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MFYs still in a rain delay after over 4 hours. The Yanks don't want a repeat of last month's rain fiasco. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of fans. Later

Jason Phillips? Wiggy? Later

point of order. Are we talking about in the original posted batting order or as a result of double switches or pinch hitting? I'll guess Rod Kanehl. (although methinks it would have happened in the DH era) Later

="Willets Point":1vlta2mv]These guys in the booth should know never to trust a mic sitting right in front of them (or attached to them) not to be live.[/quote:1vlta2mv] Yes. One of the first things (maybe even the first) announcers are told is to assume the microphone is always on. Later Edgy DC Jun 18 2009 06:29 PM And now the fans are really getting into it... But only because the scoreboarrd is telling them to... I hate that. --- Oriole announcer Gary Thorne, 6/18 Kong76 Jun 18 2009 06:30 PM Canned enthusiasm. metirish Jun 22 2009 07:53 AM I really like Gary Cohen for lots of reasons and one of them is that at times what he says is exactly what I am thinking watching the game. When Stokes came in the game Gary wondered yet again why he is so underused . Then when Parnell was out there struggling Gary practically pleaded with the powers that be to stop using him so much , " maybe he needs to be sent back down, he's only a kid"....then when Feliciano was trotted out there again he talked about how he leads the league in games but also wondered what after Rodriguez, Green and Feliciano is there in this bullpen . Great stuff from him. themetfairy Jun 22 2009 10:25 AM He's also a nice guy. Here's Gary with MK at yesterdays Gary, Keith and Ron Foundation event - Edgy DC Jul 11 2009 08:03 PM They just stayed with them right now for about 60 seconds when they didn't realize they were on the air. Ron: "Keith was really watching tonight! He just texted me." Gary: "They're staying with us? They don't want to go to 10:00 news?" Ron: "What's wrong with them?" Gary: "We get better ratings than they do. There weren't that many pitching changes tonight. None actually. BURRRRP! Excuse me." bmfc1 Jul 11 2009 08:26 PM I didn't know we had this thread and posted about this in the IGT (even though it was post-game). The only thing I will add is Gary singing along to "Wonderful World." Nymr83 Jul 11 2009 08:26 PM thats funny. metirish Jul 20 2009 07:52 AM Listening to the sports update on the 'Fan yesterday they played John Sterlings call on Mark Texaria's home run. " it's high , it's far , it's out of here , oh Mark with a text message to right center upper deck , you're on the mark Texaria" Hilarious metirish Jul 28 2009 08:34 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 28 2009 09:00 AM I thought the guys in the booth last night were brilliant , in a still developing story they jumped right in. Mets broadcasters (from l.) Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling and Gary Cohen focus opening of Monday night's Mets-Rockies telecast on bizarre accusations of GM Omar Minaya Transcript - from the Daily news Gary Cohen, Keith Hernandez and Ron Darling talk about the Omar Minaya-Adam Rubin press conference. GARY COHEN: THIS HAS BEEN A VERY BIZARRE DAY IN METS LAND. THE METS TODAY FINALLY FIRED VICE PRESIDENT TONY BERNAZARD BUT THE BIGGER STORY BECAME THE WAY OMAR MINAYA HANDLED HIS PRESS CONFERENCE, CALLING OUT A REPORTER FROM THE DAILY NEWS, LEADING TO OMAR ISSUING A NON-APOLOGY, APOLOGY JUST MINUTES AGAIN. WE WILL TALK MUCH MORE ABOUT THIS AS WE PROCEED THROUGH THE BROADCAST TONIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY THE EVENTS REGARDING TONY BERNAZARD AND OMAR MINAYA AND ADAM RUBIN ARE DISTRACTING FROM THE FACT THAT THE METS COME OFF TWO TERRIFIC GAMES... GARY COHEN: BUT THE DAY STARTED EARLY TODAY WITH A PRESS CONFERENCE WHICH INTIALLY WAS CALLED BY OMAR MINAYA TO ANNOUNCE THE FIRING OF TONY BERNAZARD. OMAR THE METS GENERAL MANAGER ELLUDING TO VARIOUS INCIDENTS INVOLVING TONY, MANY OF WHICH WERE REPORTED ON BY THE DAILY NEWS, INVOLVING TAKING YOUR SHIRT OFF AND CHALLENGING A DOUBLE-A TEAM TO A FIGHT, GETTING INTO A SHOUTING MATCH WITH FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ ON A TEAM BUS AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS. AND AT FIRST, WHAT OMAR TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT OF THE METS HAD LAUNCHED AN INVESTIGATION BEFORE THE STORIES IN THE PAPER CAME OUT AND IT CAME TO FRUITION TODAY. (OMAR MINAYA SOUND ON TAPE) I MET WITH TONY BERNAZARD YESTERDAY, SHOWED HIM THE FACTS THAT WERE THERE AND WHEN IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, I HAD TO MAKE MY RECOMMENDATION TO OWNERSHIP. MY RECOMMENDATION TO OWNERSHIP WAS TO, THAT WE NEEDED TO LET TONY BERNAZARD GO. (OMAR MINAYA SOUND ON TAPE) I WAS SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE IN THE REPORT. I HAD TO BE SURPRISED OF COURSE THEY WERE THINGS THAT I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT. SO I WAS VERY SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE REPORT. GARY COHEN: NOW OMAR DIDN'T ADDRESS ANY OF THE SPECIFICS IN THE REPORT BUT HE TALKED A LITTLE AFTER THAT ABOUT TONY'S JOB PERFORMANCE AND ABOUT HIS PERSONALITY AND THEN THE PRESS CONFERENCE TOOK A BIZARRE TURN AS OMAR STARTED TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT ADAM RUBIN WHO WROTE THE STORIES IN THE DAILY NEWS THAT EVENTUALLY LED TO THIS COMING DOWN TODAY... THAT ADAM HAD SOMETIME IN THE PAST LOBBIED FOR A JOB IN PLAYER DEVELOPMENT IN THE METS ORGANIZATION AND THAT LED TO THIS EXCHANGE BETWEEN OMAR AND ADAM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE IN FRONT OF ALL THE MEDIA. (OMAR MINAYA AND ADAM RUBIN SOUND ON TAPE) ADAM RUBIN: IS WHAT YOU'RE ALLEGING THAT I TRIED TO TEAR TONY DOWN TO TAKE HIS JOB? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? OMAR MINAYA: NO, NO I'M NOT SAYING THAT. ALL IM SAYING WAS THAT I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU WROTE THE REPORTS, THAT IN THE PAST, YOU HAVE LOBBIED HAVE LOBBIED FOR A JOB. ADAM RUBIN: IF I WERE INTERESTED IN WORKING IN PLAYER DEVELOPMENT SOMEWHERE IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES AT SOME POINT IN MY LIFE, HOW DID THAT IMPACT THIS SITUATION AT ALL. OMAR MINAYA: I SAID BECAUSE WHEN THE REPORTS CAME OUT, A LOT OF THESE THINGS, I SAID WHO'S WRITING THESE REPORTS. I SAID OK HE'S WRITING THE REPORTS BUT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND ADAM, YOU HAVE TOLD ME YOU HAVE TOLD OTHER PEOPLE IN THE FRONT OFFICE, THAT YOU WANT TO WORK FOR PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, IN THE FRONT OFFICE. ADAM RUBIN: SO WHAT YOU'RE ALLEGING IS THAT, THE ONLY CONCLUSION I CAN DRAW FROM THAT, IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ALLEGE THAT I TRIED TO TEAR EVERYONE DOWN SO I COULD TAKE THEIR POSITION. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IT'S PRETTY DISPICABLE TO SAY THAT. GARY COHEN: THAT WAS ABOUT 4 O-CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON. NOW ABOUT 10 MINUTES AGO, IN A HASTILY CALLED PRESS CONFERENCE IN THE BACK OF THE PRESS BOX HERE AT CITI FIELD, OMAR APPEARED AGAIN, THIS TIME ALONG WITH CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER JEFF WILPON TO SORT OF APOLOGIZE. (OMAR MINAYA SOUND ON TAPE) I WANNA BASICALLY, REALLY APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT I RAISED IN THE FORUM. THAT WAS NOT THE PROPER FORUM FOR ME TO RAISE THOSE ISSUES. AND I JUST FEEL THAT I YOU KNOW IN BRINGING IT UP OVER THERE THOSE ISSUES, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS RIGHT AND I WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. GARY COHEN: NOW WHAT OMAR WENT ON TO SAY. HE SAID THAT HE STOOD BY WHAT HE HAD SAID ABOUT ADAM RUBIN BUT THAT IT WAS MERELY THE WRONG PLACE FOR HIM TO BRING IT UP. AND SO WE ARRIVE AT THIS MOMENT. YOU KNOW IT SEEMED AT FIRST THAT THE FIRING OF TONY BERNAZARD TODAY WOULD BE A POSITIVE STORY... A POSITIVE TAG AT THE END OF A KIND OF NEGATIVE STORY FOR THE METS. THAT THEY HAD KIND OF MOVED ASIDE A GUY THAT HAD CAUSED THEM GREAT EMBARRASSMENT BUT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THEY ONLY CAUSED THEMSELF GREATER EMBARRASSMENT TODAY. RON DARLING: THEY DID. THEY DID. I WOULD HAVE LIKED IT IF THE MEA CULPA THING THAT WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG AGAINST ADAM RUBIN WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE FORTHCOMING THAN IT WAS BY OMAR. I THINK THAT THEY'VE TURNED SOMETHING THAT LIKE GARY SAID SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LOOSE WHEEL, A BAD WHEEL, EXBRAGATED (SIC?) BACK TO BUSINESS OF BASEBALL, A TEAM THAT HAD WON TWO GAMES COMING INTO A HUGE HOMESTAND AND NOW THIS BECOMES THE HUGE STORY AND IT'S JUST AN AWFUL DAY HERE IN MET LAND. KEITH HERNANDEZ: I'M JUST WONDERING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF OMAR GOT OFF HIS TALKING POINTS OR IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS TO BE BROUGHT UP. I KIND OF FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ADAM RUBIN WAS BROUGHT INTO THIS. AND THIS WAS AS YOU SAID GARY, JUST A FIRING OF A GUY WHO MADE A LOT OF ENEMIES IN THIS ORGANIZATION, UP AND DOWN. AND IT WAS A SIMPLE JOB OF HEY, THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION AND HE HAD TO GO AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BOOM, LET GO, GO FORWARD. GARY COHEN: YEAH AND THE THING THAT IS SO PUZZLING ABOUT OMAR BRINGING ADAM INTO IT IS THAT AT NOT POINT DID HE SAY THAT ANYTHING THAT ADAM WROTE IS WRONG. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ADAM RUBIN, NOBODY WORKS HARDER THAN THIS GUY IN TERMS OF COVERING THE TEAM, IN TERMS OF COVERING THE MINOR LEAGUES, HE'S BEEN ON THIS BEAT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND DONE A GREAT JOB WITH IT BUT THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, HE'S NOT PART OF THE STORY, HE'S MERELY THE GUY WHO REPORTED THE STORY. RON DARLING: BUT THINK ABOUT IT, THAT THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY STARTED THIS HUMAN RESOURCES INVESTIGATION 3 WEEKS AGO AND THAT ADAM RELEASED HIS FINDINGS IN THE PAPER AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, WE FIND THEM TO BE ALL TRUE JUST THEY CAME OUT BEFORE ANYONE IN THE METS ORGANIZATION WANTED TO HEAR THEM. AND I THINK THAT HAS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM AND A BIG STICKING POINT. BUT I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY OMAR AT SOME POINT FELT ADAM RUBIN WAS ANY KIND OF STORY BECAUSE THEY'VE TURNED, LIKE I SAID WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN, IT'S HARD FOR SOMEONE BEING FIRED TO BE A POSITIVE STORY BUT IT COULD BE A STORY WHERE YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD AND THEY'VE TAKEN TWO STEPS BACK. KEITH HERNANDEZ: AND THE POINT IS ADAM RUBIN IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE. ADAM RUBIN IS A BEAT WRITER AND HIS JOB IS TO COVER THE TEAM. HE GOT A LEAD ON A STORY AND GUESS WHAT, HE REPORTED IT CORRECTLY, HE DID NOTHING WRONG. GARY COHEN: AND THIS WHOLE IDEA ABOUT ADAM WANTING A JOB IN BASEBALL. JEFF WILPON GOT UP IN FRONT OF THE MEDIA IN THAT PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT 10 MINUTES AGO AND SAID LOOK IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME A WRITER OR A COLUMNIST HAS ASKED, CALLED ME AND ASKED FOR JOB ADVICE FOR HOW TO GET A JOB WITHIN BASEBALL. IT'S KIND OF LIKE NEWSPAPER REPORTERS WHO BECOME PRESIDENTIAL PRESS SECRETARIES. THE BOND IS PRETTY CLOSE BETWEEN THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE TEAM AND THE PEOPLE WHO COVER THE TEAM AND SOMETIMES THOSE LINES CROSS BUT FOR OMAR TO BRING IT UP IN THIS FORUM OBVIOUSLY DID NOT DO HIM OR THE ORGANIZATION ANY GOOD. RON DARLING: WELL I LEARNED ONE THING, I DON'T WANNA BE A JOURNALIST I KNOW THAT. AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE WRITERS ARE OFFENDED AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY INTERESTING THING FOR ME, HOW YOU MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. HOW DO YOU TALK TO OMAR NOW WITHOUT THINKING THAT SOMETHING IS GONNA BE ON, OFF OR WHATEVER THE RECORD. KEITH HERNANDEZ: I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS GONNA BE HOW THE PLAYERS REACT TO THIS. THIS IS A BIG SERIES RIGHT HERE, TO GET BACK TO WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT DOWN HERE, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO COVERING THIS BALL CLUB, THE NEW YORK METS. YOU KNOW HAVE AN IMPORTANT SERIES HERE HOW'S IT GONNA AFFECT THEM. I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THEM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THE PLAYERS GO OUT THERE, THEY GET THEIR UNIFORM ON, THEY PREPARE TO PLAY AND YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH WIPE ALL THIS OUT, TAKE A DEEP BREATH, THEY KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS SERIES. RON DARLING: THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, AND I THINK KEITH YOU'RE RIGHT, ONCE THEY GET IN THE WHITE LINES IT'S EASY. THE ONLY PROBLEM FOR A PLAYER, AND YOU KNOW THIS, WHEN THESE TYPES OF THINGS HAPPEN, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM. BECAUSE BEFORE AND AFTER THE GAME PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE IN THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA WANNA KNOW THEIR REACTION TO THIS REACTION TO ADAM OR OMAR OR WHATEVER AND THAT'S WHEN IT CAN BE A PAIN IN THE YOU KNOW WHAT. GARY COHEN: AND THE FUNNY THING ABOUT THIS WHOLE CONFLAGRATION IS THAT NORMALLY FANS DON'T CARE ABOUT WHO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF PERSONNEL IN AN ORGANIZATION IS. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THAT THEIR TEAM WINS AND LOSES. THEY KNOW WHO THE G-M IS, THEY KNOW WHO THE MANAGER IS. TONY BERNAZARD HAS TAKEN A HIGHER PROFILE BECAUSE OF ALL THE STORIES THAT HAVE COME OUT ABOUT HIM BOTH IN PAST YEARS AND MORE RECENTLY BUT THE FACT THAT HAS BECOME AN EVEN LARGER STORY WITH THE FIRING OF BERNAZARD WHEN THEY COULD HAVE SIMPLY PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE SAYING THAT HE HAD BEEN FIRED, THAT'S THE SHAME OF IT, BECAUSE NONE OF THIS REALLY HAD TO HAPPEN. RON DARLING: IF HIS INTERPERSONAL RELATIONS WERE, WHERE I'M FROM, THAT MEANS HE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING ALONG WITH FOLKS, AT SOME POINT HAVE SOME OF THE RELATIONSHIPS BEEN COMPROMISED DOWN IN YOUR MINOR LEAGUE SYSTEM. THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT I REALLY THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. THAT, NOT ONLY THE PLAYERS WHO ARE YOUR PRIZED POSSESSIONS WHO YOU HAVE IN YOUR SYSTEM. THESE ARE THE GUYS WHO YOU'RE TRYING TO TEACH YOUNG MEN HOW TO PLAY BUT ALSO THESE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR YOU THAT ARE LIFERS, THAT ARE WORKING AS A MANAGER, OR ARE WORKING AS A PITCHING COACH IN SINGLE-A AND ARE MAKING PEANUTS, THAT HAVE GONE THRU A PROCESS OF NOT HAVING A GREAT RELATIONSHIP, THOSE ARE THE FENCES YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MEND. KEITH HERNANDEZ: AND I DON'T THINK WITH THE THINGS THAT HAVE TRANSPIRED WITH THE WAY BERNAZARD HANDLED THINGS IN THE MINOR LEAGUES, THAT'S NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE TO BUILD CHARACTER IN THE MINOR LEAGUES FOR GUYS WHO ARE TRYING TO MOVE UP. RON DARLING: THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, AND I THINK KEITH YOU'RE RIGHT, ONCE THEY GET IN THE WHITE LINES IT'S EASY. THE ONLY PROBLEM FOR A PLAYER, AND YOU KNOW THIS, WHEN THESE TYPES OF THINGS HAPPEN, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM. BECAUSE BEFORE AND AFTER THE GAME PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE IN THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA WANNA KNOW THEIR REACTION TO THIS REACTION TO ADAM OR OMAR OR WHATEVER AND THAT'S WHEN IT CAN BE A PAIN IN THE YOU KNOW WHAT. GARY COHEN: AND THE FUNNY THING ABOUT THIS WHOLE CONFLAGRATION IS THAT NORMALLY FANS DON'T CARE ABOUT WHO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF PERSONNEL IN AN ORGANIZATION IS. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS THAT THEIR TEAM WINS AND LOSES. THEY KNOW WHO THE G-M IS, THEY KNOW WHO THE MANAGER IS. TONY BERNAZARD HAS TAKEN A HIGHER PROFILE BECAUSE OF ALL THE STORIES THAT HAVE COME OUT ABOUT HIM BOTH IN PAST YEARS AND MORE RECENTLY BUT THE FACT THAT HAS BECOME AN EVEN LARGER STORY WITH THE FIRING OF BERNAZARD WHEN THEY COULD HAVE SIMPLY PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE SAYING THAT HE HAD BEEN FIRED, THAT'S THE SHAME OF IT, BECAUSE NONE OF THIS REALLY HAD TO HAPPEN. RON DARLING: IF HIS INTERPERSONAL RELATIONS WERE, WHERE I'M FROM, THAT MEANS HE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING ALONG WITH FOLKS, AT SOME POINT HAVE SOME OF THE RELATIONSHIPS BEEN COMPROMISED DOWN IN YOUR MINOR LEAGUE SYSTEM. THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT I REALLY THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. THAT, NOT ONLY THE PLAYERS WHO ARE YOUR PRIZED POSSESSIONS WHO YOU HAVE IN YOUR SYSTEM. THESE ARE THE GUYS WHO YOU'RE TRYING TO TEACH YOUNG MEN HOW TO PLAY BUT ALSO THESE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR YOU THAT ARE LIFERS, THAT ARE WORKING AS A MANAGER, OR ARE WORKING AS A PITCHING COACH IN SINGLE-A AND ARE MAKING PEANUTS, THAT HAVE GONE THRU A PROCESS OF NOT HAVING A GREAT RELATIONSHIP, THOSE ARE THE FENCES YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MEND. KEITH HERNANDEZ: AND I DON'T THINK WITH THE THINGS THAT HAVE TRANSPIRED WITH THE WAY BERNAZARD HANDLED THINGS IN THE MINOR LEAGUES, THAT'S NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE TO BUILD CHARACTER IN THE MINOR LEAGUES FOR GUYS WHO ARE TRYING TO MOVE UP. Transcript bmfc1 Jul 28 2009 08:55 AM I don't think that you'd find that level of criticism, or any criticism, on YES. Kay couldn't lead such a discussion and the color guys wouldn't dare criticize their bosses. Good work by SNY last night. duan Jul 28 2009 09:10 AM in fairness SNY's stuff has been very good on this. But then it's fucking great television - particularly the bit where Rubin's like "What the fuck????" during the press conference. One thing - how'd the director know where to cut? holychicken Jul 28 2009 09:35 AM I DON'T GET WHY THEY ALL HAD TO YELL THROUGH THE WHOLE CONVERSATION, but it was an interesting read none-the-less. Edgy DC Jul 28 2009 09:39 AM Anybody want to guess what Darling was going for with "EXBRAGATED"? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 28 2009 12:52 PM ="Edgy DC":2lfjxgar]Anybody want to guess what Darling was going for with "EXBRAGATED"?[/quote:2lfjxgar] "Expurgate," in the sense of "purge/delete," mebbe? (Still a misuse by the Yalie with the expensive edumacation, but still.) MFS62 Jul 28 2009 01:40 PM Looks like that might put the kibosh on that honorary PhD in English from Yale. Later Edgy DC Jul 28 2009 01:45 PM I like how they all repeated their last comments at the end. Edgy DC Aug 06 2009 10:09 PM They come back a few seconds early in the middle of the seventh and Darling is laughing hysterically. Whatever Gary said that got him going we missed, but then he adds some mustard to his punchline: "Well, sure. He's the sausage king of Milwaukee!" Farmer Ted Aug 07 2009 11:14 AM Probably a John Hughes reference, but meant Chicago. Abe Froman with his own facebook page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Abe-Froman-Sausage-King-of-Chicago/40993786061 Benjamin Grimm Aug 19 2009 01:28 PM This didn't actually happen, but I dreamt this last night, and when I woke up I, for a few minutes, thought it had really happened. ]Gary Cohen: The Braves have performed some terrible foreplay on the field this evening. Ron Darling: (Starts to chuckle...) Gary Cohen: Wait, did I say foreplay? I meant, the Braves have done some terrible fielding this evening. Ron and Gary then both laugh uncontrollably for a minute or while the game continues. I hesitate to even think about what would cause me to have a dream like that. MFS62 Aug 19 2009 01:38 PM BG, here's a suggestion. Lay off the garlic sandwiches before going to sleep. Heartburn can cause dreams (nightmares?) like that. Later

where's that Oops thread? Me likey Mr. Green now. Later

A seeing eye single followed by an uncontested stolen base. Wright is becoming the White Ichiro. Later

And now warming up in the bullpen: http://www.newarkbears.com/thebears/currentroster/index.html?player_id=92 Later

Edgy DC wrote: Michiganders do. People in Minnesota tell Wisconsin jokes, if you believe Garrison Keillor. Why did the badger cross the road? ... That's all I got. Later

HahnSolo wrote: I know he had 3 hits yesterday, but has the rook earned batting in that #2 spot? Well, if they bat him first, then major parts of the country are going to miss his first major league home run while TBS is away on comercial. Later

American League pitchers can get away with crap like that because they never have to bat. I wonder which one of his teammates will have to eat some horsehide (ahh, the good old days) for that? Later

="HahnSolo":1t3l4hdp]I'm not a pro baseball player, but both the Castillo and Delgado drops bring a question to mind. When did the one hand at shoulder height catch of a pop up become acceptable? Everybody seems to do it, so I won't get down too much on those two guys. But whatever happened to getting under it and turning your glove up above your head?[/quote:1t3l4hdp] The first I remember seeing do it were Roberto Clemente in the outfield and Vic Power in the infield. (For you kiddies out there, Vic was a very good fielding first baseman.) Later Frayed Knot Jul 04 2009 04:13 PM 7/4 -- Omir Santos, in the CBP, with the catcher's glove. Directly leads to one run and comes just two outs after Wright inexplicably backs off of a foul pop up. Ashie62 Jul 04 2009 04:19 PM ="Frayed Knot":1j03jjer]7/4 -- Omir Santos, in the CBP, with the catcher's glove. Directly leads to one run and comes just two outs after Wright inexplicably backs off of a foul pop up.[/quote:1j03jjer] I don't usually agree with McCarver but this IS major league baseball Edgy DC Jul 10 2009 06:44 PM Blown rundown play, 7/9. Frayed Knot Jul 10 2009 06:45 PM Well, shit, if we're going to track simple errors here we're going to need more bandwidth.

Edgy, I hope in your dream that the window was wide open and you delivered it in your best Albert Finney voice. Or maybe you were just channeling this: Later

="Ashie62":3tsn5m79] Maybe Castillo thought it might go yard [/quote:3tsn5m79] Great 62 minds think alike. I beat ya' by a few minutes: http://cranepoolforum.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=11844&start=140 Later holychicken Jun 13 2009 09:34 AM ="seawolf17":23h2thif] You're so right. Teixeira needs to get a ton of credit for hustle there... it's really easy to just jog it out and give up, and I thought the same thing would have happened were the roles reversed.[/quote:23h2thif] I am honestly not convinced about this. They were just jogging around the bases and even Teixeira himself said that he "turned it on" when he got waved around. If Castillo had thrown to home instead of second, they probably would have gotten him. . . if he had been hustling, they wouldn't have gotten him. The ball was up in the air for a while. Swan Swan H Jun 13 2009 09:42 AM It would be unseemly to suggest that the great and hallowed Yankees were the mere beneficiaries of a gift victory, following the failures of their closer and big-money cleanup hitter. A scenario must be concocted whereby they 'earned' it somehow, and Teixiera's 'hustle' is slightly more plausible than the gnarled ghostly hand of Miller Huggins tugging on Castillo's elbow. OE: I'm starting to feel like Dean Wormer talking about Delta House. I should go watch an episode of 'Pushing Daisies' and chill before 4:00. Frayed Knot Jun 13 2009 09:52 AM ="holychicken"]="seawolf17"] You're so right. Teixeira needs to get a ton of credit for hustle there... it's really easy to just jog it out and give up, and I thought the same thing would have happened were the roles reversed. I am honestly not convinced about this. They were just jogging around the bases and even Teixeira himself said that he "turned it on" when he got waved around. If Castillo had thrown to home instead of second, they probably would have gotten him. . . if he had been hustling, they wouldn't have gotten him. The ball was up in the air for a while. I didn't see a camera angle showing Teixeira (and, really, why would there be one) but Ray Knight, on a play involving a huge error that some of you may remember, claimed later on that he "was busting it the entire way" when film clearly shows him doing nothing of the sort. He didn't turn on the jets until it was pointed out to him that the ball 'got by Buckner' at which point he could have crawled home and still made it. Credit for hustle - and/or memory of it - many times gets selectively assigned. Edgy DC Jun 13 2009 11:58 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 15 2009 10:27 AM We're in perspective trouble any day Ashie is the one credited with displaying his "great mind.." How about this. This is the speach Skipper Edgy gave his troops in his dreams last night. (Throw 15 bats across the clubhouse floor.) OK, sit down. I don't want nobody heading toward the shower and it won't matter if you do because I told the clubbie to turn the water off. First of all, Luis, I'm not going tell you you fucked up, because you know you did. But you commited two mental errors that completely undermined everything. You didn't use two hands, and you threw behind the winning run. Making an error is one thing, playing with your head up your ass is another. I shouldn't need to tell you but I apparently do. You stunk. Your teammates have stunk by making simple lazy mental plays like that --- not running balls out, one handed catches --- and I've stunk by tolerating it all without consequences for too long. For you, you don't play the next two days, no matter how despearate I get. You show up, dress, sit on the bench, support the hell out of your stinking teammates, and go home. Other than that, this weekend is over for you. After that, we'll never speak of this. And I don't think we'll have to, because you'll be running hard, catching the ball with two hands, and keeping your stinky head in the game, right? As for the rest of you stinks, that's our new standard. Mental errors will get you pulled from the game straight away and another day on the bench to get your fool head straight. Multiple violations will be dealt with in a more serious and humiliating manner which I haven't thought of, because I frankly don't expect there to be multiple violations, and that's a dark part of my imagination I don't like to visit until I have to. Tonight, as I said, they'll be no showers. Razor is handing out subway cards. You'll all be putting on your street clothes over your stinky stinky bodies and taking the subway home so the good people who gave their time and money to support you tonight can ride next to you and tell you how much you stink. Fernando, you're a fine player and hopefully will be a big league all star someday, but tonight you're taking a bus to Buffalo. Usted va al Buffalo en un autobus. I don't want you anywhere near these stinking stinks right now. It leaves from Port Authority in an hour. I know 11 hours is a long time for your stinky body to be on a bus to Buffalo, but, if you don't like it, you can get off at Binghamton. If your manager says you're hustling and playing smart, you'll be back. Otherwise, get used to the busses. Delgado, Nieve is starting tomorrow. You make sure he gets home. The rest of you stinks are on your own. Enjoy travelling like real people and coming home to your wives all funky and shit. Personally, I think that's too good for you. I'll see you tomorrow which I fucking expect to be the hustlingest day in New York Mets history. Because if it's not, I will go apeshit. Now I'm letting the reporters in. Tell them how much you stink. Don't hang this on Luis alone. You all have been humiliating yourselves and the city on the front of your jersey. Tell them that. Stinking stinkers. (Overturn post-game spread.)How about that? Ashie62 Jun 13 2009 12:29 PM Works for me..don't think Willie would ever consider it..Now Bobby V..yes, yes he would MFS62 Jun 13 2009 01:10 PM Edgy, I hope in your dream that the window was wide open and you delivered it in your best Albert Finney voice. Or maybe you were just channeling this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLMl0CLIDLg Later Edgy DC Jun 13 2009 01:31 PM No, my model is more from Vincent Gardenia's performance in Bang the Drum Slowly. If you notice, I withhold the shower, rather than chase them into the shower. And I avoid exclamation points. I can't lose my temper anymore. Just can't. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 13 2009 05:36 PM Is this position looking silly yet? metirish Jun 13 2009 05:41 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":vio99rtk]Is this position looking silly yet?[/quote:vio99rtk] Very ...... Vic Sage Jun 15 2009 10:19 AM fire Jerry, hire Edgy! Now! Kong76 Jun 16 2009 03:10 PM I hope FAFIF isn't sore with us for ribbin' him. What a weekend.

A note on Tejada from the B-Mets yesterday: Yesterday, Ruben Tejada managed a 2-3 day at the plate to raise his average to .285. The performance upped his hitting streak to 10 games, which is the longest current streak in the Eastern League. He is hitting .353 (12-34) during the stretch of 10 games and has raised his batting average 15 points. Last year, Tejada batted just .229 in 131 games with St. Lucie (High-A). He has already equaled his home run total from a year ago with two. Later

Maybe Castillo will say that he didn't think could get it because he thought it was going to be a home run. Later

Swannie, I'll ditto everything you said and add one more to what fman said. My boss is a Yankee fan. It won't have to wait for replays on YES before I have to endure the pain again. It will happen on Monday. Later

Tar and feathering is too good for him. Draw and quarter? How does that work again? Later

Switzer's coming to the Mets? Next thing you know, the entire team will go on academic probation. Later

How can we put this delicately? Oh. I know. Who cares what you think, Chipper? Later

According to Yahoo, The movie has earned $400 million since its release, making it the highest grossing movie in the world this year. And I'm the only CPF-er who has voted? Later

Emil did something that every one of us would give anything to be able to do. He started a game for the New York Mets. Go with pride, Emil. Later

The Gnats were on a pace to lose 119 games this year before today's win. Maybe someone can remind the Washington GM of the old Branch Rickey line to Ralph Kiner, "We finished last with you and we can finish last without you". Then they can whisper in that GM's ear a suggestion to trade Dunn to the Mets. Can't hurt. After all, doesn't he want to be the GM of a record - setting team? Later

="Kong76"]MFS: That was cold <<< I put a smiley. I know. The truest things are said in jest. Smiley back at ya', pal. Later

="Kong76":14btmzj1]He's the Geeambeeno Abomb guy we hear sound clips of on the news. I didn't put two and two together in my haste to mock. Speaking of mocking, let's move on to Nets basketball on the radio :-)[/quote:14btmzj1] That was cold. Later TheOldMole Jun 06 2009 04:14 PM Ferdinand is still one of my favorite books. Kong76 Jun 06 2009 04:25 PM MFS: That was cold <<< I put a smiley. Kong76 Jun 06 2009 04:37 PM I just watched Ferdinand. I don't remember the book but I remember that cartoon. Good find. MFS62 Jun 06 2009 06:26 PM ="Kong76"]MFS: That was cold <<< I put a smiley. I know. The truest things are said in jest. Smiley back at ya', pal. Later Farmer Ted Jun 11 2009 02:42 PM Mr. Misch will find the links for CPF and MBTN in his email account later today. Let's see if he jumps in the pool.