Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 � 6m 6 minutes ago #Mets expect trade SP, likely Gee, next 7-10 days But might need Shields signed 1st. #sfgiants like Gee, but have to know if getting Shields

[Edgy MD]

Not quite certain I understand.

1. Am I to understand the Mets are trading Gee to free up room and salary to add James Shields?
2. Or is it that the Giants don't want to trade for Gee until they know Shields is no longer an option for them?
3. Or perhaps, the Mets and Giants are close, but both sides are niggling on the deal, and hoping the ultimate signing of Shields will clarify for both just what a Gee is worth.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN, SHERMAN?!

[Benjamin Grimm]

My guess is that it's this: "2. Or is it that the Giants don't want to trade for Gee until they know Shields is no longer an option for them?"

[Ceetar]

My guess is that it's this: "2. Or is it that the Giants don't want to trade for Gee until they know Shields is no longer an option for them?"

Some mumblings about how the Mets should sign Shields. Hell, if it bumps up the value for Gee it's even better.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I don't imagine that they're going to do that, but if they do, then they'll also probably want to trade Niese or Colon in addition to Gee.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah, 2. I think Sherm says the Giants like Gee but might not get him if Shields comes to them at the right price. If Shields goes and signs with some other club, Giants get hotter for G.

I don;t think the Mets want or need Shields.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah, 2. I think Sherm says the Giants like Gee but might not get him if Shields comes to them at the right price. If Shields goes and signs with some other club, Giants get hotter for G. I don;t think the Mets want or need Shields.

It's just one of the creative solutions people are so drawn to. The idea being if you can't upgrade SS/offense, upgrade run prevention (which also makes bad defense up the middle less damaging?) . And also hoard even more arms in a supply and demand sense. Now you're dealing from an even bigger position of strength when demanding a SS.

It's not a horrible one, does seem unlikely though.

[nymr83]

The only problem with that idea is that you are probably degrading the trade value of any non-prospect age pitcher who you yank from the rotation because clubs dont get recent tape of him pitching every 5th day and coming out of the pen isnt the same.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I like the Shields/Scherzer idea, frankly. At this point, I'd probably rather slightly overpay in money for one of them than overpay in money/prospects for one of the flawed shortstop options out there.

Waylon Flowers and Kenny think others may be in on the Gee-stakes.

[Gwreck]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I like the Shields/Scherzer idea, frankly. At this point, I'd probably rather slightly overpay in money for one of them than overpay in money/prospects for one of the flawed shortstop options out there.

There's a lot of logic here. I worry a lot less about Flores' defense if Scherzer is striking out 12 batters a game.

In all seriousness, there's a LOT of logic to signing Scherzer. Get the best available player (especially in a year when our first round pick has been lost) and worry about having too many starters later.

[Edgy MD]

Happy G-Day Minus 6-9.

[Vic Sage]

it's never a bad idea to get a great player if you think he still has more future greatness in him.

[Edgy MD]

Five-eight more days of Geeness. Use it wisely!

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I don't think we'll decorate this year, but I'll be happy just so long as my neighbors don't leave their Gee strings up again all January.

[Frayed Knot]

NY Post -- The Giants, Padres and Rockies have all been mentioned as potential landing spots for the right-hander, but
a source indicated at least one AL team has shown interest.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

three to six days left!

[Centerfield]

It pisses me off that they look to be just dumping Gee. He is not an All-Star, but he is a serviceable starter, and not a piece to be discarded.

I hope that they really are getting something back and not just looking to unload salary.

[Edgy MD]

You'll find out in two-five days!

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

If they were dumping him expressly for salary purposes, it would have been done by now, no?

[ashie62]

Still believe Gee will be a Met.

[batmagadanleadoff]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: If they were dumping him expressly for salary purposes, it would have been done by now, no?

Not necessarily. First of all, baseball's still in that off-season period where teams don't have to pay their players. So if the Mets truly are over budget, they still won't feel that pinch. Also, even if the Mets are looking to trade Gee for a player who'll make close to the minimum, if even that, they still want to obtain the best player possible, even if circumstances limit their options. Also, assuming the Mets need to reduce their current payroll level, their salary dump might not necessarily be evident simply from their pending Gee trade. We'll need to look at all of their upcoming trades in totality to determine whether they might be dumping salary. It might be easier to simply look at their payroll a few months from now to come to any conclusions.

[Ceetar]

If it was strictly about payroll reduction I'm unsure of why they'd sign Cuddyer instead of just trading Gee, whenever that is, for an OFer? I mean hell, there's probably a Cuddyer type player out there that someone would offload for Gee.

[Edgy MD]

Bring on Dexter Fowler!

[Edgy MD]

The problem with Geetrading is that the signing of Scherzer was supposed to tighten up the pitching market as teams rush after next-best options. But by Scherzer signing with an already pitching-rich team, it ends up likely sending somebody (possibly Jordan Zimmerman) into the trade market to compete with Gee.

[Guest sharpie]

However, with Ryan Vogelsong going to the 'Stros, then the Giants have a real need to find another starter and that is one of the teams to which Gee seems to be mentioned in the same breath as.

[Edgy MD]

Down to 0-3 days! This could happen today!

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Zero to 2 days left!

[Guest d'Kong76]

[ashie62]

Yes, pack for St. Lucie.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

It's getting so close to happening or not happening or not happening for right now!