Giants Sunflower Seeds presents: Find Us a Manager (Group A)

[Edgy MD]

You're Sandy Alderson, and the Wilpons tell you to find a new manager. "Done!" you say. "Edgardo Alfonso!"

"We're not done, Sandy," they say, in unison, which is creepy. "We need a guy with experience — big league experience."

"We insist on it," adds Sol Katz, who up until that moment, you hadn't realized was in the room, but now you can't stop thinking about how he's dominating the room.

"Solly Hemus," you say.

"That's not gonna work out either," says Katz, with a terrifying look in his eye. "But I'm sure you'll find somebody."

So you head back to your office and huddle with your lieutenants. "Get me the name of every living experienced manager!" you cry.

And here you are. Here's the first group (handed to you by Senior Vice President, Baseball Operations & Assistant General Manager John Ricco!) Pick four of these guys that you are going to call in for an interview.

(Yes, I realize Terry is on the list, and that's absurd, but as the last guy who has lost his job, he's the most recent available experienced manager in existence.)

	Mgr	Age	Team(s)	Yrs	From	To	W	L	W-L %	Ties	G> .500	G	W Post	L Post	W-L% Post	Best Fin	Wrst Fin	Av Rk	Plyof App	WS Won	Penn Won	ASG	Mets Connection
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/a/a3ba326f_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Terry Collins	68	HOU, ANA, NYM	13	1994	2017	995	1017	.495	0	-22	2012	8	7	.533	1	4	2.6	2	0	1	1	Mets minor league field coordinator, 2010; manager, 2011–2017.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/5c73bfdf_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Alan Trammell	60	DET, ARI	4	2003	2014	187	302	.382	0	-115	489	0	0		4	5	4.3	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/5039b8f0_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Ron Washington	65	TEX	8	2007	2014	664	611	.521	0	53	1275	18	16	.529	1	5	2.3	3	0	2	2	Played for AAA Tidewater, 1979.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/d/d9a2322d_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Mike Quade	61	CHC	2	2010	2011	95	104	.477	0	-9	199	0	0		5	5	5.0	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/9/90f76120_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Jim Riggleman	65	SDP, CHC, SEA, WSH	12	1992	2011	662	824	.445	0	-162	1486	0	3	.000	2	7	4.4	1	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/52402596_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Mike Hargrove	68	CLE, BAL, SEA	16	1991	2007	1188	1173	.503	2	15	2363	27	25	.519	1	7	3.1	5	0	2	2
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/592fd2ab_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Grady Little	68	BOS, LAD	4	2002	2007	358	290	.552	0	68	648	6	9	.400	2	4	2.5	2	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/d/df283f13_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Bruce Kimm	66	CHC	1	2002	2002	33	45	.423	0	-12	78	0	0		5	5	5.0	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/1/19f9ce70_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Rene Lachemann	72	SEA, MIL, FLA, CHC	9	1981	2002	428	560	.433	0	-132	988	0	0		3	7	5.2	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/3/3e57b1c8_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Larry Parrish	64	DET	2	1998	1999	82	104	.441	0	-22	186	0	0		3	5	3.3	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/8/8b47e01a_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Glenn Hoffman	59	LAD	1	1998	1998	47	41	.534	0	6	88	0	0		3	3	3.0	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/6/69a42cff_davis.jpg[/fimg]	John Wathan	68	KCR, CAL	6	1987	1992	326	320	.505	0	6	646	0	0		2	6	3.9	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/d/da366c19_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Joe Altobelli	85	SFG, BAL, CHC	7	1977	1991	437	407	.518	0	30	844	7	2	.778	1	5	3.4	1	1	1	1
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/e/e3a77a76_br.jpg[/fimg]	John Vukovich	60	CHC, PHA	2	1986	1988	6	5	.545	0	1	11	0	0		5	6	5.8	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/3/3892599c_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Pat Corrales	77	TEX, PHA, CLE	9	1978	1987	572	634	.474	5	-62	1211	0	0		1	7	4.6	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/e/ed278dce_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Dave Bristol	84	CIN, MIL, ATL, SFG	11	1966	1980	657	764	.462	3	-107	1424	0	0		3	7	4.9	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/6/690efc75_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Don Kessinger	75	CWS	1	1979	1979	46	60	.434	0	-14	106	0	0		5	5	5.0	0	0	0	0

[A Boy Named Seo]

First, I call in Glenn Hoffman cause he's the youngblood in Group A, checking in at a hungry and spry 59 years of age.

Then I call Ron Washington, because despite his great W/L record, I seem to recall him making some incredibly dumbfounding moves when managing the Rangers in the playoffs. I think he would be fascinating to talk baseball with in the same way it would be fascinating to talk baseball with Joe Morgan.

Then I call in Joe Altobelli and Dave Bristol together because guys in the 80's who want to talk about baseball are super fun to hang out with, and more than one is even better.

Then I hope to God there's an actual candidate in Group B.

[MFS62]

Can't wait for group B.

If I had to pick one, Vukovich.

But only if I HAD to pick one.

Later

[HahnSolo]

Is this the "Managers who are still alive 2017" thread?

[metirish]

WOW, that's an underwhelming group, I need to think on this

[metirish]

Went with

Alan Trammell

Ron Washington

Mike Hargrove

Glenn Hoffman

Honestly I know not much about a lot of the others, pretty sure I have not even heard of some of them

[bmfc1]

Washington, if only to talk about drugs.

Hargrove is a no because he would take too long to bring out the lineup card.

[Edgy MD]

HahnSolo wrote: Is this the "Managers who are still alive 2017" thread?

Part I, yes.

[Edgy MD]

I figured folks would shrug and vote for the four youngest, but here we are and two guys gave votes for calling Dave Bristol in for interview. Fair play to you.

[Guest d'Kong76]

HahnSolo wrote: Is this the "Managers who are still alive 2017" thread?

That's pretty f'n funny!

[Guest d'Kong76]

Went with Trammell, Washington, Hargrove and Little.
Loved Little on Sanford and Son.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I wanna click on Charlie Manuel. What group is he in?

[Edgy MD]

Look for Charlie tomorrow morning in Group D, along with two ex-Mets and a favorite of mine, Hal McRae.

[ashie62]

None of the above, although Ron Washington might get the most out of Harvey.

[Guest Mets Willets Point]

Maybe this is the "Really Old Guys" group?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Trammell, if only to pepper him with '85 Tigers questions.

Washington, because I like his energy. His twitchy, motor-mouthed, friend-alienating energy.

Hargrove, because anyone who can navigate the roiling tabloid whirlpool of Cleveland for that long deserves a shot.

Quade, because I'd want to see how many Total Recall jokes I could lob at him before he got up and left.





Good Lord, this group.

[Fman99]

Fuck all these guys. Send them careening off the edge of a cliff in a bus and the only one who'd notice is the guy who runs baseball-reference.com.

[Frayed Knot]

Ron Washington is currently 3rd base coaching in Atlanta, they just hired him last off season.
And while I wouldn't want him as my manager (I seem to remember a lot of kooky WS decisions and actions) he has a great reputation -- and not merely as portrayed on the silver screen -- as a running
coach and particularly as a defensive guru for infielders. Think this team couldn't use one of those right about now?

Like I said he's 3rd base coaching right now and, seeing as how Sherlock is the one guy they're retaining, he's probably not gettable out of his current slot unless he could be sold on the idea that a
bench coach position would be an upgrade.

[Edgy MD]

If we hired Washington, anytime I tried to teach a new skill to any player, I'd be tempted to turn to him and say, "It's not that hard. Tell him, Wash."

[Edgy MD]

Tip of the hat also to whoever gave Terry his lone vote.

[Lefty Specialist]

Washington, for the obvious entertainment value.

Grady Little, so I can say, "I'm not sure if anyone has asked you this before, but why did you stick with Pedro?"

Rene Lachemann, because he's got a really cool black hat with a green brim.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I don't know. A guy with WASHINGTON on the back of his uniform might be a spy from the Nationals. At the very least, he'd have mixed loyalties.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I went with Trammell, who played, then managed for the Tigers of Detroit back when Michigan was in the good hands of Democrat governors James Blanchard and Jennifer Granholm. This was before that once proud state was purchased by that know nothing Betsy Devos and hijacked by the GOP. Back then, you could send your kids to the public schools of Detroit knowing that your tax dollars wouldn't be siphoned off to voucher charter schools that would use those tax dollars to discriminate against kids and teach lunatic religious theories. And create all white flight schools, all at the expense and annihilation of inner city schools because the tax dollar pot of money is finite and where that money goes is a zero sum game. Back then, Flint's drinking water was safe to drink. You think Betsy Devos would ever drink Flint's water? Why didn't Flint get the same water that Holland, Michigan gets? Was that all part of God's plan? The God that lives in Betsy Devos's God's Kingdom? Now that scumbag state is about to pass voter suppression laws even though there's no evidence of voter fraud in Michigan unless you count what the scumbag current governor of Michigan, Rick Snyder did to throw out 75,000 ballots from Detroit during last year's presidential election, where Trammell used to play. So what if Michigan's new law will appear to be unconstitutional? By the time the challenge to the law reaches the Supreme Court, there'll be a second Neil Gorsuch on that bench to make Michigan's corrupt partisan voter suppression legal. Maybe Trammell could put an end to the abusive partisan gerrymandering happening in Michigan, where according to the efficiency gap, Michigan's lines are the next most outrageous lines in the nation, second only to the more scumbaggier state of North Carolina.

So that's why I voted for Trammell.

[Edgy MD]

It looks like Washington, Trammel, and Hargrove will advance from Group A, but we have a four-way tie among Mike Quade, Larry Parrish, and Dave Bristol for the last spot. If any who have a vote remaining want to break this tie, here's your chance. It can also be broken by somebody switching their vote.

Go for it! Democracy is fun!

[batmagadanleadoff]

I voted for Larry Parrish. I don't know Parrish personally, but I did meet him. And if I were playing that game called Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, I only need one personal acquaintance to link myself directly to Parrish. Plus he managed the Tigers. So he must know the current sad state of political affairs in Michigan, where, politically speaking, everything that's coming out of that wholly owned Betsy Devos subsidiary is slimy. Maybe Larry Parrish can fix things in Michigan where the drinking water in Flint is poisonous all so that scumbag Snyder could save seven dollars a day. Where the pols run Detroit like it's the Warsaw Ghetto of WWII, stealing their education money so that Betsy Devos can fund schools that teach conversion therapy and intelligent design with public tax dollars. Where the scumbag governor throws out 75,000 votes coming out of Detroit in a state election that Trump won by about 10,000 votes. The state that's got just about the most abusive and contrived congressional lines, all to guarantee that the scumbag GOP running things in Michigan gets most seats with less than most of the vote. Where the state went to right to work mainly to weaken the unions because unions tend to vote Democrat. Maybe Parrish can fix Michigan. I was looking to vote for Sparky Anderson or Billy Martin or Ralph Houk, but after a while of looking for them, I remembered that they were all dead. I'm sure they're rolling over in their graves over what's become of Michigan, which is lucky that there's the insaner state of North Carolina to keep everyone's eyes off of what a sleazeball state Michigan has become. Plus, their educational system is about the worst in the nation, thanks to that know nothing Devos running it and their biggest city, Detroit, once one of the greatest cites in America, went bankrupt and is a shithole. Vote for Larry Parrish.

I'll bet anything that someone from this forum is gonna post here how Michigan gave out some free sandwiches and a couple of overcoats to some homeless people and how that makes everything else in this post about the vomit drinking water and gerrymandering alright. I'll bet that those homeless people receiving those overcoats were Republicans, too. I suppose it's OK to destroy an entire city's public education system because whoever did it is a nice guy and those homeless republicans got extra pickles.