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Paul Molitor?

Nymr83 wrote: if management wants to agree to a "single vote = 1 million" clause then let them, its their money if a dumbass writer decided to vote for a guy who doesnt deserve it. Can't believe I actually agree with Nymr83 about something, but he's totally right. Most award bonuses are tied to winning, or first through 3rd places.

I'm sure there can be some other type of contract incentive worked out. How long until a player gets incentives and escalators based upon win shares?

Springsteen had no support act. Elton John/Eric Clapton was the act immediately preceding Springsteen, August 21 and 22, 1992. --- My HS marching band also played at Shea, my senior year -- although 'twas a Mets game. Seems to me it was after Domencetti had retired, though.

I still see this as a great deal for the Tigers. Miller is indeed a great prospect but with Verlander, Bonderman, Robertson and Minor they have quality young pitching. Add Willis and Kenny Rogers (who reupped for a year) and they can put one of them in the 'pen.

One of the biggest Shea highlights from the otherwise miserable 2003 season was that Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band ended their 02-03 world tour with 3 nights at Shea. I had been following the tour for quite a while and each of the shows at Shea were among the best that I had seen. That this tour was ending was in some ways sad, because it wasn't clear when (or if? -- they were getting older) we'd see the E Street Band again. When they had reunited several years earlier for their previous tour (in fairness, a mostly nostalgia-fest), it was lots of fun, but that they could go out with a brand new album of relevant rock music was the true payoff of the reunion. He had already played 10 nights at Giants Stadium in the summer, so another 3 in the NY area seemed somewhat excessive (the seats were pretty much filled, though). By the end of the tour, however, Springsteen had opened up the setlist to include songs even from the deepest reaches of his catalog which was a treat for those who had seen more than one or two shows by that point. Highlights from the shows (and there were many) included Springsteen revisiting "American Skin (41 Shots)," the song that brought him so much controversy from the dimwitted NYC Police when he played it at the Garden in 2000; some highly politicized moments (including using "Souls of the Departed," "Roulette" and "Code of Silence" to open each show) a magnificent "New York City Serenade" on the second night; "Into the Fire," dedicated to a Long Island firefighter who missed the show by a week, having been killed in the line of duty -- his wife had gotten him the seats for his birthday; Al Leiter joining on some badly-played tambourine for "Rosalita;" and a surprise appearance by Bob Dylan on the final night, joining Springsteen on stage for "Highway 61 Revisited." I had never been to Shea before for a non-baseball event, so it was strange to see the scoreboard hidden behind the stage, completely turned off. Bringing up all of the baseball lights for "Born to Run" was pretty damn cool, even if you'd seen the song in concert 30 times before. Entrance to the field seats was through the bullpens, which provided that fun reliever-perspective of entering the field.

Keppinger had a pretty kick-ass 2nd half in Cincinnati last year: .332/.400/.447 in 241 ABs. On that alone, the Mets "lose," although if Keppinger could do that in a full season remains to be seen.

="iramets"][Now, as to my point: do you really want all trades where you get a veteran for a prospect to be labelled as unqualified successes until ten or fifteen years down the road? To a certain extent -- yeah. We can safely put Kazmir/Zambrano on Jim Duquette's "bad" list but we really won't know HOW bad until Kamir has a few more years under his belt. Or a lesser example, the deal we made in '02 where we lost Jason Bay was a deadline deal. He hadn't hit the majors yet, and it probably wasn't until mid-2002 -- 2 years after the deal -- in the middle of his rookie of the year season where we could safely say "Oh shit, didn't we have this guy? What the fuck?"

Also we got Green from the Diamondbacks, not the Dodgers.

[u:c668fbefe8]Good (so far)[/u:c668fbefe8] Benson-Maine/Julio trade Nady-Perez/Hernandez trade Seo-Sanchez trade Julio-Hernandez trade Brinkley-GHernandez/LoDuca trade [u:c668fbefe8]Bad (so far)[/u:c668fbefe8] Bannister-Burgos trade Bell-Ring/Johnson-Adkins trade Keppinger/Gotay trade Matsui/Marerro trade [u:c668fbefe8]Indifferent/Inconclusive[/u:c668fbefe8] Jacobs-Petit-Psomas/Delgado trade MacLane-Green trade VWilson/AHernandez trade Bladergroen/Meintkiewicz trade Phillips-Ishii trade Diaz-Nickeas trade Cameron-Nady trade I fixed them, including ranking the "good" and "bad" ones. The Green trade moves to the "indifferent" pile -- Green may not have been anything special but we also give up nothing of value to get him. I'd entertain putting Nady/Cameron back in the good pile, considering that Omer got good value on a player who came off a frightening injury and didn't want to play for the Mets.

I remember it being bigger.

Did we not think we were going to get 15-70-.272 out of Milledge in 2007? 'Cause that's what Church did. Oh, and Milledge is also 6 years younger.

I don't see how that's "bold." Tejada's about a year away from needing to be converted to 1B.

They both live in the Dominican Republic, I think both in Santiago. They could well know each other even if they played for other teams.

I might be worried if there were other teams all picking up the mythical "top of the rotation" starter and the Mets would be appreciably worse as a result. Given that said pitchers number about 8 throughout both leagues, I'm not worried.

Best possible move would be getting Gary off TV and back to radio where he was far, far better (which I guess is the polite way of saying that he's gotten progressively worse since the move to TV).

McGwire and Gossage.

Daily News has the story too. http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2007/11/mets-deal-mota-for-johnny-estr.html

4 counts of perjury, 1 count of Obstruction of Justice. I don't have a source other than the electronic casefile website of the Northern District of California. (The indictment's public record).

G-Fafif wrote: Less than five months ago they were campaigning to excess to get him on the All-Star team. Now they can't be bothered to look at him, going so far as to replace him with somebody who doesn't bring much more besides relative youth to the position. While your point about them really not wanting him around may have merit, the fact that they were campaigning for him for the all-star team is less of a reflection on LoDuca personally, or his value to the team as a player than it is on the marketability of all-stars and the prestige of having several players from your team as starters.

Edgy DC wrote: Does this really clear that much salary for the Cubs? No. According to Cot's Contracts, the Cubs are paying $2M of the $5M Jones will be making in 2008. Strange deal.

Hooray for reading comprehension!

Nymr83 wrote: of course they're not being sued because they're not a deep pocket. Actually, it's much more likely that they're not being sued because they're simply not known. It's probably extremely difficult to identify the sender. There's clearly a case for libel on the part of the sender and the lawyers would of course sue him/her if they could be identified.

Correct. I coulda sworn there were some others but those were the only 4 Mets I could think of.

They're all sons of major league ballplayers. So now I am no longer out of turn.