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Edgy MD wrote: But hey, a hit each from Taylor and Senger in the same inning. We are already working from some long odds. And a two-run triple from Mullins now. All the non-hitters hitting today.

=kcmets post_id=201974 time=1755887368 user_id=53] I thought there was a limit to how many times a team can get applejacked and that the Mets met that limit already for 2025.

=Centerfield post_id=201949 time=1755818728 user_id=65]Let Megill finish the season in the rotation once he's ready. Let's see if he can take a positive step.

=Centerfield post_id=201950 time=1755819221 user_id=65] And most importantly, they need to figure out why the offense sucks year after year, with the exception of 4 months in 2024.

It is not hard to imagine a time in the not-too-distant future in which spots 1-4 on this leaderboard are held (in some order) by Alonso, Lindor, Nimmo, and Soto.

Not a lot of great decisions by Mendoza lately.

Tough call on hitting Mauricio against a lefty. I guess Taylor could hit for Torrens but not sure that's any movement.

Frayed Knot wrote: oops, now 3-2, Eugenio Suarez HR as the first batter to face David Robertson in the 7th That game ended as an 11-2 win for the Phillies. Poor showing by Seattle.

I can’t remember that. When Alvarez wasn’t hitting at all, I do remember a Torrens > Alvarez consideration, particularly given how good Torrens’ defense has been.

To some extent, the “travel costs”/travel time thing is a bit overblown. Sure, there’s some savings by reducing air mileage but it’s not that much if you have to charter the jet in the first instance — and everything else (hotels, meals) is still a cost no matter where you fly. The only road trips that don’t need a plane are the two same-city matchups, LA-SD, Chicago-Milwaukee, Cleveland-Detroit, Cleveland-Pittsburgh, Washington/Baltimore-Philly, and Philly-NY. Reweighting the schedule is a big unknown for revenue. The owners are all very happy to have the Dodgers, Cubs, Red Sox, Yankees, and Mets visit their cities often because their revenue goes up with premium opponents visiting. The real money is in expanding the playoffs, and in expansion fees paid by new clubs. And the real benefit for the players is that new clubs means more MLB roster spots.

The Athletic had this possible alignment today, with two teams switching leagues but otherwise preserving existing divisions and leagues to the greatest extent possible while also making geographic sense. NL East: NYM, PHI, WAS, PIT NL North: CHC, CIN, MIL, STL NL South: ATL, MIA, TBR, [Nashville] NL West: ARZ, LAD, SDP, SFG AL East: BAL, BOS, NYY, TOR AL North: CHW, CLE, DET, MIN AL South: COL, HOU, KCR, TEX AL West: Las Vegas, LAA, [salt Lake City], SEA

Assuming expansion happens, it seems a fair assumption to assume groupings of 4 and 8, no? The Post does well making a nice little map but their groupings are not very well thought out. The one hope for sensible realignment, if it happens, is that a sufficient number of owners may not find it in their interest to be realigned. The minor savings on travel costs is not going to outweigh concerns over access to the playoffs. A situation in which the Mets, Phillies, Red Sox, and Yankees are all placed in one division? One would expect 4 “no” votes from ownership of each of those clubs. That’s not enough to block it, but if there’s also a few other teams also placed in situations they don’t like (in ridiculous map above, that might also be Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Colorado, Toronto) — then there might be sufficient power to block dumb ideas.

Probably just the function of an off day. Assuming he sees the doctor in the morning, team knows something by mid-day, AND there’s something to announce….are they really going to put out a press release that afternoon? (Or just wait for the ordinary media availability/pregame press conference on Tuesday?)

I’m not sure what to do with an argument that “it was better before Denver and Phoenix had teams.” (The Mets have been regularly making 3 or more “West Coast” road trips per season since they joined the league). The random rainout makeup has always been a possibility when traveling somewhere a team won’t return to before the end of the season. Other teams have the same issue from time to time. And while MLB “special events” can be kind of goofy at times, making the Mets and Mariners travel all the way to Williamsport, PA for that game (flying time:

That’s fair, but also something that’s less easily correctable in-season.

If expansion is going to happen (it’s not necessary), there is a way to do this without totally destroying everything. Either 4 divisions of 8, or 8 divisions of 4 (splits below). NL East: Mets ATL PHI WAS —- CIN PIT MIA Nashville NL West: CHC COL MIL STL —- ARZ LAD SDP SFG AL East: BAL BOS NYY TBR —- CHW CLE DET TOR AL West: HOU KCR MIN TEX —- Las Vegas LAA Salt Lake City SEA

Manfred is the worst thing to happen to baseball in my lifetime. DH in the NL? Abominable. Clown car extra inning rules? Unforgivable Expanded playoffs, cheapening the product for everyone: terrible Now this nonsense? Unbelievable

Let’s take a look at the last 5 starts for both Kodai Senga and Sean Manaea, and consider if the hook is coming too soon for who are supposed to be 1-2 in the Mets rotation: Manaea July 23 vs LAA Pulled after 5 complete innings. Mets up 6-1, 82 pitches. 2-3-4 coming up for the Angels in the next innning. Verdict: A little hasty, but this was Manaea’s third appearance of the season, so maybe defensible if he’s still stretching out. Game outcome: Mets won 6-3. Butto let up a couple of runs in his second inning of relief. July 29 vs SD Pulled after 5 complete innings, tie game (1-1), top of the Padres order coming up, 86 pitches. Verdict: too hasty. Game outcome: Butto relieved Manaea and let up one run in the 6th, and Mendoza then sent him out for a second inning which went very poorly. Mets lose 7-1 Aug 4 vs CLE Pulled in the middle of the 6th with 2 outs. Pitched 5 scoreless innings (allowing only 3 baserunners) but then let up 5 runs (including a bases-clearing homer) in the 6th with one out. Strikes out the next batter for second out, then allows a single and is pulled having thrown 29 pitches that inning (85 total for the game). Verdict: maybe he could’ve gone one more batter, but this isn’t really an awful decision. Game outcome: Mets would tie it up but lose in the 10th in large part due to clown car rules. August 10 vs MIL Pulled after first batter reaches in 5th. Mets up 6-3 at time. 87 pitches. Verdict: too quick to pull him Game outcome: Garrett came in and allowed a 2-run homer to the first batter he faced. Mets never scored again. Helsley and Diaz each allowed a run in the 8th and 9th to lose 7-6 Aug 15 vs SEA Pulled after 5 complete, Mets up 6-4, 86 pitches. Had allowed 3 runs on homers in the second and third, but had scoreless innings in the 4th and 5th. 6-7-8 coming up for Seattle. Verdict: too quick, with only 86 pitches Game outcome: bullpen lets up 7 runs. Mets get a few back but lose 11-9 Senga Jul 21 vs LAA Pulled after competing 3 inning, Mets down 4-0, 73 pitches. Threw 37 pitches in the third inning, giving up 3 runs. Verdict: defensible to pull him there after a very taxing inning and the game within reach if the bullpen could stop the bleeding. Game outcome: Mets won, 7-5. Kevin Herget with a nice outing to back up Senga’s early exit. Jul 27 at SF Pulled after completing 5 innings, Giants up 3-2, 92 pitches, bottom of order coming up in the 6th. Giants were throwing a bullpen game. Verdict: a little hasty. Senga’s had 4 outings of 100+ pitches so far this year. Game outcome: Mets won 5-3, using 5 relievers to get 4 scoreless innings. Aug 2 vs SF pulled after completing 4 innings, Mets up 5-4. 71 pitches. Verdict: way too quick for the guy who’s supposed to be the ace of the staff Game outcome: Mets won 12-6, teeing off on the Giants’ bullpen. Aug 8 at MIL Pulled with one out in the 5th, tie game (2-2, one run allowed by Senga was unearned), bases loaded (in part due to an error). Was at 79 pitches. Verdict: too quick of a hook, especially after a short outing the last time! Game outcome: Raley hit the next gut with a pitch to force in the run, and nobody scored again. Mets lose 3-2. Aug 14 vs ATL Pulled with 2 outs in the 6th, tie game (1-1), runners on first and third, 93 pitches. Had thrown 19 pitches in the inning. Verdict: probably too quick for a hook, but closer call. Could have allowed Senga to face Albies. Game outcome: Albies singled off Rogers for a one run lead. Mets would take lead a one run lead back but Helsley had a bad 8th. Mets lose 4-3.

=Centerfield post_id=201578 time=1755482446 user_id=65] When you go to the bullpen too early.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: On Saturday's broadcast, Gary said that the Mets would be taking a bus from Queens to Williamsport. He was referring to the bus call at Citi Field to take the team to LaGuardia.

Washington won, so Mets pull to 5 games back. Wheeler was put on the IL with a blood clot in his upper right arm.

I don't know about you, but I'm in favor of giving McLean another start. Mets video team did a nice job showing him in the dugout for a second big ovation. Crowd heavily booing Mendoza when he came out to take McLean out was well done.

Isn’t he still recovering from TJ surgery?

It’s a typo.

No confusion, Hodges is correct.