Gwreck

=Centerfield post_id=205486 time=1758765024 user_id=65] Wait. If Holmes was available. Why did we allow lovelady to let the Cubs extend the lead?

Pirates survive to the 11th.

Pirates get the clown car runner home but no more in the top of the 10th.

Mendoza has to go get him before it's out of reach. Pull him NOW

I’ve been unimpressed with Siri overall, but it’s only been 36 plate appearances, and he’s shown elite speed and plays good defense. Seems hasty to determine that he needs to go.

Out of town scoreboard: Dodgers 1, Diamondbacks 0, middle 3.

Mets need to win this game in regulation.

=Centerfield post_id=205231 time=1758672955 user_id=65] This game is over.

=Centerfield post_id=205237 time=1758673358 user_id=65]Another guy whose performance was so poor you have no idea what to expect of him next year.

Peterson's next start would be Sunday and he's clearly not making that. Not clear who will though.

Freudian slip there? Roger Cedeno (not Gomez) was the outfielder signed as a free agent ahead of the 2002 season.

1. Do not approach the offseason with any sort of assumption that a spot needs to be held open for Benge, Williams, Clifford, or anyone else in the prospect ranks. In fact, assume exactly zero major league production from any of those 3 players. If and when they produce in the majors, that's a bonus, but shouldn't be factored in when making offseason moves. 2. Re-sign Alonso. Maybe this involves a bit of an over-pay, with the contract really paying for production over the next 3 or so years (even if the contract winds up being longer). But realistically, there are very few options available on the free agent market that can provide what Pete does. 3. Make a serious play for Kyle Schwarber. No, seriously. We have a billionaire owner. Go to him and explain what a coup it would be to sign Alonso and the other best available free-agent hitter, plus the added benefit of subtracting a great player from the biggest obstacle to a division title. Making the Phillies overpay is the consolation prize even if he doesn't want to join the Mets. 3a. The open DH slot offers massive flexibility. (Yes, we are assuming that Starling Marte will not be back as the DH next year. Thanks for your service Starling, your 2022 was great, you had some big hits in the 2024 postseason, and you really were pretty good in 2025 also, but you're 37 now and have had too many injuries, and we're moving on.) So, with that flexibility, go out and see about acquiring any other hitter possible. Position doesn't matter. Maybe it's Bregman or Brandon Lowe or Ramon Laureano, but just get the best hitter you can if it's not Schwarber. 4. Extend arbitration offers to Tyrone Taylor and Jose Siri, but have a plan for someone else to play center field on a full time basis who is neither of those two guys, nor Benge or Williams. The free agent market here is not encouraging (and that's part of why you plan to retain Taylor and Siri on low-cost contracts in the first instance), but I have faith in Stearns to find an interesting trade partner.

The point was that home field advantage for the WS is determined by the records of the two teams actually participating. Forget the Reds/Mets/Padres/etc. — the Dodgers (not exactly a dark horse) would not have home field over multiple AL teams.

Frayed Knot wrote: but whoever wins will have the all-important first round Bye and probably the best AL record overall (though neither will be as good as MIL or PHI (barring something really unusual) so the NL gets the home field in the WS. Not sure I'd be so quick to assume that MIL or PHI will necessarily represent the NL in the World Series. Seattle is 3 back of Toronto for the top record in the AL, so they're still in contention for that slot.

This is where part of the big mystery is: in a vacuum, a lot of the players on this team are individually doing just fine, especially the hitters. And despite Senga and Peterson’s bad performances in the second half, there’s lots of talent there which produced great results earlier in the year (and has done so in past last). The bullpen is going to need be remade (again) in the offseason…but “dead weight on the roster” isn’t what comes to mind. Who were you thinking of?

I thought this thread was premature when it was started but now I’m really quite worried.

=Centerfield post_id=205044 time=1758426346 user_id=65]The worst loss of the season.

Britton in The Athletic has several updates: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6645438/2025/09/19/mets-pitching-plans-into-postseason/ Megill and Garrett both need Tommy John surgery. Garrett also needs surgery for a nerve in his throwing elbow. He could wait on TJ and try other options after rehabbing from the nerve surgery, but that would push his recovery past opening day 2027 if he does so, so could be better to get it all done now. Senga is unlikely to be on the postseason roster. Mets likely to carry all 6 starters (McLean, Sproat, Tong, Holmes, Manaea, Peterson) on the wild card roster. "Expect creativity" = could mean 3 different starters in a given game, each trying to get through one turn of the Dodgers' lineup. Mets considering whether to use McLean for Game 1 or Game 2 of the WC series. They seem some value in using the best starter in Game 2, which would either be a stave-off-elimination game, or a clinch-the-series game. The off day Monday allows them to change up the rotation. Additionally, there is an extra off day in the NLDS schedule this year, so a pitcher in Game 2 of the WC series could pitch games 2 and 5 of the Division Series. Don't rule out Syracuse reliever Dylan Ross for consideration on the postseason roster.

Down 1 in the top of the 9th of a must-win game and we're not going to Diaz??

Frayed Knot wrote: If the runner is judged to be 'breaking for 2nd' on the pickoff is can be credited as a 'Caught Stealing'. But if he's diving back towards 1st or merely freezes in place it's a pickoff which is counted as a different category, not as a 'CS'. This is correct. However, I do not believe Soto has been picked off in such a manner this year.

Edgy MD wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: =Gwreck post_id=204947 time=1758331316 user_id=56] This might bother me as slightly selfish except for the fact that he never, ever gets thrown out stealing. Except for the occasional pickoff which, as far as I'm concerned, should get counted the same as a caught stealing. Don't they?

San Diego lost to the White Sox tonight. With a win, Mets will be 4 back of SD for the #5 seed. (3 GB in the standings but lost the tiebreaker).

Edgy MD wrote: Juan Soto really, really wants 40 steals. This might bother me as slightly selfish except for the fact that he never, ever gets thrown out stealing.

Edgy MD wrote: Tyrone Taylor ain't gonna play if he can't get himself activated. He should be ready soon once he's done with parental leave.

The Diamondbacks have won the tiebreaker over the Mets. Explanation: Arizona has a 2-game lead in intradivision record with both the Mets and Arizona having 6 intradivision games remaining. In order to tie in the WC standings, Arizona would need to win exactly 2 more games than the Mets over the remaining 9. In any such tying scenario (Mets win 0, Arizona wins 2; all the way to Mets win 7, Arizona wins 9), the Mets would not have a better intradivisonal record.