Centerfield

Does that mean the question is off the board? It's Lasorda right?

What's with the killing of the moms? My wife and I caught this on TV one night and thought "Oh maybe we should get this for the boy." Quickly nixed it after the violent death of Mama Dino.

"Cookie Robots, not Boogie Robots. Why are you so old?"

I think it's more than a little absurd to invoke the work of a great Civil Rights Leader when discussing ownership of a baseball franchise. There are plenty of injustices left in this world. Let's not make this out to be more than what it is, which is a bunch of rich guys trying to make more money.

I can't believe we gave up Mulvey.

No doubt about that. But if a fear of offending the other side prevents you from beginning negotiations, then not a lot of business would get done.

Edgy DC wrote: Centerfield wrote: 10 per year, 3 years. I wish that could get it done. But I think that's the offer that gets us an unhappy shorstop. I imagine he's going to be asking for something more like six and $108 million. I'd be surprised if we could get him for six and 90. Seriously? The guy has posted an OPS over .800 only twice, is coming off a down year, and was injured for the majority of the prior year. Do you really think he's going to be asking for 6 years, 18 per? I guess if he does that, then you have to walk. But I'd at least start the conversation.

Edgy DC wrote: I was just trying to clarify the last phrase of your previous post, wich you did, but Alderson's stated clearly that he's waiting until spring to get an offer on the table, not until fall. Oh did he? I didn't know that. Good for Sandy then. Lock him up in Florida.

10 per year, 3 years.

Are you talking to me or Edgy? I don't think the forum has a consensus. Some want him locked up now, I see some want to wait. I don't agree with Sandy's wait and see philosophy. I think he should be at the table now.

The current thinking appears to be that Sandy wants to wait and see how he does this season before having any discussions. Certainly he's not talking to him now. I think he should try now. Get an idea of what he wants, float what we think is reasonable out there. If you're worlds apart, you can shelf it, but it's worth a shot. Reyes's value is low, but I still think he's our best option at shortstop. Which means it's a great opportunity to buy low.

And that is largely my point. Even if he has just an ok 2011, his value will rise simply by the threat the Philadelphia (or any other team) will come in and swoop him away. And if he walks, there is such a paucity of viable options. I don't want Rollins, and Jeter, unfortunately, will be unavailable. I realize it's a gamble, but I don't see it as one where the odds favor our current thinking.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Centerfield wrote: Can I ask a simple question here? Why does Alderson need to see how he plays this season to get a good look at him? Does he not have access to game tapes? Is SNY blocked in his neighborhood for some reason? I mean, if he needs me to compile his stats and put together a little video montage, I'm happy to do so. Don't forget to include the highlight reels of Wilson Delgado and Alex Cora, and be sure to highlight that OBP from last year too. That's fine. Those things should absolutely be part of the equation, which is why it makes sense to talk to him now. Take that into account, make him an offer that reflects his performance these past few years, the years before those, and what you reasonably expect from him in the future. If Jose rejects it, then it's on him. But at least you try. Taking the stance that you want to wait until next year, in my opinion, is not worth the gamble. Like I said before, it seems far more likely that you will end up paying more. The notion that Sandy needs to watch him play in person (and I don't think he actually said this, but it's been used as a justification by others for the wait and see approach) makes no sense. That logic is almost Omarian.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I hope he leaves that red glove in Houston. Boy the Astros really lost their way with that whole brick-colored scheme. They have got to bring back the spacesuit orange. I agree. Florescent orange with camouflage.

Can I ask a simple question here? Why does Alderson need to see how he plays this season to get a good look at him? Does he not have access to game tapes? Is SNY blocked in his neighborhood for some reason? I mean, if he needs me to compile his stats and put together a little video montage, I'm happy to do so.

This is stupid. Sign an extension now when his value is not great. Sure, in the worst case scenario, you may dodge a bullet if he tanks this year, but barring an unmitigated disaster, there is little to gain. The scenarios as I see them are: 1. If he has a great year, you end up paying more. Lots more. 2. If he has a so-so year, you still have to bring him back (there are no other real options, within the organization, or via free agency) but then you pay more because other teams are in the mix. 3. If he has a bad year, you may be able to save some money, but you have to bank on the fact that no team will pony up the cash and gamble that he returns to form. In other words, you might save money, but you might not. 4. If he has a bad year, and suffers some sort of injury that will affect the rest of his career, you've dodged a bullet. To me, scenarios 3 and 4 are not enough to offset 1 and 2, which I feel, are more likely to happen anyway. Plus he's a home-grown player. Sandy should be talking to him right now.

Edgy DC wrote: Centerfield wrote: None of the sequels to The Karate Kid actually happened. You can't make me believe otherwise. I disagree with your plan to annihilate KK2 from existence. There's some real good stuff there. Somewhere in the archives are my thoughts on the movie. Awful film. So bad, it detracted from the first movie.

I wish I had more confidence in Young, but I get the feeling he's not going to be very good. He missed the season that was supposed to be his bounce back season. Kind of mysterious shoulder injuries and decreased velocity...not good signs. I'd love if he were to work out, but I'm not that optimistic.

None of the sequels to The Karate Kid actually happened. You can't make me believe otherwise.

Rickey?

I have no expectations for DJ Carrasco. I don't even know who he is.

Ordonez.

My daughter is a nine-year-old girl. Her friends are nine-year-old girls. The kids on the softball team I managed last spring were also in that age group. I'm at a stage of my life where I'm very familiar with nine-year-old girls, and it makes it very easy for me to imagine what that poor kid was like. How anyone could shoot a bullet at a nine-year-old girl is unimaginable. Well said. Check out Joe Posnanski: http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/01/katie-prefect.html I had to turn off my phone for a minute, because I'm sitting here on the edge of tears. That story is why you have kids; there's nothing like those moments. I need to go take a walk for a minute. It's an amazing thing, being a parent.

Big hit in my house.

Things like this make me question the "no cruel or unusual punishment" bit. Guys like this should be kept alive as long as possible and viciously tortured for 12 hours every day.