Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Maeda has a career ERA of 3.75 and WHIP of 1.110. If that is your floor he's better than a mid-rotation guy. how does that translate though? Japan is like Quadruple-A right? NPB typically plays at about a AA standard of competition, but that doesn't speak to whether they are in an offensive or defensive era relative to MLB or relative MLB-afilliated AA circuits. There is disagreement among researchers on what this transfer rate actually should be. Moreso, I think, than the competition-level estimates of other foreign leagues and major independents. Some folks place NPB as high as mid-AAA. Part of the distinction is whether researchers are measuring both ways. Some are basing their estimates on NPB performers coming over to MLB, but others are looking at MLB players going to Japan as well. I think that would definitely be the difference - some guys (Ichiro, Tanaka, Darvish) come over here and remain star players or at least pretty good ones (Maeda) but the evidence against Japan being a high-level league would be the guys who go to Japan after having very limited success here. Tuffy Rhodes is exhibit A, B, and C of Japan being Little League. Maybe the truth is somewhere else - Japan is MLB, but "during Spring Training" all year. There are plenty of MLB-quality players, but the overall stats are hard to judge/translate because there are also plenty of guys who would struggle to crack the Brooklyn Cyclones roster. This would also make sense given baseball culture in Japan and its relative population size - unlike say Venezuela or the Dominican Republic, the dream of every young Japanese baseball player isn't to make it in America. The league retains top talent because it is a viable enough end-goal for world-class talent.