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i didnt even think of the 2012-2013 when Reyes left along with Buhrle and others in that one trade with Toronto and Hanley signing elsewhere, Lee retiring. but you're right that was yet another instance.

Edgy MD wrote: A post invisible to your eyes declared the Mets to have garnered two first-place finishes in the previous 30 years. Ah. Two more than Hillary, then.

Was it a Chicago Bull?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Not that it's much better, but it's THREE first-place finishes in thirty years: 1988, 2006, and 2015. Better than what? The Marlins? We also have 2 or 3 wildcards while they have just the two, but they got luckier in the postseason

Centerfield wrote: Sounds fair. This part hits home. It’s easy to look at what the Marlins are doing with regard to their payroll and call it an embarrassment. What the Mets are doing is arguably worse. The franchise put out a winning product for a couple years and now appear willing to pocket the goodwill the fanbase has shown. The team has been outspent by the Kansas City Royals over the last four seasons and it looks like that won’t change in 2018, either, even as Kansas City enters what’s likely to be a rebuilding phase. I pretty much agree with the article - this is the window with Thor, deGrom, Conforto*, Cespedes - fucking take it. *ok, the window with him is likely much longer the one part i don't agree with is the Marlins part - the Marlins are far more embarrassing because 1) this is their 3rd fire sale in 20 years - they are a PERPETUAL joke 2) they actively sought to lose, trading away good players under team control 3) worse than Wilpon losing his shirt to Madoff is a NEW ownership group allowed to buy a team to gut it - this is embarrassing not just to one franchise but to the league as a whole 4) Jeter.

Edgy MD wrote: He's also one of the greatest players ever to wear a pair of underpants. who is the greatest player to regularly "go commando"?

DH isnt an automatic disqualification for me, but I will treat the guy as if he were a worse-than-Jeter level defender when considering his career.

I would definitely take Kipnis for Ramos. Kipnis has had a very odd career so far - in 6 years both his offensive and defensive values had fluctuated pretty wildly - twice being very poor, twice average, and twice good. just looking at his career line, he isn't any better than Cabrera. that's not to say he isnt an upgrade over playing time that would go to Smith vs. lefties or Flores vs righties, but he isnt that great a player.

Keith gets a little full of himself sometimes. 1. it is never irresponsible to reach out. maybe you suffer an injury (or three) and the guy becomes your best option down the line. 2. maybe the Mets feel that his recent results were injury-related and can improve. Does Medical Doctor Keith Law know for sure this isn't the case? 3. I'm glad Keith thinks Smith is ready. If Smith is really ready, Gonzalez won't sniff the field. nobody is saying to guarantee him any playing time or even a roster spot past the end of spring training. 4. How does Doctor of Psychology Keith Law know that he isn't an "asset" in the clubhouse. maybe he would fit right in with the Mets guys.

yeah which is why the signing wouldn't bother me, at minimum salary he is easily disposable. my only concern is the extent to which signing him causes the Mets to throw up their 'mission accomplished' banner for infield help rather than considering him essentially a fully guaranteed salary spring-training invitee

I'd be fine with the addition considering the non-cost and its an added bonus that if he does well the Braves are paying for it. Not really exciting though. and i'd prefer a right handed hitter with more position flexibility be added.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Buster Olney wrote: You can assume the Mets are among teams kicking around idea of pursuing long-time All-Star Adrian Gonzalez. They're looking for a short-term add-on at the position; when healthy, he's a good hitter/defender; was just cut by ATL, and costs nothing more than minimum salary in '18. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21821426/new-york-mets-reach-adrian-gonzalez it went from "you can assume" to "sources have told Buster" - the natural evolution of bullshit right there. want to invent a rumor? add an unnamed source to keep the story alive a day later!

Centerfield wrote: And it really is amazing how your reaction to everything is to justify and spin. You see liars and you’re drawn to them. You have this irresistible urge to give them a cover story. Me, I just see a guy who hated the Wilpons, got a licensing deal and shut the hell up to protect his bottom line. OR he never hated the Wilpons, saw anti-Wilpon merchandising as his foothold into the T-shirts marketplace, and pivoted into the more stable "team approved" market when he saw the chance. In other words, maybe he is just a guy trying to make $$ and his 'views' on the Wilpons are just whatever is convenient.

Centerfield wrote: Doesn’t he play CF? Did I make that up? he has played the position if that is what you mean, but at least according to BR he is a negative defender there. Cespedes and Conforto have both played some CF too, and with about as much negativity - but they are both better hitters already under contract. (There is also Nimmo to consider) so if you are willing to play a subpar defender in CF, move one of those guys there and you can get an equivalent hitter to Yelich to play a corner while not costing valuable player resources, only Wilpon's money - but i'd rather get a better defender in CF or spend on another spot really.

Ashie62 wrote: Centerfield wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't really pay any attention to them. Have they never made a shirt that's at all snarky or sarcastic about the Mets? I'm guessing they haven't. It's funny you should ask. Way back in 2011, before their nice cozy deal with the Mets, the 7 Line became famous for this t-shirt. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that they are fine with the Wilpons now. I don't give a rat about the 7-Line. I and many here precede them. At this point I'd say they have a conflict of interest.. They are serving two masters. It dont work. Bollocks. NOW GET YELICH! yeah, go give up lots of talent in a trade to get a player at the only positions (either corner outfield spot) where the Mets are pretty much set. that'll solve something.

I agree 1000% with Darren's sentiments.

i don't think new roster sizes are a good idea. i'd rather the advantage go to the team that gets creative within the rules. the value of multi-inning relievers should go up.

Fire Jeter!

Will Jeter's blowing up of the Marlins count against him on the ballot?

Harrison looks ok...

I would think this is a better plan than anything that includes Napoli: Vs. Right: 1B: Smith 2B: Cabrera SS: Rosario 3B: Flores Vs. Left: 1B: Flores 2B: Cabrera SS: Rosario 3B: Rivera

impressive beard. hasn't played catcher in 5 years and has never played 3B. I'd pass.

Edgy MD wrote: Indeed. As I said, that's some disturbing loose-lippedness. You've got to protect your information. Even if you're a free agent, you save that shit for your new team. So, unless the guy is really dumb (which is totally possible), maybe it's part of a counter-information strategy. Circles within circles. Maybe Darvish's agent is behind it to make teams think they can easily 'fix' what went wrong

Kinsler fell off a cliff, but i'd take a shot on his rebounding as i think its the last year of his deal?

even if true, why would you say that?? hold onto it for when you see him again!