Fman99 wrote: Really, though.. if he's contrite and hereafter clean, it's not that tough to reconcile, and, frankly, not a terrible story for the kids; it might even be a good entry point to discussions about fairness and forgiveness and lying/contrition. I mean, I'm not buying my daughter a shirt, but... if it's coming at an Ike-and-Montero-shaped price? Gimme gimme. Yep. Though I'm prone to over-forgiveness for guys who hit a lot of home runs in a Mets jersey. Even those who might be, like myself, super snarky Jew douches. and Metsguyinmichigan: The goal is to win, not win only with guys whom I'd invite over to watch "Field of Dreams" or babysit my kids. But, before they were married, It would have been ok for him to date one of my daughters. Later