vic: i know minaya may not have produced the goods yet but i just like the guy, if you think he deserves to be fired thats alright and you may be rigght. i think the GM has an advantage over the manager in the "who do the fans want fired" sweepstakes because the GM made his moves in the offseason and even years earlier in building the team, while the manager is the one making decisions for all to criticize during the season. after the mets lose a game more people are going to call in and say "fire the manager, i can't believe he brought Joe Scrub in to face Pujols there," they aren't going to say "fire the GM, i can't believe Joe Scrub was thebest guy we had in the bullpen there" joe torre won enough world series to be immune to the wrath of the fans, but when criticized he often fell victim to this logic, the principle yankee weakness in the regular season from 2001-2007 was probably the bullpen, and torre always got yelled at by wfan callers and newspaper writers for not bringing Rivera or (whoever the 2nd most reliable guy was that year) into a certain spot, ignoring the fact that if he did as they asked every time Rivera would have had 200 innings on his arm per year. you dont hear much "fire cashman, the bum has a 200 million dollar team and couldnt find a decent setup guy"