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d'Kong76 wrote:
Tampering, schmapering...
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/joe-maddon-agent-says-tampering-charge-sad-and-insulting/2204793


first contact was an email asking them to prove their was an opt out? That's sorta out of the blue if you hadn't mentioned to them that there was an opt out right?

Sounds to me like everyone knew he was opting out with enough time to discuss it internally in preparation of him actually exercising the opt out. And asking for the contract terms is basically them saying "Hey, yeah, we're interested."


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Yeah, I don't think anything will come of it. Slow
news day/week.


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Ceetar's crushing it on the they're/there/there distinctions today. Like he's a giant Russian hockey player checking English into the boards. Fock yoo, standardized written Eeenglish! I keel you!!


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Edgy MD wrote:
Ceetar's crushing it on the they're/there/there distinctions today. Like he's a giant Russian hockey player checking English into the boards. Fock yoo, standardized written Eeenglish! I keel you!!


I haven't had coffee in 2 weeks and I'm lazy and bored at work today. proofreading? bah.


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Sorry to bust your balls. I shouldn't have interrupted when you were on the verge of a hat trick.

Good luck quitting the joe.


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Why are you quitting coffee?


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Edgy MD wrote:
Sorry to bust your balls. I shouldn't have interrupted when you were on the verge of a hat trick.

Good luck quitting the joe.


its alright. it's no worse then anything else. they're are worse crimes.

d'Kong76 wrote:
Why are you quitting coffee?


more of a detox. I hate routine, and i hate that my morning required that I find and consume coffee. Caffeine doesn't have a huge effect on me, at least not consciously, but I was concerned it might be making me more jittery, a poorer sleeper, and perhaps even mentally fuzzy. Seems like most of those concerns were unfounded though, I just feel like i could use a cup of coffee and all the physical addiction factors should be gone by now. But I'd still rather it not dictate my morning, so I'm trying to break the mental routine of "Hey, i'm sitting at my desk in front of the computer and am tired of just water, what's another 0-calorie drink I could have?" that led to me guzzling the stuff.


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I need to cut down on how much I have at once.


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Only the Tampa job remains open. Maybe they'll hire Rich Renteria?

TEAMMANAGERSIGNED THRUSTATUS
METSTerry Collins2015 + option for '16
BRAVESFredi Gonzalez2015
PHILLIESRyne Sandberg2016 + option for '17
NATIONALSMatt Williams2015 + options for �16 + �17
MARLINSMike Redmond2015Extended through 2017
CARDINALSMike Matheny2017
PIRATESClint Hurdle2017 + option for �18
CUBS[crossout]Rick Renteria[/crossout]Fired Oct 31Hired Joe Maddon for 2015 - 2019
REDSBryan Price2016
BREWERSRon Roenicke2015 + option for �16
DODGERSDon Mattingly2016
GIANTSBruce Bochy2016
PADRESBud Black2015
DBACKS[crossout]Kirk Gibson[/crossout]2014 -- Fired, Sept 2014Chip Hale hired for 2015-16
ROCKIESWalt Weiss2016
RED SOXJohn Farrell2016
YANKEESJoe Girardi2017
ORIOLESBuck Showalter2018
BLUE JAYSJohn Gibbons2015 + option for �16
RAYS[crossout]Joe Maddon[/crossout]Mgr Opted out of contract's final year????
TIGERSBrad Ausmus2016 + option for �17
INDIANSTerry Francona2016Extended thru 2018 w/options for '19 + '20
ROYALSNed Yost2015
TWINS[crossout]Ron Gardenhire[/crossout]Fired - Sept '14Hired Paul Molitor - 2015-2017
WHITE SOXRobin Ventura2014
ANGELSMike Scioscia2018
RANGERS[crossout]Ron Washington[/crossout]Resigned Sept 2014Hired Jeff Banister - 2015-17 + '18 option
MARINERSLloyd McClendon201?
ASTROS[crossout]Bo Porter[/crossout]Fired Sept 2014AJ Hinch - Hired Sept 2014
ATHLETICSBob Melvin2016


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When I heard that Madden had officially signed (WCBS? WFAN?) the reporter also said that Renteria was offered a different job in the Cubs organization. No word on whether he accepted it.

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And now with Tampa's hiring of former big league catcher and, more recently, Cleveland bullpen coach Kevin Cash, MLB has a complete set of managers heading into the 2015 season

TEAMMANAGERSIGNED THRUSTATUS
METSTerry Collins2015 + option for '16
BRAVESFredi Gonzalez2015
PHILLIESRyne Sandberg2016 + option for '17
NATIONALSMatt Williams2015 + options for �16 + �17
MARLINSMike Redmond2015Extended through 2017
CARDINALSMike Matheny2017
PIRATESClint Hurdle2017 + option for �18
CUBS[crossout]Rick Renteria[/crossout]Fired Oct 31Hired Joe Maddon for 2015 - 2019
REDSBryan Price2016
BREWERSRon Roenicke2015 + option for �16
DODGERSDon Mattingly2016
GIANTSBruce Bochy2016
PADRESBud Black2015
DBACKS[crossout]Kirk Gibson[/crossout]2014 -- Fired, Sept 2014Chip Hale hired for 2015-16
ROCKIESWalt Weiss2016
RED SOXJohn Farrell2016
YANKEESJoe Girardi2017
ORIOLESBuck Showalter2018
BLUE JAYSJohn Gibbons2015 + option for �16
RAYS[crossout]Joe Maddon[/crossout]Mgr Opted out of contract's final yearDec 2014 - Hired Kevin Cash
TIGERSBrad Ausmus2016 + option for �17
INDIANSTerry Francona2016Extended thru 2018 w/options for '19 + '20
ROYALSNed Yost2015
TWINS[crossout]Ron Gardenhire[/crossout]Fired - Sept '14Hired Paul Molitor - 2015-2017
WHITE SOXRobin Ventura2014
ANGELSMike Scioscia2018
RANGERS[crossout]Ron Washington[/crossout]Resigned Sept 2014Hired Jeff Banister - 2015-17 + '18 option
MARINERSLloyd McClendon201?
ASTROS[crossout]Bo Porter[/crossout]Fired Sept 2014AJ Hinch - Hired Sept 2014
ATHLETICSBob Melvin2016


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Scoscia, Black, Bochy, Showalter and Yost have been with their teams longer than Collins.

Terry is among of several managers who started in the 2011 season: his peers in seniority are Fredi Gonzalez with Atlanta, Roenicke, Melvin and Mattingly.

(And yes, it is true that of those long-tenured managers, only Black and Collins haven't been to the playoffs since the start of the 2011 season).


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I'll take the NL East, of whom Gonazalez is the dean, by about five weeks.

TEAMMANAGERSIGNED THRUSTATUSHired
METSTerry Collins2015 + option for '1611/23/2010
BRAVESFredi Gonzalez201510/13/2010
PHILLIESRyne Sandberg2016 + option for '178/16/2013
NATIONALSMatt Williams2015 + options for �16 + �1710/13/2013
MARLINSMike Redmond2015Extended through 201711/1/2012
CARDINALSMike Matheny2017
PIRATESClint Hurdle2017 + option for �18
CUBS[crossout]Rick Renteria[/crossout]Fired Oct 31Hired Joe Maddon for 2015 - 2019
REDSBryan Price2016
BREWERSRon Roenicke2015 + option for �16
DODGERSDon Mattingly2016
GIANTSBruce Bochy2016
PADRESBud Black2015
DBACKS[crossout]Kirk Gibson[/crossout]2014 -- Fired, Sept 2014Chip Hale hired for 2015-16
ROCKIESWalt Weiss2016
RED SOXJohn Farrell2016
YANKEESJoe Girardi2017
ORIOLESBuck Showalter2018
BLUE JAYSJohn Gibbons2015 + option for �16
RAYS[crossout]Joe Maddon[/crossout]Mgr Opted out of contract's final yearDec 2014 - Hired Kevin Cash
TIGERSBrad Ausmus2016 + option for �17
INDIANSTerry Francona2016Extended thru 2018 w/options for '19 + '20
ROYALSNed Yost2015
TWINS[crossout]Ron Gardenhire[/crossout]Fired - Sept '14Hired Paul Molitor - 2015-2017
WHITE SOXRobin Ventura2014
ANGELSMike Scioscia2018
RANGERS[crossout]Ron Washington[/crossout]Resigned Sept 2014Hired Jeff Banister - 2015-17 + '18 option
MARINERSLloyd McClendon201?
ASTROS[crossout]Bo Porter[/crossout]Fired Sept 2014AJ Hinch - Hired Sept 2014
ATHLETICSBob Melvin2016


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TEAMMANAGERSIGNED THRUSTATUSHired
METSTerry Collins2015 + option for '1611/23/2010
BRAVESFredi Gonzalez201510/13/2010
PHILLIESRyne Sandberg2016 + option for '178/16/2013
NATIONALSMatt Williams2015 + options for �16 + �1710/13/2013
MARLINSMike Redmond2015Extended through 201711/1/2012
CARDINALSMike Matheny2017
PIRATESClint Hurdle2017 + option for �18
CUBS[crossout]Rick Renteria[/crossout]Fired Oct 31Hired Joe Maddon for 2015 - 2019
REDSBryan Price2016
BREWERSRon Roenicke2015 + option for �16
DODGERSDon Mattingly2016
GIANTSBruce Bochy2016
PADRESBud Black2015
DBACKS[crossout]Kirk Gibson[/crossout]2014 -- Fired, Sept 2014Chip Hale hired for 2015-16
ROCKIESWalt Weiss2016
RED SOXJohn Farrell2016
YANKEESJoe Girardi2017
ORIOLESBuck Showalter2018
BLUE JAYSJohn Gibbons2015 + option for �16
RAYS[crossout]Joe Maddon[/crossout]Mgr Opted out of contract's final yearDec 2014 - Hired Kevin Cash
TIGERSBrad Ausmus2016 + option for �17
INDIANSTerry Francona2016Extended thru 2018 w/options for '19 + '20
ROYALSNed Yost2015
TWINS[crossout]Ron Gardenhire[/crossout]Fired - Sept '14Hired Paul Molitor - 2015-2017
WHITE SOXRobin Ventura2014
ANGELSMike Scioscia2018Nov 1999
RANGERS[crossout]Ron Washington[/crossout]Resigned Sept 2014Hired Jeff Banister - 2015-17 + '18 option10/17/2014
MARINERSLloyd McClendon201?11/7/2013
ASTROS[crossout]Bo Porter[/crossout]Fired Sept 2014AJ Hinch - Hired Sept 20149/29/2014
ATHLETICSBob Melvin20166/9/2011


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So pre-Terry hires include:
Clint Hurlde - one week
Ron Roenicke - two weeks
Fredi Gonzlez - one month
Don Mattingly - two months
Buck Showalter - four months
Ned Yost - six months
Joe Girardi - three years
Bruce Bochy & Bud Black - four years
and Mike Scioscia - eleven years


TEAMMANAGERSIGNED THRUSTATUSHired
METSTerry Collins2015 + option for '1611/23/2010
BRAVESFredi Gonzalez201510/13/2010
PHILLIESRyne Sandberg2016 + option for '178/16/2013
NATIONALSMatt Williams2015 + options for �16 + �1710/13/2013
MARLINSMike Redmond2015=#FF0000]Extended through 201711/1/2012
CARDINALSMike Matheny201711/20/2013
PIRATESClint Hurdle2017 + option for �1811/15/2010
CUBS[crossout]Rick Renteria[/crossout]=#FF0000]Fired Oct 31=#FF0000]Hired Joe Maddon for 2015 - 201910/31/2014
REDSBryan Price201610/22/2013
BREWERSRon Roenicke2015 + option for �1611/4/2010
DODGERSDon Mattingly20169/17/2010
GIANTSBruce Bochy2016Oct 2006
PADRESBud Black2015Nov 2006
DBACKS[crossout]Kirk Gibson[/crossout]2014 -- =#FF0000]Fired, Sept 2014=#FF0000]Chip Hale hired for 2015-1610/13/2014
ROCKIESWalt Weiss201611/7/2012
RED SOXJohn Farrell201610/20/2012
YANKEESJoe Girardi201710/30/2007
ORIOLESBuck Showalter20187/28/2010
BLUE JAYSJohn Gibbons2015 + option for �1611/20/2012
RAYS[crossout]Joe Maddon[/crossout]=#FF0000]Mgr Opted out of contract's final year=#FF0000]Dec 2014 - Hired Kevin Cash12/04/2014
TIGERSBrad Ausmus2016 + option for �1711/4/2013
INDIANSTerry Francona2016=#FF0000]Extended thru 2018 w/options for '19 + �2010/8/2012
ROYALSNed Yost20155/13/2010
TWINS[crossout]Ron Gardenhire[/crossout]=#FF0000]Fired - Sept '14=#FF0000]Hired Paul Molitor - 2015-201711/4/2014
WHITE SOXRobin Ventura201410/6/2011
ANGELSMike Scioscia201811/17/1999
RANGERS[crossout]Ron Washington[/crossout]=#FF0000]Resigned Sept 2014=#FF0000]Hired Jeff Banister - 2015-17 + '18 option10/17/2014
MARINERSLloyd McClendon201?11/7/2013
ASTROS[crossout]Bo Porter[/crossout]=#FF0000]Fired Sept 2014=#FF0000]AJ Hinch - Hired Sept 20149/29/2014
ATHLETICSBob Melvin20166/9/2011


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Couple of managers get some pre-season votes of confidence from their clubs.
Funny how things work in Boston sometimes: Bobby V finishes last - gets fired. Terry Francona finishes last - Gets fired. John Farrell finishes last - gets his contract extended.


TEAMMANAGERSIGNED THRUSTATUSHired
METSTerry Collins2015 + option for '1611/23/2010
BRAVESFredi Gonzalez201510/13/2010
PHILLIESRyne Sandberg2016 + option for '178/16/2013
NATIONALSMatt Williams2015 + options for �16 + �17Option for 2016 picked up10/13/2013
MARLINSMike Redmond2015Extended through 201711/1/2012
CARDINALSMike Matheny201711/20/2013
PIRATESClint Hurdle2017 + option for �1811/15/2010
CUBS[crossout]Rick Renteria[/crossout]Fired Oct 31Hired Joe Maddon for 2015 - 201910/31/2014
REDSBryan Price201610/22/2013
BREWERSRon Roenicke2015 + option for �1611/4/2010
DODGERSDon Mattingly20169/17/2010
GIANTSBruce Bochy2016Oct 2006
PADRESBud Black2015Nov 2006
DBACKS[crossout]Kirk Gibson[/crossout]2014 -- Fired, Sept 2014Chip Hale hired for 2015-1610/13/2014
ROCKIESWalt Weiss201611/7/2012
RED SOXJohn Farrell2016Extended thru 201710/20/2012
YANKEESJoe Girardi201710/30/2007
ORIOLESBuck Showalter20187/28/2010
BLUE JAYSJohn Gibbons2015 + option for �1611/20/2012
RAYS[crossout]Joe Maddon[/crossout]Mgr Opted out of contract's final yearDec 2014 - Hired Kevin Cash12/04/2014
TIGERSBrad Ausmus2016 + option for �1711/4/2013
INDIANSTerry Francona2016Extended thru 2018 w/options for '19 + �2010/8/2012
ROYALSNed Yost20155/13/2010
TWINS[crossout]Ron Gardenhire[/crossout]Fired - Sept '14Hired Paul Molitor - 2015-201711/4/2014
WHITE SOXRobin Ventura201410/6/2011
ANGELSMike Scioscia201811/17/1999
RANGERS[crossout]Ron Washington[/crossout]Resigned Sept 2014Hired Jeff Banister - 2015-17 + '18 option10/17/2014
MARINERSLloyd McClendon201?11/7/2013
ASTROS[crossout]Bo Porter[/crossout]Fired Sept 2014AJ Hinch - Hired Sept 20149/29/2014
ATHLETICSBob Melvin20166/9/2011


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TEAMMANAGERSIGNED THRUSTATUSHired
METSTerry Collins2015 + option for '1611/23/2010
BRAVESFredi Gonzalez201510/13/2010
PHILLIESRyne Sandberg2016 + option for '178/16/2013
NATIONALSMatt Williams2015 + options for �16 + �17Option for 2016 picked up10/13/2013
MARLINSMike Redmond2015Extended through 201711/1/2012
CARDINALSMike Matheny201711/20/2013
PIRATESClint Hurdle2017 + option for �1811/15/2010
CUBS[crossout]Rick Renteria[/crossout]Fired Oct 31Hired Joe Maddon for 2015 - 201910/31/2014
REDSBryan Price201610/22/2013
BREWERSRon Roenicke2015 + option for �16Option for 2016 picked up11/4/2010
DODGERSDon Mattingly20169/17/2010
GIANTSBruce Bochy2016Oct 2006
PADRESBud Black2015Nov 2006
DBACKS[crossout]Kirk Gibson[/crossout]2014 -- Fired, Sept 2014Chip Hale hired for 2015-1610/13/2014
ROCKIESWalt Weiss201611/7/2012
RED SOXJohn Farrell2016Extended thru 201710/20/2012
YANKEESJoe Girardi201710/30/2007
ORIOLESBuck Showalter20187/28/2010
BLUE JAYSJohn Gibbons2015 + option for �1611/20/2012
RAYS[crossout]Joe Maddon[/crossout]Mgr Opted out of contract's final yearDec 2014 - Hired Kevin Cash12/04/2014
TIGERSBrad Ausmus2016 + option for �1711/4/2013
INDIANSTerry Francona2016Extended thru 2018 w/options for '19 + �2010/8/2012
ROYALSNed Yost20155/13/2010
TWINS[crossout]Ron Gardenhire[/crossout]Fired - Sept '14Hired Paul Molitor - 2015-201711/4/2014
WHITE SOXRobin Ventura201410/6/2011
ANGELSMike Scioscia201811/17/1999
RANGERS[crossout]Ron Washington[/crossout]Resigned Sept 2014Hired Jeff Banister - 2015-17 + '18 option10/17/2014
MARINERSLloyd McClendon201?11/7/2013
ASTROS[crossout]Bo Porter[/crossout]Fired Sept 2014AJ Hinch - Hired Sept 20149/29/2014
ATHLETICSBob Melvin20166/9/2011


The Twins (Paul Molitor) vs Phils (Ryne Sandberg) ST game today was the first time that HoF players have faced off against each other as managers.
Surprising, to me anyway, that this has apparently never happened in the regular season before - and won't this year either with no Philly/Minny games on the sked.
Maybe next year if both survive that long.


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I imagine future Hall of Fame players have faced off against each other. And certainly guys who would have been in the Hall of Fame as players had it existed have faced off against each other.

Trying to find an overlooked precedent. Ted Williams faced Bob Lemon, but before Lemon joined the Hall of Fame. Bob Lemon faced Frank Robinson, but before Robbie joined the Hall of Fame.


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So the last update on this chart was for the Brewers picking up manager Ron Roenicke's option for 2016. But that's not looking like such a smart business move right now as the Brewers canned Roenicke on Sunday night just 25 games into the season.

It's almost hard to remember now that the Beermakers were as much as 5-1/2 games in 1st place in mid-June of the '14 season. But, between the 2nd half of last season and the early part of this one, they're 38-64 since July 1st, 16-35 since September 1st, and 7-18 this year.
Former Brewer (and Rockie, and Marlin, and DBack, and Dodger) Craig Counsell is expected to be named as the replacement. He's been in the Milwaukee front office although has no managing or even coaching experience.

TEAMMANAGERSIGNED THRUSTATUSHired
METSTerry Collins2015 + option for '1611/23/2010
BRAVESFredi Gonzalez201510/13/2010
PHILLIESRyne Sandberg2016 + option for '178/16/2013
NATIONALSMatt Williams2015 + options for �16 + �17Option for 2016 picked up10/13/2013
MARLINSMike Redmond2015Extended through 201711/1/2012
CARDINALSMike Matheny201711/20/2013
PIRATESClint Hurdle2017 + option for �1811/15/2010
CUBSJoe Maddon201910/31/2014
REDSBryan Price201610/22/2013
BREWERSRon Roenicke2015 + option for �16Option for 2016 picked up - Fired 5/3/1511/4/2010
DODGERSDon Mattingly20169/17/2010
GIANTSBruce Bochy2016Oct 2006
PADRESBud Black2015Nov 2006
DBACKSChip Hale201610/13/2014
ROCKIESWalt Weiss201611/7/2012
RED SOXJohn Farrell2016Extended thru 201710/20/2012
YANKEESJoe Girardi201710/30/2007
ORIOLESBuck Showalter20187/28/2010
BLUE JAYSJohn Gibbons2015 + option for �1611/20/2012
RAYSKevin Cash12/04/2014
TIGERSBrad Ausmus2016 + option for �1711/4/2013
INDIANSTerry Francona2016Extended thru 2018 w/options for '19 + �2010/8/2012
ROYALSNed Yost20155/13/2010
TWINSPaul Molitor201711/4/2014
WHITE SOXRobin Ventura201410/6/2011
ANGELSMike Scioscia201811/17/1999
RANGERSJeff Banister201710/17/2014
MARINERSLloyd McClendon201?11/7/2013
ASTROSAJ Hinch9/29/2014
ATHLETICSBob Melvin20166/9/2011


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Frayed Knot wrote:
So the last update on this chart was for the Brewers picking up manager Ron Roenicke's option for 2016. But that's not looking like such a smart business move right now as the Brewers canned Roenicke on Sunday night just 25 games into the season.


And I had the over.

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MLB, still keeping the Black man down after all these years

TEAMMANAGERSIGNED THRUSTATUSHired
METSTerry Collins2015 + option for '1611/23/2010
BRAVESFredi Gonzalez201510/13/2010
PHILLIESRyne Sandberg2016 + option for '178/16/2013
NATIONALSMatt Williams2015 + options for �16 + �17Option for 2016 picked up10/13/2013
MARLINSMike Redmond2015Extended through 201711/1/2012
CARDINALSMike Matheny201711/20/2013
PIRATESClint Hurdle2017 + option for �1811/15/2010
CUBSJoe Maddon201910/31/2014
REDSBryan Price201610/22/2013
BREWERSRon Roenicke2015 + option for �16Option for 2016 picked up - Fired 5/3/1511/4/2010
DODGERSDon Mattingly20169/17/2010
GIANTSBruce Bochy2016Oct 2006
PADRESBud Black2015Fired 6/15 - Dave Roberts promotedNov 2006
DBACKSChip Hale201610/13/2014
ROCKIESWalt Weiss201611/7/2012
RED SOXJohn Farrell2016Extended thru 201710/20/2012
YANKEESJoe Girardi201710/30/2007
ORIOLESBuck Showalter20187/28/2010
BLUE JAYSJohn Gibbons2015 + option for �1611/20/2012
RAYSKevin Cash201912/04/2014
TIGERSBrad Ausmus2016 + option for �1711/4/2013
INDIANSTerry Francona2016Extended thru 2018 w/options for '19 + �2010/8/2012
ROYALSNed Yost20155/13/2010
TWINSPaul Molitor201711/4/2014
WHITE SOXRobin Ventura201410/6/2011
ANGELSMike Scioscia201811/17/1999
RANGERSJeff Banister201710/17/2014
MARINERSLloyd McClendon201?11/7/2013
ASTROSAJ Hinch2017 + '18 option9/29/2014
ATHLETICSBob Melvin20166/9/2011


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