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The fact that this lineup scored three runs was a miracle unto itself. Ugh! Later

Another runner (walk?) was on base and scored before Joe passed the runner. That run counted. Joe's was the first hit. Since that time, MLB has gone back and changed the rules on what is/ isn't a no-hitter or perfect game. I'm not sure how they consider the Haddix game. Check out how it was scored. B'sides, that happened before 1965. Later

A ribbie double for F(ranchise) Martinez.* Later * = don't blame me for that one. He was called that by the Buffalo radio guys earlier this year.

="Swan Swan H":2qvgvism]Are you referring to Johnny Lewis breaking up Maloney's no-hitter?[/quote:2qvgvism] Yes! You may select a kewpie doll off the top shelf for your prize. As far as I can tell, it was the only time in ML history that an extra inning home run broke up a no-hitter. Joe Adcock had hit one in the 13th inning to break up Harvey Haddix' perfect game, but he passed another baserunner and was oficially credited with a double. Later Swan Swan H May 30 2009 01:10 PM MFS62 on the job. Edgy DC May 30 2009 01:31 PM ="MFS62":2jqu92fz]="Swan Swan H":2jqu92fz]Are you referring to Johnny Lewis breaking up Maloney's no-hitter?[/quote:2jqu92fz] Yes! You may select a kewpie doll off the top shelf for your prize. As far as I can tell, it was the only time in ML history that an extra inning home run broke up a no-hitter. Joe Adcock had hit one in the 13th inning to break up Harvey Haddix' perfect game, but he passed another baserunner and was oficially credited with a double. Later[/quote:2jqu92fz] If it was still a perfect game, he couldn't have passed a runner. MFS62 May 30 2009 01:37 PM Another runner (walk?) was on base and scored before Joe passed the runner. That run counted. Joe's was the first hit. Since that time, MLB has gone back and changed the rules on what is/ isn't a no-hitter or perfect game. I'm not sure how they consider the Haddix game. Check out how it was scored. B'sides, that happened before 1965. Later Frayed Knot May 30 2009 02:14 PM The perfect game was broken up due to an infield throwing error - runner went to 2nd The Pirates then intentionally walked Aaron to get to Adcock (Nice alphabetical lineup there) and set up a force Adcock then HR'd for the Braves' first and last hit - although it was apparently unclear to some as to whether the ball went over the fence. Aaron apparently thought not and simply peeled off the basepath between 2nd & 3rd when he saw the winning run touch home. Adcock was declared out for passing him as rounded the bases. Final score: 1-0 Haddix does NOT get credit for either a perfect game or no-hitter by current rules. seawolf17 May 30 2009 06:17 PM If you're a baseball fan, you should buy this album. May 26, 1959 in Milwaukee on the mound. Harvey Haddix of the Pirates was mowing �em down. 27 up, 27 gone. Nine innings in the book and not a man had gotten on. Now, in history only 17 have thrown a perfect game. A most exclusive club and a most exalted fame. But after nine the Pirates hadn�t scored. A perfect game and still old Harvey had to pitch some more. David Wells, David Cone, Sandy Koufax, Cy Young, Jim Bunning, Tom Browning, Charlie Robertson. Don Larsen in the series in 1956. Why don�t we add old Harvey to that list? 10th inning down, 11th inning down, he moved on to the 12th. Three straight outs and the fans were pinching themselves. The best game ever pitched and still a scoreless tie! Poor Harvey had to carry on and give it one more try. Thirteen�s never lucky so you can guess the rest. Harv gave up a hit and then he lost the whole contest. I wonder how he slept that night knowing how close he came to a most exclusive club that should include his name. David Wells, David Cone, Randy Johnson, Addie Joss, Kenny Rogers, Mike Witt, Dennis Martinez. Don Larsen in the series in 1956. Why don�t we add old Harvey to that list? The search for perfection is a funny thing, at least as I�ve been told. It drives you nuts, it makes you curse and eats away at your soul. Sometimes better isn�t better, sometimes justice just ain�t served. Sometimes legend isn�t laid where it�s most deserved. But humanity is flawed as the losers will attest. We�re drawn to tragic stories, the ones that suit us best. But for 12 innings on that fateful day, old Harvey was a God. A perfect game if nothing else because perfection�s always flawed. David Wells, David Cone, Lee Richmond, Monte Ward. Len Barker against the Jays and Catfish for the A�s. Don Larsen in the series in 1956. Why don�t we add old Harvey to that list? David Wells, David Cone, Sandy Koufax, Cy Young, Jim Bunning, Tom Browning, Charlie Robertson. Don Larsen in the series in 1956. Why don�t we add old Harvey to that list? Frayed Knot Jun 03 2009 11:08 AM That Haddix game btw (as noted in that song's lyrics) was 50 years ago last week and so SI ran an article on it in their recent edition. The 13th inning started with an infield error. Braves then had [u:2f3ag2k4]Eddie Mathews[/u:2f3ag2k4]! bunt the runner over. Aaron was IW'd. Adcock then HR'd but touched 3rd before Aaron did and therefore was declared out and only one run scored. Several future Mets were involved: - starting with Haddix himself, he coached for a brief time - Felix Mantilla hit the bouncer that Pitt 3B Don Hoak threw away for an error - Joe Christopher was the RF who watched Joe Adcock's HR sail over his head

Hint: it was an outfielder. Later

You beat me to the post, FK. I was thinking of this while driving to work today. I can't remember many, if any, ballplayer hip surgeries like this string. In the days of artificial turf, from the pounding on the legs and body, I would have thought it would have been more possible. But now? I dunno. Later

A player on the 1965 Mets did something in a game that has not been done since. And as far as I can research, had never been done before. Name the player and what he did. Later

Swan Swan H wrote: Carlin sez Heyman sez the Mets and White Sox in talks regarding a 'RH Catcher.' Who they got that we want? Dye? Konerko? Just a thought. Later

Hahn, I had heard speculation of Castro to Seattle for ??? One of the radio shows a few days ago - forget which. Could have been just a fan's mental gymnastics, so I'm taking it with more than one grain of salt. Later

When he hit the reporter, did he run it out? Seriously, I hope she's ok by now. Later

Speaking of injuries (and other stuff) Omar Minaya was on WFAN this morning, and said he hopes to see Carlos Beltran back in the lineup either tonight or this weekend. To listen to the full interview, go to WFAN.com. Minaya also said Jose Reyes will remain with the team this weekend, he will then go to Florida to play in a few minor-league rehab games. Late next week, Minaya hopes to get Reyes and Alex Cora back, �which will help stabilize things a bit.� The team will continue to be �conservative with Reyes, Minaya explained, because the team will need him if it plans to win a Championship. Lastly, he said, �Billy Wagner is coming along good,� and Minaya believes there is a good chance Wagner pitches for the Mets in September, meaning the team could have Wagner, J.J. Putz, Bobby Parnell and Francisco Rodriguez in the bullpen during the stretch run. To listen to the full 25�minute interview, during which Minaya also talks about how he acquired Gary Sheffield, Oliver Perez�s rehab, and the development and hustle of Fernando Martinez, go to WFAN.com. http://www.wfan.com/ -- (by way of Metsblog) Later

Mauer's success wouldn't come as a surprise to Bill James. Many years ago, James stated that major league hitters reach their power potential around the age of 26-28. He said (I paraphrase from memory) that by that age, hitters understand how pitchers have been getting them out, learn what pitches (and locations) they can drive for power, and have the discipline to look for those pitches. Later

She grew up in a project in the Bronx. Now she's nominated for the Supreme Court. I'll give her a bye on any Yankee leanings. Later

All I can say to that is "Amen!". It was the first time I ever heard Joe Morgan say anythiing with which I agreed when he challenged Phillips. I was hoping Joe would have asked "Steve. So how's your old secretary doing these days?" Later

So, what this all boils down to is, Yankee Stadium, the place that Yankee fans consider to be the "temple of baseball" - is now a joke. Just like the names they used to call Shea. And there's no way they can spin it. I'm lovin' every minute of this. Later

="Frayed Knot":8fjosmmd]Single season record = 303, Coors Field, 1999 And that one was at a mile high, pre-humidor, and in the midst of the steroid era. Current pace at YSIII = 309[/quote:8fjosmmd] If Jeter hits the one that breaks the record, will it be considered a good thing or a bad thing? By us? By MLB? By Jon Sterling? By Yankee fans in general? Later Frayed Knot May 24 2009 11:58 AM Maybe it's time for John Sterling to update his home-run call: It's not high ... It's not far ... But it's gone anyway!!! Frayed Knot May 24 2009 02:49 PM Teixeira today with a broken bat. Not a cracked bat mind you but one that shattered in his hands leaving him only with a small piece of the handle while the barrel and splinters flew all over the infield. The ball went about 7 rows deep into LF. MFS62 May 24 2009 05:20 PM So, what this all boils down to is, Yankee Stadium, the place that Yankee fans consider to be the "temple of baseball" - is now a joke. Just like the names they used to call Shea. And there's no way they can spin it. I'm lovin' every minute of this. Later Willets Point May 24 2009 06:42 PM With all the homeruns flying out of the new ballpark, I suggest that we start calling in Yankee Stadium 3-D! Swan Swan H May 24 2009 07:05 PM Haw! Wouldn't it be fun to see all those empty suits and swinging dicks scattered through millionaires' row wearing 3-D glasses? Fman99 May 24 2009 09:09 PM ="MFS62":3mg1jjda]So, what this all boils down to is, Yankee Stadium, the place that Yankee fans consider to be the "temple of baseball" - is now a joke. Just like the names they used to call Shea. And there's no way they can spin it. I'm lovin' every minute of this. Later[/quote:3mg1jjda] I hadn't thought of it that way but I approve of your logic. Elster88 May 27 2009 05:58 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 27 2009 06:19 PM ="Frayed Knot":uay8wvqu]Teixeira today with a broken bat. Not a cracked bat mind you but one that shattered in his hands leaving him only with a small piece of the handle while the barrel and splinters flew all over the infield. The ball went about 7 rows deep into LF.[/quote:uay8wvqu] Listening to sports talk on a random station in DC they played the radio call of this play. The hosts ripped up Sterling both for the cartoonish-style call and for not mentioning that Texeira broke his bat. It seems that they know what an idiot that guy is around the country. Elster88 May 27 2009 05:59 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":su3m89ss]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:su3m89ss] Now that's just insulting. Elster88 May 27 2009 06:39 PM ="metirish":37124ase]Rogers took them to The Yankee Tavern for a few beers.[/quote:37124ase] The bartender kept trying to impress me by talking about all these awards his liquor won in the fifties back before they had draft beer. seawolf17 May 27 2009 06:59 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2b607477]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:2b607477] Huh? John Cougar Lunchbucket May 27 2009 07:39 PM ="seawolf17":1hdt22ta]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1hdt22ta]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:1hdt22ta] Huh?[/quote:1hdt22ta] Just busting yer Yankee-Lovin chops. Say hi to Hank for me. seawolf17 May 27 2009 07:44 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22bx65ep]="seawolf17":22bx65ep]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22bx65ep]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:22bx65ep] Huh?[/quote:22bx65ep] Just busting yer Yankee-Lovin chops. Say hi to Hank for me.[/quote:22bx65ep] Double huh? duan Jun 08 2009 06:27 AM ="Willets Point":14bhkrrc]With all the homeruns flying out of the new ballpark, I suggest that we start calling in Yankee Stadium 3-D![/quote:14bhkrrc] has this calmed down at all? Frayed Knot Jun 08 2009 06:38 AM Slightly. 100 HRs in 28 games: 53 by Yanx, 47 by opponents. That's still a ton but, at 3.57/game, the pace is down from when it was closer to 4/per. And that's just lower enough to where they're no longer on pace to break the Coors Field 1999 mark. Frayed Knot Jun 08 2009 07:59 PM 5 more HRs tonight 105 in 29 games 3.62/game = 293 for the season Record is 303 in Coors Field 1999 Also, Teixeira, Cano, Damon & Cabrera are on pace for their best HR seasons of their career (by 8, 7, 10 & 9) Jeter & Swisher are on a pace to about equal their bests Leaving the only regulars who aren't on a personal record pace as the 35 y/o Matsui, plus ARod & Posada who both missed about half the season so far. soupcan Jun 09 2009 08:23 AM Makes me curious as to what our homer-weary boys will do this weekend at the band-box in the Bronx. HahnSolo Jun 09 2009 09:10 AM The Damon HR was comical last night. When he hit the ball, he put his head down in disgust that he had popped the ball up. It landed three rows over the wall. Didn't stop Sterling from calling it a "Johnny Rocket" I bet. soupcan Jun 09 2009 09:13 AM IT IS HIGH...up! IT IS...not so...FAR! However, IT....IS....GONE! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 09 2009 09:33 AM ="HahnSolo":1nvohjim]The Damon HR was comical last night. When he hit the ball, he put his head down in disgust that he had popped the ball up. It landed three rows over the wall. Didn't stop Sterling from calling it a "Johnny Rocket" I bet.[/quote:1nvohjim] Was there last night. The Damon one was indeed ridiculous... but the Jeter one (just making the seats) and even the Swisher one (a well-struck but lazy fly that ended up carrying a shit-ton and landing past the first seating area in right-center) weren't far behind. By the third, the fans were standing up for any flyball into the gap. I'm thinking Churchy and Muffy-- hell, Cora, even-- should start aiming at the Subway sign during Phils BP... this weekend could make for some nice number inflation. Frayed Knot Jun 10 2009 06:27 AM Newsday: Fences are shorter http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spstad0611,0,3247160.story excerpts: The barrage of home runs at new Yankee Stadium is being caused by shorter dimensions, not weather, according to AccuWeather.com. The meteorology company said Tuesday that 20 of the 105 home runs hit at the $1.5 billion ballpark would not have gone out of the old Yankee Stadium. "For someone attending a game at the new Yankee Stadium or watching on TV, the size of the playing field appears to be the same," AccuWeather meteorologist Tim Buckley said in a statement Tuesday. {I guess he's got a reason to believe} "The dimensions at select corners of the field are identical -- and the posted numbers on the walls reflect that. However, detailed schematics of the park reveal some nuances that have significant implications." AccuWeather agreed with the conclusions of Greg Rybarczyk of hittrackeronline.com, who said in April that right field in the new ballpark was shorter. The Yankee insist that the dimensions are exactly the same. "The wall structure is slightly different than the old park," AccuWeather said. "The main difference involves curvature. The gentle curve from right field to center field seen in original Yankee Stadium has largely been eliminated at the new stadium ... due in large part to the presence of a manual scoreboard embedded within the wall. Losing this curvature has resulted in a right field that is shorter by four-to-five feet on average, but up to nine feet in spots. "Not only is the famed short porch even shorter in the new stadium, but the walls themselves are not as tall. In the old ballpark, the walls in right field stood at a height of approximately 10 feet. At this height, it was difficult for outfielders to scale the wall and attempt to rob a home run over the fence. Fast forward to 2009, and the outfielders have been scaling the wall without any trouble. The result? The new outfield fences only rise to a height of eight feet, adding to the ease hitting a home run to right." The new Yankee Stadium is on pace for 293 homers, 10 shy of the major league record hit at Denver's Coors Field in 1999 and an 83 percent increase from the 160 hit at original Yankee Stadium, last year. Frayed Knot Jun 18 2009 08:15 PM Today's (night's) 3-0 MFY loss to the Nats was, I believe, the first no-homer game in YSIII this season. seawolf17 Jun 18 2009 08:37 PM The MFYs had a little case of Metsflu tonight, getting shut out by a kid fresh off a high school ballfield somewhere. (A guy against whom, of course, the Mets bucked convention and beat recently.)

Anne Rice covered that 1998 Alberto Castillo game. enjoy, Later ********************************************************* Anne Rice Reports the Ballgame The Mets approached the old building with fear. It was secluded in the center of town, amid the cheap bars and crowded streets. But, as night began to fall, it emitted an eerie glow into the New England sky. The crowd seemed drawn inexorably toward the light, like moths to their doom. And as their team bus drew up to the gate, the word friendly was the farthest from the minds of the Met players. They had heard all the stories, but few of them had ever dared to enter. They changed into their uniforms solemnly, and slowly ventured out from the bowels of the building into the artificial light that was beginning to win its battle with encroaching darkness. They blinked in disbelief. There it was. All the stories were true. The Green Monster did exist To paraphrase Edward Albee, it was the malevolence of an erection. It had obviously been created by an architect with a deep hatred for pitchers. And they wondered to a man what impact that expanse of tin with mesh above would have on their immediate futures. The pitchers felt fear rising in their bellies; the hitters a false sense of bravado. Soon night would fall, darkness would envelop the rest of the world outside, and the dreaded Boston bats would emerge. Only one of their hurlers, Martinez, was able to nullify bats in this place, and without a necklace of garlic. By contrast, to the Met starter Al Leiter it had been a house of horrors for his entire career. Even the lights that started to dot the face of the Monster did not begin to allay their fears. It was a perfect home for a team that seemed to resurrect itself every decade. The locals spoke of the Curse which has lasted three quarters of a Century. Over that span, their fans have followed them to the brink of ecstasy, only to be plunged into the depths of despair. Yet the frenzy of their maniacal following has never waned, even to the point of destroying the lives of those players who may have disappointed them by making one small error or one bad pitch. The blood red words on the chests of the home team blazed in juxtaposition with the Halloween orange trim on the uniforms of the visitors. But whose blood would be spilled that night? The first battle was about to begin. The man expected to lead the Mets that night was Mike Piazza. But he was hit by a pitch from Martinez. Yet the man who replaced him, light hitting Alberto Castillo drove the first stake through Martinez� heart. It was a home run that was gobbled up by the Green Monster. The life began to drain from the local fans. To the Mets, the smell of blood was heady and they began to revel in the carnage that was about to unfold. The bats; the bats; the timber-nabulation of the bats was to continue all night. The Mets hit three more home runs and Boston�s own semi-mortal monster, Mo Vaughn hit two of his own. But the inevitable was never in question. Slowly the fans began to leave the old building, to drown their sorrows one more time in the seedy pubs that lined the neighboring streets. The Green Monster had consumed one of their own that night. Soon the bats would be asleep; artificial light replaced by the coming dawn. But in the darkness of the old arena, the bats would remain, waiting for their next victims.

Kong76 wrote: Booth says hammy. Boys and girls, he was trying to show us what happens when you actually touch third base when rounding it. Later

A guy called in to WFAN tonight and said that if Notre Dame gets that football game against Army at the new place, a field goal kicker may break the NCAA distance record if they're kicking toward right field. BTW- tonight's Yankee game is over. The 74 HR in the first 20 games sets the all-time ML record for a new ball park. This ain't your daddy's Coors Field. Later

="soupcan":2umqpzze]="Swan Swan H":2umqpzze]NP: I Got Rhythm.[/quote:2umqpzze] I got surgery.[/quote:2umqpzze] I got my gal. Who could ask for anything more? Later soupcan May 21 2009 08:42 AM My 12 year-old is already a die-hard Mets fan. Watches games, knows the players, etc. My 8-year old daughter is in training but has potential. She's a Dabidrye fan. My 10-year old son couldn't give a rats ass about them. But I'm...not... sad, 'cause 2 outta 3 ain't bad. Fman99 Jul 08 2009 10:27 AM The Dodgers put two guys on base last night, in one of the many innings that they did so. First and second, no outs. Fboy, watching on his little couch on the floor, says without a beat, "the Dodgers have a rally going here, Dad." It's fun to watch them pick up the jargon. Centerfield Jul 08 2009 02:07 PM My three-year old (four at the end of August) son has t-shirts for Santana and Wright. He has a Johan bobble-head. He had a Pedro jersey and 2 Beltran jerseys. But this year, he randomly picked Gary Sheffield as his favorite player. He still doesn't pay much attention to the games when they're on TV, but every once in a while, he'll look at the TV, see Sheffield batting and chant "Let's go Sheffield!" And Gary gets a hit (if not a HR) each time. And although he loves going to CitiField, you wouldn't know it by watching him play. When he's pretending to be a construction worker while playing outside, he always says he's doing the same thing. Tearing down Citifield and building a new Shea Stadium. sharpie Jul 08 2009 02:40 PM Lenny used to watch the games, wear the gear etc but no longer does (except the 1986 We're No 1 shirt he wore to the last CPF game, he wears that a lot). Friends, girls, rock 'n' roll won out. Happened to me for a while as well so I have hope. He still roots for them and enjoys going to games and if I'm watching he'll sometimes join me for a while, especially if he comes in near the end. My daughter has never cared. I suppose she would say she was a Mets fan if asked. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 08 2009 03:28 PM Lunchpail came into the room and noticed I had the game on the other night and said "Double play! Yay Mets!" but there was no double play to cheer. Too early to say where he winds up. seawolf17 Jul 08 2009 07:26 PM MiniWolf has enjoyed hitting off the tee lately. He makes me get my glove, then sets up the tee in the driveway and whacks the ball into the street, saying "I'm David Wright! I'm Number Five!" He can also sing (badly) the Jose Jose Jose song. Edgy DC Jul 08 2009 07:38 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":19mgiu7q]Lunchpail came into the room and noticed I had the game on the other night and said "Double play! Yay Mets!" but there was no double play to cheer. Too early to say where he winds up.[/quote:19mgiu7q] Keep that steady diet of bitchy fashion and cuisine shows coming. Everything will be jake. Fman99 Jul 08 2009 08:04 PM Fboy tonight told me that Manny reminded him of Sheffield because "they both hit righty and they both waggle their bats." Works for me. I didn't mention their common pharmeceutical hobbying.

Allevai Sholom. Rest In Peace. Later

The prequel book that they made into a sequel movie. Later

While reading the wound licking thread(s) I'm chuckling at the thought of what might have been listed if Internet baseball boards had been around in the days of the 1962 Mets. Then I sadly realize much of it would have been the same. Later