The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

[MFS62]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: first place O's

And leading off tonight for those first place O's was Endy Chavez. (hitting .109)

Later

[MFS62]

Don't know if there's a thread for the new Clemens trial, but ...
Lying fuckers:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/andy-pettitte-helps-roger-clemens-backpedals-streroids-case.html
Both of them.
Later

[Ceetar]

Mariano with some knee strain. nothing a dose of HGH doesn't solve I imagine.

[metirish]

MFS62 wrote: Don't know if there's a thread for the new Clemens trial, but ... Lying fuckers: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/andy-pettitte-helps-roger-clemens-backpedals-streroids-case.html Both of them. Later

scumbags the both of them.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: Mariano with some knee strain. nothing a dose of HGH doesn't solve I imagine.

Guy's 42 years old. Was shagging flies before the game when his knee bucked and went flat on his back.

Near home plate, teammate Alex Rodriguez could be seen reacting to the scene in the outfield, saying ''Oh, my God. Oh, my God.''

This is about to get real interesting. I guess that scuz they got from the Rays is the new closer.

[Fman99]

Throw him in his own pool, he's done.

[HahnSolo]

metirish wrote: Don't know if there's a thread for the new Clemens trial, but ... Lying fuckers: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/andy-pettitte-helps-roger-clemens-backpedals-streroids-case.html Both of them. Later scumbags the both of them.

I agree with the scumbags part, but I thought all along that this case will hinge on how believable McNamee is.

[metirish]

Fman99 wrote: Throw him in his own pool, he's done.

dying over here....which is better than dying over there..

[Guest themetfairy]

Fman99 wrote: Throw him in his own pool, he's done.

Revenge is a dish best served fried?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Torn ACL.

Plus they just became the first team to lose to to the Royals in KC this year.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Torn ACL.

Shocking.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: Mariano with some knee strain. nothing a dose of HGH doesn't solve I imagine. Guy's 42 years old. Was shagging flies before the game when his knee bucked and went flat on his back.

As a speaker of British/Australian English, 'shagging fly balls' has always sounded like a bad idea.

[Ceetar]

I've actually been looking forward to this for a while. Now despite the Yankees having relievers just as effective over the last couple of years, they get to panic and judge and hate their closer and call for his head when he blows the first one.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Old Hoss Radbourn ? @OldHossRadbourn Like M. Rivera, I too was forced to retire from base ball due to an injury acquired whilst shagging. Mine of course was syphilis.

[MFS62]

If Joe Torre dies in the next few days, will it mean that he really did have a pact with the Devil?

Later

[Frayed Knot]

David Robertson - the obvious choice to slide into the 9th inning role - has been pretty damn good, essentially throwing to an ERA of 1.00 since the beginning of 2011, a span covering nearly 80 innings.

Where losing your closer really hurts (for anyone really but especially so in this case) isn't that the 9th innings will suddenly become disasters, but that now some lesser light has to move in and cover Robertson's innings and on down the chain.
Yanx have a 137-to-86 starter to reliever innings ratio through 25 games: IOW, their starters are covering just 61% of the innings (AL avg = 66%) so things were already a bit tight. Last night they had to press David Phelps into a start because of the failures of Freddie Garcia. Phelps was a starter in the minors but not a particularly top-flight one and, while he wasn't bad last night, he went through a ton of pitches before having to be pulled after four IP.

Bottom line is that losing Rivera, as valuable as he is by himself, hurts more because it's another brick in the cumulative set of problems the Yanqui staff has going on.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Bottom line is that losing Rivera, as valuable as he is by himself, hurts more because it's another brick in the cumulative set of problems the Yanqui staff has going on.

Right. I haven't paid a ton of attention but I don't think the back end of that bullpen is particularly good. Robertson was arguably better than Rivera over the last years or so, despite the whole 'proven closer' thing. I'm looking forward to the panic involved over that idea and if Robertson dares to have a shaky outing soon (which he's probably due for too since no one's perfect).

[Edgy MD]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Old Hoss Radbourn ? @OldHossRadbourn Like M. Rivera, I too was forced to retire from base ball due to an injury acquired whilst shagging. Mine of course was syphilis.

Wait. Have I missed this? Rivera hasn't come out and announced his retirement, has he, Hoss?

[seawolf17]

They can have Francisco if they want.

[Frayed Knot]

I'm looking forward to the panic involved over that idea and if Robertson dares to have a shaky outing soon (which he's probably due for too since no one's perfect).

Especially from those raised in the Mike Francesa school of critical thinking, the one that teaches that good relievers do not necessarily make good ninth inning relievers, or about how good players in the regular season not automatically being good October players.
So it'll be the graduates of that school - and certainly the teacher himself - who are going to be quickest to express the thought that Robertson, because he's going to a new role, is currently nothing more than an unproven commodity until he shows otherwise, and that his the first stumble is not just a bad day but rather the first piece of "evidence" that he's out of his element meaning that a real 9th inning replacement must be found so that Robertson can be moved back to the 8th inning that therefore back to being good.


As Captain Queeg put it about missing strawberries: "and I was proving it with geometric logic..."

[Edgy MD]

On the other hand. This may have saved the Yankee the challenge of replacing a legend just when he was going to start declining anyhow.

Robertson is exactly where Rivera was back in 1996 --- past 25 and still setting up for a vet he's consistently outperforming.

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: Especially from those raised in the Mike Francesa school of critical thinking,

Which he loves to summarize in one brief prrase "I told ya' so".

Later

[metirish]

Have the beat writers suggested a video tribute at Citi Filed yet and then chastise any of us who tell them to cop the fuck on?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

FACEBOOK PRO TIP: Even the most ostensibly good-humored FB-friends-who-happen-to-be-MFY-fans don't seem to take kindly to one's suggestions that Rivera's injury might be due to something he did that displeased his God.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: FACEBOOK PRO TIP: Even the most ostensibly good-humored FB-friends-who-happen-to-be-MFY-fans don't seem to take kindly to one's suggestions that Rivera's injury might be due to something he did that displeased his God.

try telling them don't worry the HGH will have him back soon. That'll cheer them up.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

He's the last active No. 42, I think.

That injury sounds like the kind of thing that happens to Mets.

[Benjamin Grimm]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: He's the last active No. 42, I think.

The Mets should reactivate Butch Huskey or Ron Hodges so that they can take that honor away from Rivera.

[Edgy MD]

Or insist that legacies get grandfathered in so Cory Vaughn can inherit the number from Unky Mo.

[Edgy MD]

Rivera hurt for the Yanks.
Bailey hurt for Sawx.
Farnsworth hurt for the Rays.
Santos hurt for the Jays.

Does that mean the Orioles with (looking him up...) Jim Johnson are the only team in the AL East that still have the closer they opened the season with active and healthy?

[metsmarathon]

it's obvious to me in the wake of this injury, that pitchers have no business attempting to field balls, and especially should not practice to do so. they should throw the ball and get the fuck off hte field. major league baseball needs to adopt the DF (designated fielder) rule immediately and put an end to this ridiculous charade.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Supposedly Andy Pettitte is wrapping up his minor league warm-ups now that he's done defending Clemens. Think he'd be a candidate for them to throw out there for the ninth?