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So weird to see someone start two IGT's in a row.

Jeff just swung by to do a little Terry Cashman, according to Adam Rubin. Q: Did you express confidence? JW: "I came to talk baseball with them and hear what they want to do and how they want to get this moving in the right direction." whew. I saw this thread pop up and I thought "yikes, they fired him during the game!" How funny would that be? "Oh my goodness John, is that Bobby Valentine in the owner's box? OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!!!! OF ALL THE DRAMATIC THINGS!!!!!!!!"

What we need is a good fight song. What would Rage Against the Machine think of the Braves and their insensitive use of Native Americans as a mascot? Or we could rise up against those that seek to keep us down! Or better yet, focus on perseverance. We WILL hold on damnit! On Edit: Admins! Help!

Any word on Niese for those of us not near a TV?

And hopefully lefties too.

Edgy DC wrote: I've got nothing against his personality. I've got everything against his bullpen usage and his bunting. Exactly. To clarify my post earlier, when I say "questionable", I mean "really, really bad".

Yeah, nice try "I know everything about the Mets I even created a website" guy. You don't get in either.

I seem to be in the minority here, and perhaps the bad taste of Willie Randolph is still to fresh, but I really like Jerry Manuel. I think he's personable, funny, and it really seems like he has a great relationship with his players while also maintaining their respect. I like that he's not some idiot out there arguing every call, but that he brings the fight when he feels wronged. I think he's a great mixture of calm and fire. Personality wise, I think he's better suited for the managerial position than even Bobby Valentine. I just don't think he's very smart. His in-game decisions are questionable, his love of bunting is driving me nutty, and I don't understand why the team played such bad fundamental baseball last year (though this year, they are much, much better). I am all for replacing Jerry with Bobby Valentine, because I think he is the best overall fit for the Mets. (You give away some "personable" but you get a lot more "smart" and "interesting".) But if it's going to be some of these other hacks, I'd just as soon keep Jerry.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Centerfield wrote: This is fucked up. As if the talentless posters here didn't feel bad enough before this guy joined. More and more this is becoming a hostile posting environment for us normal people. We must redouble our dick-joke-making efforts! And then redouble those redoubled efforts! Exactly. Then we'll have three times the number of dick jokes!

Whatever marathon lady. When Leiter and I form the NTF (Non-Talented Forum) don't think you and your running-ish friends will be allowed.

This is fucked up. As if the talentless posters here didn't feel bad enough before this guy joined. More and more this is becoming a hostile posting environment for us normal people.

Especially since he's not hot that often. With an OPS of .688, you'd have to think he's going to bounce back a little since he's usually in the mid .700's. As it is now, Francoeur ranks 28th out of 39 outfielders who qualify. He is 11th out 13 rightfielders. If you are assessing trades, he is worse than Ryan Church (.759) but he's better than Lastings Milledge (.612) so it's a net gain at the end of the day. Of course, all three still suck. But it's not all gloom and doom. These guys suck even worse than Francoeur: Carlos Lee, Hunter Pence, Nate McClouth, Cameron Maybin, Mark DeRosa. The worst outfielder in the National League? Melky Cabrera (OPS .517)* *Ok, so technically Chris Coghlan is worse at .496, but Melky is a former MFY, now a Brave, so that makes him worse.

You guys are being unfair to Charlie Manuel. What Charlie said: "We're not going to let a guy stand up there in the bullpen with binoculars looking in. We're smarter than that." What the picture shows: Do you see anyone standing? Didn't think so. Charlie will take your apologies now.

Beltran is being pretty candid there. Up until now, the company line is that Beltran did not need, and was not a candidate for micro-fracture surgery, despite all of the evidence pointing to the contrary. It seems pretty clear that it was all bullshit now. Given this, it's hard to understand the team's handling of this injury. First of all, the bone bruises came about because of the lack of cartilage. There was no collision, no freak play, no other impetus other than day-to-day wear and tear that caused the injury. Resting is fine, but it was silly not to think that the bone bruises would not return when he began playing again. If up to me, I would have had this surgery last season and had a clean bill of health for 2010. They did not. Instead, they brought him back to play in meaningless games. The only rational reason for this would be to see how he reacted once the bone bruises healed (i.e., would they come back?). He played, the bone bruises returned. He had to shut it down. At that point, having seen the bone bruises develop in the first place because of lack of cartilage, resting only to have them come back again (because there is still no cartilage), it is foolish not to have the micro-fracture surgery at that time. Beltran complained of it during fall. Micro-fracture would have sidelined him for a part of 2010, but he might have been healthy enough to return with a clean bill of health for the second half. Again, they opted against the surgery. Now, it appears that the delay in his return is not necessarily surgery related, but that the bone bruises have not yet healed (from last fall). He says he is healthy, and running pain free, but it's hard not to believe that they won't reappear once he starts going full throttle. (I'm happy to be proven wrong here, but it seems inevitable to me). My guess is that he comes back around the All-Star break, shuts it down again in August or September, and then ultimately opts for micro-fracture surgery. I just hope this happens in time to salvage some part of 2011.

Pain free supposedly. The full article is on Newsday, but I can't read it because they're a bunch of douchebags and want to charge you.

Gamecast has an (S) next to GMJ's name. I think it stands for "Sucks".

Ok. It's not funny anymore. Retire the fucking pitcher.

Well, at least we cleared 3, 4, and 5 so we have a chance next inning.

GameCast says Pagan swung at ball 4.

All RBI's in this game belong to pitchers.

Amazing.

Wow, Jermaine Allensworth really was a bad guess.

And to clarify what is implied, all others are not good guesses. Terrible, in fact.

Jermaine Allensworth