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  1. I read this wrong and thought that the majority guy was also from the 21st century. Reading is important.
  2. BTW, $92.5 million on the Naylor deal. So $18.5M AAV. I think this doesn't really say anything about the market for Alonso.
  3. David Herbert Aloysius Wright
  4. Willie Mays looked great for 156 years old! I'll start with Moises Alou.
  5. It's hard to know what, if anything, Naylor's deal means for Alonso. Especially since we don't know the terms yet. Other than the position they play, Naylor is really different than Alonso. He's a different kind of hitter. Higher average, better contact, but much less power. A lesser hitter overall. But he's 2 and a half years younger, a better defender, and a better base stealer. My guess is that Naylor gets less AAV, more years. Pete gets more AAV, less years.
  6. Josh Naylor off the board. Goes back to Seattle on a five year deal. I didn’t like Naylor as an option. And that takes Seattle out of the Pete sweepstakes. So I think good result all around. Naylor is 2 years younger than Pete. So 5 year deal makes sense.
  7. I don't understand the underappreciation of Jeff McNeil. Even with his bad September, his final OPS puts him like top 6 or 7 among 2B in the league. His defense is average. His contract is reasonable. I see no reason not to keep McNeil until someone forces their way into the lineup.
  8. Funny. I’m in completely the opposite camp. It seems like closers tend to age better than other players. Mariano. Hoffman. Wagner. These guys stayed dominant even late in their careers. Aroldis Chapman was amazing at 37 years old. Kenley Jansen. Rasiel Iglesias. All still good. I’m good with 5 years. Maybe try to give him less money on the back end.
  9. Why make millions legally when you have a chance to make the thousands illegally
  10. This is the regime that allowed ads on uniforms and the ridiculous ad on the post season helmets. They were never going to be disciplined enough to turn down the riches of legalized betting.
  11. How much can they be paid that this is worthwhile? Craziness.
  12. Yeah, I don't think it's realistic to say that the Mets have set themselves up to be at the top of any standings considering they just finished with 83 wins and missed a 6 team playoff. I get that the farm system looks good, but lots of #1 ranked systems have failed to materialize into wins and certainly championships. The good news is, you don't have to be at the top of the standings. You just need to be near the top. And I think the Mets are well-positioned to be in playoff chases for years with the core they have in place, and the young guys coming of age. Trading a bunch of them for Skubal certainly makes them more likely to make the playoffs this year, and provided he's healthy in October, probably improves their chances of advancing, arguably more than any other player available? Is that worth giving up a bunch of guys who can provide value for 5-6 years? Probably not. It depends on the package, but considering the type of haul it would take to land Skubal, I'd probably think it was too much.
  13. 1. Closer: TBD 2. LHRP: AJ Minter 3. LHRP: Brooks Raley 4. [CROSSOUT]RHRP: Drew Smith[/CROSSOUT] 5. RHRP: Huascar Brazoban 6. RHRP: Adbert Alzolay 7. RHRP: Dylan Ross
  14. In Phillips' defense, I think his tenure as GM was during a time that it was much harder to make the playoffs. If a team had the makings of a solid core, and could amass a win total in the high 80s, it made sense to go all in and get yourself a low 90s team that could make the playoffs. Not to say you can justify all of his trades, but it made more sense at the time. Now, with 6 teams making the playoffs (and more rounds consequently), I think it makes much more sense to simply try to make it every year, instead of pushing your chips in for one playoff run. And I realize this doesn't justify the trade proposal he just made, but you know, old dog, new tricks. I hate trades when it comes to the Mets. I'm notoriously bad at being objective and judging them. But to me, this feels like a lot to give up for Skubal. I also feel that this might be what it takes to get Skubal. Which I guess leaves me in the "it's not happening" camp. A lot has been made of the Mets needing to get an "ace" level pitcher. And lots of talking heads are going with the assumption that this is something Stearns and Cohen will be pursing. But I'm not so sure. They might, who knows, but Stearns doesn't seem the type to suddenly change his philosophy drastically following one disastrous season.
  15. One note. Though the article projects the Mets at $265M, with projected arbitration, the Mets actual page projects them at $247M. That give them a little more room to work with. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/new-york-mets/overview I think this type of offseason (not necessarily the names listed, but guys like them) could be a perfectly fine off-season. And puts the Mets right back as playoff contenders. But it doesn't move the needle, and the Mets are likely fighting for a WC spot again. I have a feeling Stearns and Cohen are aiming higher.
  16. Of the top 25 OPS leaders in 2025, 10 of those players were in the 31-35 age range FK mentions. 1. Aaron Judge (33) 3. George Springer (35) 5. Kyle Schwarber (33) 7. Ketel Marte (31) 9. Byron Buxton (31) 11. Freddie Freeman (35) 13. Jose Ramirez (32) 18. Matt Olson (31) 19. Yandy Diaz (33) 22. Bryce Harper (32) So clearly, there is precedent for Pete staying productive for at least a few more years. On the other hand, in this article chronicling the worst contracts on the books for 2025, we see a lot of guys in that age range. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10144883-ranking-the-10-worst-mlb-contracts-on-the-books-for-2025-season Anthony Rendon. Fell off a cliff after age 29. Nick Castellanos. Regressing since age 31 DJ Lemahieu. Aged suddenly after age 31 Andrew Benitendi. Somehow washed up at age 28 Trevor Story. Plummeted after age 28 Xander Bogaerts. Declined after age 30. Javier Baez. Declined after age 28 Kris Bryant. Done after age 29 If you look at these names, it makes it seem like Pete may be on borrowed time already. Interestingly, the article mentions these five guys, who all bounced back to varying degrees of success in 2025. Christian Yelich George Springer Giancarlo Stanton Trevor Story Mike Trout
  17. I think money has to be of some concern. Let's say we are $265M, and we re-sign Pete and Diaz at $50M collectively. That gets us to $315MM. From my list above: 1. A starting pitcher. (ace level or just below) $30M 2. Another starting pitcher $15M 3. A RH DH $20M 4. A centerfielder 10M? 5. An eighth inning reliever $10M 6. A mid-leverage reliever $7M Total additions: $92M Total Payroll: $407M Do you see Cohen going over $400M in payroll? I don't think that's realistic.
  18. I liked what I saw of Christian Scott in 2024. I thought he pitched better than his numbers, but I just looked at the numbers and they weren't particularly good. He pitched better when he first came up in May than he did the second go round in July. But maybe he was already hurt in July? I see upside. Rooting for him.
  19. Spotrac has it's team summaries out for this winter. The Mets preview is here: https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/3021/new-york-mets-offseason-preview The big takeaway: That figure includes projections on all arbitration eligible players. That number might go down a little if the Mets decide to non-tender some guys, but it won't be significantly different. If you assume payroll stays around the same level, that leaves about $80 Million to rebuild the club. If they resign Pete ($30M) and Diaz ($20M), that leaves you about $30M. So with $30M, can you find: 1. A starting pitcher. (ace level or just below) 2. Another starting pitcher 3. A RH DH 4. A centerfielder 5. An eighth inning reliever 6. A mid-leverage reliever I don't know. It seems like a tall order.
  20. For me it was Torrens. Without thinking too much: Good: Torrens Baty Taylor Lindor (but not as good as we expect) Acuna Bad: Alonso Soto Vientos Nimmo Mullins OK: McNeil Alvarez Mauricio
  21. Keith Hernandez was on Jon Heyman and Joel Sherman's podcast. According to Keith (very scientific), Pete is most similar to Harmon Killebrew. Killebrew is a better hitter overall than Pete. So I'm not sure Keith's eye-test would pass any real level of scrutiny. But you can't argue against his longevity. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/killeha01.shtml Stayed square in his prime through his age 34 season (.957 OPS, 41 HR). Was good through age 36. (.850 OPS, then .817 OPS). Fell off a cliff at age 37.
  22. One of the most troubling parts of the 2025 season is the inexplicable poor performance from Sean Manaea. For me, I assumed he wasn't healthy. But to hear the loose bodies weren't bothering him, and that he's contemplating not getting the surgery (which to me makes no sense, but that's another story) and that he just pitched badly is alarming. Here's a guy who was slotted to be either our 1 or 2, and he ended up unpitchable at the end of the season. I don't know how to look up pitching metrics, but I'd be curious to see how his stuff compares to last year. Spin rate, swing and miss rate, etc. It certainly seemed like his velocity was down. Sean's not young. 33 years old. Maybe he just declined in one year? I can't remember the last time the Mets had a guy slotted to be their 1/2, who ended up pitching so poorly you could no longer start him. And to add to the craziness, this not only happened with Manaea, but also Peterson and Senga. All three were projected to lead the rotation, all three cratered, and pitched the worst baseball of their lives. How is that possible? I know Hefner is gone. And maybe that's part of the solution. But one of the things the Mets will have to figure out this offseason is why Manaea, Peterson, Senga, and to a lesser extent Helsley, Montas, and Garrett, pitched some of the worst baseball of their careers.
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