Murph & the Gays

[Centerfield]

And you can tell everybody this is my view
It may be quite simple but what can I do?

[Edgy MD]

Don't let no dudes
Go down on me!
Although I'm tolerant
Their lifestyle's not for me
I'm quite content to stick with just my wife
At least sexual-LEEE!!
But then they start to dance and sing
It's like a DUDE'S GOIN' DOWN ON ME!

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: sharpie wrote: I would respectfully disagree on all your points. But i think we're steering afar from the point of the thread. Partly my fault. Apologies. And I would respectfully agree that we have veered far off of the point of the thread. Apology accepted and echoed. The point of this thread is Elton John song parodies. Get to work.

Good bye Billy Beane
Though I never knew you at all
You had the strength to out yourself
When those around you stalled...


I'm not good at these

[Edgy MD]

You're doing fine. Far more tasteful than mine, certainly.

[G-Fafif]

I guess that's why they call them the gays
Enough with these mics in my face
Withholding approval
Not preaching removal
I guess soon I'll be sent to the Rays

[Zvon]

TransMonk wrote: I'm not sure how much disrespect was intentional in what Murphy said, but I personally think he said too much and I wish he would have kept his mouth shut.

I really don't think any dis was meant, but I also wish he didn't open his pie hole. I hope this just fades away but I'm afraid it won't. If the Mets were on the fence before, and I think they were, now they definitely don't resign him.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm quite confident that this will have no impact on how long Murphy stays with the Mets.

[Edgy MD]

On the other hand, Pirates third baseman Josh Harrison just went down with an ankle injury, and they're likely loathe to move Pedro Alvarez back over there, and they are clearly a fave trading partner for the Aldersonians...

No idea how serious the injury is, of course.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Homos aren't my kind of man, sir
Riding on that Hershey Highway
Wrap their junk in straps of leather
They go gay everyday

[smg58]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Wish this would all go away.

We'll be on to something else by tomorrow. Wait, what was this thread about?

[batmagadanleadoff]

sharpie wrote: I would respectfully disagree on all your points. But i think we're steering afar from the point of the thread. Partly my fault. Apologies. And I would respectfully agree that we have veered far off of the point of the thread. Apology accepted and echoed.

We didn't stray nuthin'. You can't discuss this story meaningfully without hitting these other topics that we supposedly "strayed" into. Now if youse wanna say that this ain't the proper place for a meaningful discussion of this piece, well that's somethin' else. Even though Murf the Met started it.

I say Murphy's fucking clueless, and I say that believing that Murph's 's probably a nice guy, that he's not some mean-spirited thug who might beat a gay person to within an inch of his life just on account of his gayness, and that he's even open-minded enough to come around on his view. But he still doesn't get no free pass just because of the church he belongs to, just the same as the guy who lynches an African-American doesn't get a free pass just because he sympathizes with the Klan or just because for the last 100 years, nobody in his family's ever left the State of Mississippi.

Cuddyer says he has never had a gay teammate that he has known of. Daniel Murphy says he has not either.

I thought this was the funniest part of the piece, even with the qualification. Boy are these jocks clueless. Together, the two of 'em probably already had dozens of gay baseball teammates, going back to their little league days. Jeez, I could easily and effortlessly name you a dozen gay Mets in as long as it takes me to say their names, no doubt about it, bet my life, I don't care what you say to the contrary if you don't believe me. They're gay. (Nttawwt).

[Lefty Specialist]

I'm betting all of Billy Bean's teammates thought they never had a gay teammate either.

[Guest d'Kong76]

ya can't bash gay in the clubhouse
the hacks'll get ya, and how

[Guest cooby]

You guys just enticed me to order Elton's John's greatest hits. I used to own it but accidentally sold it along with a car when I traded it in.


And btw, Edgy, I know some people that still believe the Earth is only 5000 years old. (I am not one of them)

My son has a biology degree and when we were talking around the table one night with some folks I said "I don't think anyone here really doesn't believe in evolution, right?" and I was floored.
I do believe in Creation but not to the one week only standard in the Bible. I also believe in science. I think they can go hand in hand (read Isaac Asimov). My son and I have talked a LOT about this (as a scientist, he is also an atheist) and he has put some scientific questions in my head and I have put some theological ideas in his....I think that is the true meaning of life....accept each others' beliefs, but expand on their knowledge.

Also I have a number of gay and married gay friends and from a Christian standpoint I can understand exactly what Murphy is saying but I think that truly he has no ill will toward gays. What a shame that this is gonna get twisted, if it does.


Lovin' your Elton songs; he's one of my favorites!

Edited March 4, 2015 by Guest

[Guest d'Kong76]

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[Guest cooby]

Oh I got free shipping

[Guest d'Kong76]

Just kidding, I have the old cd's.

[Guest cooby]

Actually, of course, I just accidentally sold one of the set in the car. But now I'll have an extra of the first one!

Now that I watch Lion King regularly again, I need to keep up with "Circle of Life", lol...

[Edgy MD]

cooby wrote: You guys just enticed me to order Elton's John's greatest hits. I used to own it but accidentally sold it along with a car when I traded it in. And btw, Edgy, I know some people that still believe the Earth is only 5000 years old. (I am not one of them) My son has a biology degree and when we were talking around the table one night with some folks I said "I don't think anyone here really doesn't believe in evolution, right?" and I was floored. I do believe in Creation but not to the one week only standard in the Bible. I also believe in science. I think they can go hand in hand (read Isaac Asimov). My son and I have talked a LOT about this (as a scientist, he is also an atheist) and he has put some scientific questions in my head and I have put some theological ideas in his....I think that is the true meaning of life....accept each others' beliefs, but expand on their knowledge. Also I have a number of gay and married gay friends and from a Christian standpoint I can understand exactly what Murphy is saying but I think that truly he has no ill will toward gays. What a shame that this is gonna get twisted, if it does. Lovin' your Elton songs; he's one of my favorites!

Reason, tolerance, compassion, and reconciliation. Four for four.

[Edgy MD]

Nieuwenhuis: 1.77
Monell: 1.63
Campbell: 1.27
Velasquez: 0.88
Reynolds: 0.85
Lagares: 0.71
Thornton: 0.64
Goeddel: 0.49
Flores: 0.49
Alvarez: 0.39
Morris: 0.39
Leathersich: 0.21
Tovar: 0.14
Castellanos: 0.07
Plawecki: 0.07

[Guest d'Kong76]

Edgy MD wrote: Nieuwenhuis: 1.77 Monell: 1.63 Campbell: 1.27 Velasquez: 0.88 Reynolds: 0.85 Lagares: 0.71 Thornton: 0.64 Goeddel: 0.49 Flores: 0.49 Alvarez: 0.39 Morris: 0.39 Leathersich: 0.21 Tovar: 0.14 Castellanos: 0.07 Plawecki: 0.07

Is this some kind of gayness rating??

[metsmarathon]

With the whole, gay is a lifestyle choice...
Doesn't that mean that Murphy also had to choose to be straight?
And by that, I mean, that at one point, he had to be looking at dicks and think, "man, they might be just as good as pussy. I wonder if I should give it a try...? No, wait... My religion says it's bad, so I'm not going to give into the temptation of the cock. It's straightsville all the way for me."

just like he chose the baseball lifestyle and the dad lifestyle, despite the temptations to go in other directions.

It's okay Daniel. We understand. Cocks are tempting. But stay strong, or you'll go straight to hell.

[batmagadanleadoff]

cooby wrote: ... from a Christian standpoint I can understand exactly what Murphy is saying but I think that truly he has no ill will toward gays. What a shame that this is gonna get twisted, if it does.

Yeah, I don't think Murph's comment necessarily makes him a bad guy, either. Just a little bit clueless.

Lefty Specialist wrote: Wish this would all go away.

I bet it does. Looks like the Mets finally did something smart, PR-wise, by shutting Murph down. Or up.

[Edgy MD]

In the end, there's more than a few who struggle for gay rights who don't want their identity to be seen as merely innate. They fear the isolation of a supposed gay gene that will be identified in utero and have presumably gay children aborted to near extinction much like Down Syndrome children have been. And they understand themselves to be the product of their innate traits, yes, but also of personal choice. "Probably both," as George W. Bush said. Self discovery and self creation.

They often see in the notion that choice is out of the equation the flip side of the same coercion that that haunted them in their own exploration and self-discovery.

I don't know.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

LOVE the Eltonwork, btw. But THIS...

Edgy MD wrote: I'm quite content to stick with just my wife At least sexual-LEEE!! But then they start to dance and sing It's like a DUDE'S GOIN' DOWN ON ME!

... had me-- even after a long night of work/class-- giggling to myself like a madman across the subway platform from you.

[Edgy MD]

d'Kong76 wrote: Nieuwenhuis: 1.77 Monell: 1.63 Campbell: 1.27 Velasquez: 0.88 Reynolds: 0.85 Lagares: 0.71 Thornton: 0.64 Goeddel: 0.49 Flores: 0.49 Alvarez: 0.39 Morris: 0.39 Leathersich: 0.21 Tovar: 0.14 Castellanos: 0.07 Plawecki: 0.07 Is this some kind of gayness rating??

Sheesh, that was meant to go in the IGT.

But it works for gayness, too, now thatcha mention it.

[Edgy MD]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LOVE the Eltonwork, btw. But THIS... Edgy MD wrote: I'm quite content to stick with just my wife At least sexual-LEEE!! But then they start to dance and sing It's like a DUDE'S GOIN' DOWN ON ME! ... had me-- even after a long night of work/class-- giggling to myself like a madman across the subway platform from you.

I'm surprised to find out that you have class.

The funny thing is that you don't even have to work to change "Your Song." Just swap "song" with "shlong," leave 100% of it the same, and it's high-LAR-ious.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Edgy MD wrote: I'm surprised to find out that you have class.

[Frayed Knot]

You wouldn't have to alter the lyrics much on a bunch of Elton/Taupin songs:

... living like a lusty flower / running through the grass for hours

[RealityChuck]

I think the statement is better understood if you consider that Murphy probably intended "gay lifestyle" to mean "gay sex."

It's not controversial that straight men don't like the idea of gay sex (otherwise they'd be gay or bi). Murphy is saying that, he doesn't like what gays do in bed, but that doesn't mean he can't be civil and friendly to a gay man.

Though it's kind of a silly thing to say by someone who's on the trade block -- the team is less likely to keep him if he becomes controversial.