Jose Jose No Jose!

[Guest themetfairy]

Jose Reyes Arrested on Domestic Violence Charges

[Zvon]

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Jose, say it ain't so.

[Edgy MD]

Unless it is, you know?

Ugly. Ugly and awful.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Sounds bad.

[Benjamin Grimm]

His wife told police that Reyes grabbed her by the throat and shoved her into a glass door that led to the balcony in their room at the Four Seasons Resort Maui at Wailea.

Not cool at all.

[Centerfield]

That's terrible. You'd think at 40 I'd know enough not to be disappointed when a player I like does something like this. But I guess that part of me never grew up. I hope his wife is ok.

For whatever it's worth, I hope that this is just an isolated incident, and we don't later find out about a pattern of abuse (not that this makes it acceptable by any means) and I hope that Jose will learn his lesson from this.

[Guest d'Kong76]

http://heavy.com/sports/2015/11/jose-reyes-wife-katherine-ramirez-domestic-abuse-assault-throat-glass-door-hawaii-kids-facebook-instagram-page/

[Benjamin Grimm]

Centerfield wrote: You'd think at 40 I'd know enough not to be disappointed when a player I like does something like this.

Yup. We tend to think that we know some celebrities far better than we actually do. (See Cosby, William H.) We shouldn't be surprised when we hear news like this, because we only know Jose as a smiling shortstop and really know little to nothing about what he's like in private. But it surprises us anyway, because of that illusion of familiarity.

[MFS62]

Will they trade him to the Dallas Cowboys?

Later

[Guest d'Kong76]

People beatin' on each other is not a springboard for silly humor.

[seawolf17]

Fuckin' idiot.

[MFS62]

d'Kong76 wrote: People beatin' on each other is not a springboard for silly humor.

Right now, its "suspicion of".
If he is found guilty, I will seriously condemn him.

Later

[Edgy MD]

The two situations are grave either way.

[soupcan]

This is a shame.

Why do I get the feeling that if Jose had just stayed here, all would be well?

I know thats probably not true, but I still love that kid.

[Guest cooby classic]

My dad loved him too, so I did.

Damn it Jose, why?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Centerfield wrote: That's terrible. You'd think at 40 I'd know enough not to be disappointed when a player I like does something like this. But I guess that part of me never grew up. I hope his wife is ok.

Yep.

Dammit.

[dgwphotography]

soupcan wrote: This is a shame. Why do I get the feeling that if Jose had just stayed here, all would be well? I know thats probably not true, but I still love that kid.

I used to feel the same way about Darryl...

[Farmer Ted]

He is shunned by the Mets.
Signs a big contract with a team he really doesn't want to play for.
Traded to OH, CANADA! in a typical Marlins salary dump.
Traded to the Rockies for Tulo and the Blue Jays season takes off. Rockies go 26-38 to close out the season.
Mets get to the WS with Wilmer Flores at SS.

I can probably understand the deep-rooted psychological issues at hand with the man, but take it out on a water cooler, Jose. Get some counseling.

Damn. Damn. Damn. This really makes me sad.

[Edgy MD]

I missed the shunning. He made his own choices.

[Farmer Ted]

Shunned.

December 5, 2011, NJ.com

Reyes, the reigning National League batting champion, agreed to a six-year contract reportedly worth $106 million — a pair of figures the Mets and general manager Sandy Alderson had little interest in matching. With reports of Reyes’ departure buzzing on the eve of the Winter Meetings, Alderson admitted that his club never made a formal offer during this process.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Farmer Ted wrote: Alderson admitted that his club never made a formal offer during this process.

And Bingo was his name-o

[Benjamin Grimm]

John Harper saying that Reyes should be banned 81 games.

We probably need to know more details, but I don't think that's unreasonable.

[Zvon]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: John Harper saying that Reyes should be banned 81 games. We probably need to know more details, but I don't think that's unreasonable.

Half a season? I'm certainly not going to condone what Reyes did but I think that's excessive. I feel anything over 40 games is excessive in this specific situation.

[dgwphotography]

I think we should err on the side of excessive for something like this. It is not for us who have not experienced it to say what is excessive when it comes to domestic abuse.

[Edgy MD]

Harper's nonetheless getting ahead of things.

José Reyes' agent courted suitors. When the Mets approached him, he asked them to name how high they were willing to go.

They named it, and formal offer or not, the agent took that number to the Marlins and had them top it.

I should be so shunned.

[Centerfield]

I think Sandy said afterwards that as soon as they had the Marlins offer, the Reyes camp said if you're not going to match or beat it, don't bother. So the Mets didn't. Whether that is what happened or not we may never know. I do remember Reyes saying he felt shunned afterwards.

Getting back to the point, I do think MLB should come down hard on Reyes. It's important to be ahead of the curve on this and not look the other way like they did with steroids. Send a message that this won't be tolerated. Maybe 81 games is too severe, but certainly more than 5 or 10. Maybe 25 or 30?

What they should not do, is give him a slap on the wrist, wait for footage to come out of the incident, then increase the punishment.

NFL: We didn't realize Ray Rice knocked out his fiance in such a violent manner. Now that we see he did not gently punch her unconscious, we are increasing the suspension.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I don't have a problem with 81 games, if that's what it ends up being.

I think each incident has to be evaluated on its own. All domestic abuse is bad, of course, but there should be stronger penalties, I think, for a savage beating than for a single open-handed slap.

We don't, of course, know all the details, but if Jose grabbed his wife by the throat, slammed her against a wall, and caused injuries that required her to go to a hospital, I'd say that's fairly severe. Certainly not MOST severe, but I think it's severe enough to warrant 81 games.

[Centerfield]

Yeah. I think you're right. And another factor should be if this was an isolated incident or if a pattern of abuse is discovered.

It sucks that Jose has to be the poster boy for this. But you know, I guess he deserves it.

[seawolf17]

Centerfield wrote: It sucks that Jose has to be the poster boy for this. But you know, I guess he deserves it.

This and this. 81 games is entirely reasonable because fuck that shit.

[nymr83]

MLB should throw the book at him (or get Clemens to throw the BAT at him?), give him a full season off, and let an arbitrator reduce it if necessary. this way MLB has taken their stance and the arbitrator can set precedent for these cases going forward, which are thankfully far less frequent than they are in the NFL!