition which allows both groups in but creates comical outcomes like Chad Curtis is, but Dave Winfield and his 10 years of HoF-caliber play isn't.