2013 IPP: Matt Harvey

[Benjamin Grimm]

What do we expect from Matt Harvey this year?

I think there will be some struggles, but overall a decent year. 180 innings, 3.60 ERA, 12-11 record.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Mike Francessa l-o-v-e-s this Escalade-driving, smug-faced douchebag. And he'll lead the Mets in wins, Ks, innings pitched and hit batsmen.

13-9, 3.93, 180/80 in 180 IP.

[Zvon]

If all goes according to my plan: 15-7 / 174k / 3.74 era

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

30 starts, 192 IP, 12-10, 3.70 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 197 K, 72 BB

[Vic Sage]

he'll be the best starter in the rotation; 12-8 / 180ip/ 3.6 era

[MFS62]

15-6, 3.34, 170 IP (they may limit him) 185K.
All Star.

Later

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

MFS62 wrote: 15-6, 3.34, 170 IP (they may limit him) 185K. All Star. Later

I like this!

[ashie62]

17 wins..leads league in K's

[smg58]

I'll be the optimist here: 200 IP, 17-10, 3.00 ERA, 220 Ks. The team MVP.

[Guest vtmet]

I thought that wins (for pitchers), runs/RBI (for batters) were "team" stats and the individual player/batter has no bearing on these outcomes...

.300 BABIP;
3.5 WAR;
40 % GB:FB ratio;
9+ K/9;
3.5 BB/9;
3.5 FIP;
190 innings pitched;
30 starts;

[nymr83]

smg58 wrote: I'll be the optimist here: 200 IP, 17-10, 3.00 ERA, 220 Ks. The team MVP.

You won't out-optimist me! 205 innings, 15-11 (hey, the team will still suck), 2.80 ERA, 215K's

[Lefty Specialist]

He'll have a good year but be doomed by a weak offense and an unhelpful bullpen.

11-9, 3.50 180 IP/170K

[Edgy MD]

vtmet wrote: I thought that wins (for pitchers), runs/RBI (for batters) were "team" stats and the individual player/batter has no bearing on these outcomes...

According to whom? Of course they have a bearing. These numbers are just deceptively circumstantially dependent, doesn't mean he or she doesn't have a big part in obtaining them, but players can only capitalize on the opportunities they are given, and these aren't equal.

[Vic Sage]

straw man much?

You don't discredit a demonstrable statistical truth by tarring it with absurd absolutes. Nobody but an idiot says a pitcher has "no bearing" on wins or a hitter on RBIs. What we've learned is that those, like many other, stats are more context-dependent than past observers of the game have been willing to admit to, and that there are other statistics that are better able to measure individual achievement in a team sport than are "wins" or "RBI".

[Guest vtmet]

Edgy MD wrote: vtmet wrote: I thought that wins (for pitchers), runs/RBI (for batters) were "team" stats and the individual player/batter has no bearing on these outcomes... According to whom? Of course they have a bearing. These numbers are just deceptively circumstantially dependent, doesn't mean he or she doesn't have a big part in obtaining them, but players can only capitalize on the opportunities they are given, and these aren't equal.

I was just being a wise-guy...I've been to a few sites over the recent years that will quote all the saber stats like every one is common knowledge, and then act like players have no bearing on wins, losses, runs and RBI...

[Lefty Specialist]

Edgy MD wrote: vtmet wrote: I thought that wins (for pitchers), runs/RBI (for batters) were "team" stats and the individual player/batter has no bearing on these outcomes... According to whom? Of course they have a bearing. These numbers are just deceptively circumstantially dependent, doesn't mean he or she doesn't have a big part in obtaining them, but players can only capitalize on the opportunities they are given, and these aren't equal.

She? Did I miss something?

[Edgy MD]

Mets signed Jenny Finch. You must've been ooffline.

[Guest vtmet]

Edgy MD wrote: Mets signed Jenny Finch. You must've been ooffline.

Did you catch the "Who's gonna be the next Knuckleballer" series?

They had this 15 year old girl mowing down the adult males with her nasty knuckler...pretty sure Kevin Millar was one of the guys that she made look foolish with her pitching...

When they talked to her, they found out that her little league coach was the late Joe Niekro...and he taught her how to throw it...this isn't her pitching, but a couple little story about the Joe Niekro & Chelsea Baker connection...the youtube videos are from 2010,

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She's also been honored by the Baseball Hall of Fame:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/e60/news/story?id=5468795
Hall of Fame honors Chelsea Baker
Updated: August 16, 2010, 6:21 PM ET
By Ben Houser | ESPN

COOPERSTOWN, N.Y. -- A 13-year-old girl knuckleball pitcher who has thrown two perfect games against Little League boys teams was honored Monday by the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum. Chelsea Baker of Plant City, Fla., donated the Brandon Farms jersey she wore in her April 9 perfect game to the Hall of Fame as an artifact noting the importance of women playing baseball. Her jersey joins one in the hall worn by another young female knuckleballer, Eri Yoshida, 18, whose play in the pro Golden Baseball League also earned her the honor this year. [+] Enlarge Christina Houser Photography Chelsea Baker's uniform goes into the Hall of Fame. Baker's jersey will be on display in the Today's Game exhibit before moving eventually to the Diamond Dreams exhibit for the rest of the year. "There are no words to describe how happy I was when I found out they wanted to put my jersey in the Baseball Hall of Fame," said Baker, the subject of an ESPN E:60 feature story last month. The museum accepts about 400 artifacts a year from all levels of baseball, including the major leagues. Another female little leaguer, Katie Brownell, donated her jersey to the hall after she threw a perfect game in 2005. "When you look at women in baseball, we thought this was a significant enough contribution that needed to be included in the Baseball Hall of Fame," said Jeff Idelson, president of the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum, of Baker's perfect games. "This is a young girl from Plant City, Fla., who under the counsel of a great major leaguer Joe Niekro, was able to learn a knuckleball and then she was able to take that knowledge and apply it. "She had two perfect games, she showed you don't have to be a male to compete successfully, and she holds a flag for all girls in this country that, yeah you can be a girl and succeed in baseball." Baker pitched her first perfect game during an All-Star Game last year. She predicted she'd throw the second one just before she did so this year. She learned how to pitch the knuckleball from Niekro, who perfected it during a long pro career. "I think Coach Joe would be so proud of me and happy that his knuckleball got me this far," Baker said. "I wish he was here today to share this moment with me." Baker finished the 2010 season with an unblemished record, the fourth straight year with no losses. This month, she was awarded the key to her hometown and threw out the first pitch for the New York Yankees minor league affiliate, the Tampa Yankees. Her family has received multiple movie pitches to tell her story. Baker's Little League team lost in the sectional round of the Little League World Series, so for now, she is playing with an all-girls team, the Sparks. She was scheduled pitch Monday night at Dreams Park. The honor of being affiliated with the National Hall of Fame is not lost on Baker: "All I could think about is all the professional players, like Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth and Jackie Robinson, and me being next to them in the Hall of Fame is amazing."

[batmagadanleadoff]

From Baseball Prospectus 2013:

Harvey made his much anticipated debut in 2012 and did not disappoint, posting strikeout numbers that border on ridiculous for a rookie starter, including 11 whiffs in 5 1/3 innings in his first game. He comes over the top with heat that averages 95 and has the ability to leave the pitch up in the zone without getting hurt, as his fastball managed a whiff rate on par with those of Gio Gonzalez and Neftali Feliz. The future is not only bright, it is now.

[smg58]

Nymr83 wrote: I'll be the optimist here: 200 IP, 17-10, 3.00 ERA, 220 Ks. The team MVP. You won't out-optimist me! 205 innings, 15-11 (hey, the team will still suck), 2.80 ERA, 215K's

We both may wind up looking very cynical when all is said and done.