2011 player awards

[Ceetar]

MFS62 wrote: IIRC, the Cy Young was institiuted by Ford Frick when he noticed that hitters were winning the majority of MVP awards. It was meant to be a separate award. IMO, a pitcher should win the MVP in the first year a cat wins the Westminster Kennel Club Show. Later

It is a separate award.

If pitchers weren't meant to win the award, they wouldn't be eligible.

they are eligible.

They don't let cat's into the Westminster show, but if they did, and it outperformed the dogs, it should win.

cats are more fun anyway.

[Frayed Knot]

Anyone want to hazard a guess at Reyes's showing? (cuz no other NYM is getting anywhere near the list)
If so then, prior to today's 2PM announcement, take a stab at:
1) Placement
2) Top 5 votes
3) Total number of points


Winner, as always, receives absolutely nothing.




I'll go with 8th, none, and 75

[Edgy MD]

MFS62 wrote: IIRC, the Cy Young was institiuted by Ford Frick when he noticed that hitters were winning the majority of MVP awards. It was meant to be a separate award. IMO, a pitcher should win the MVP in the first year a cat wins the Westminster Kennel Club Show. Later

That's actually called the "The Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show," so it's specifically about dogs. "Most Valuable Player" specifies "players," and pitchers certainly qualify as players.

[seawolf17]

Seriously, people, cats suck.

It's called the "Most Valuable Player." Pitchers players? Yup. Then they count. Congrats to Justin Verlander.

[Ceetar]

Anyone want to hazard a guess at Reyes's showing? (cuz no other NYM is getting anywhere near the list) If so then, prior to today's 2PM announcement, take a stab at: 1) Placement 2) Top 5 votes 3) Total number of points Winner, as always, receives absolutely nothing. I'll go with 8th, none, and 75

7th, 7, 77.

(I actually created a poll at the end of the season for this ,externally: http://www.ceetar.com/optimisticmetsfan/2011/09/28/poll-where-does-reyes-finish-in-mvp-race/)

[metsmarathon]

8th

3 top-five votes

80 total points

[G-Fafif]

Braun MVP. And Jose had a higher batting average, so Jose is MVP.

[G-Fafif]

BBWAA Tweet:

1. Braun 388, 2. Kemp 332; 3. Fielder 229; 4 Upton 214; 5 Pujols 166; 6 Votto 135; 7 Brkmn 118; 8 Tulo 69; 9 Halladay 52; 10 Howard 39.

[G-Fafif]

First-place votes: Braun 20, Kemp 10, Fielder 1, Upton 1. Only four listed on all ballots.

[Ceetar]

And the important info, Reyes 11th with 31 (behind Howard..hah..) and Beltran grabbed an 8th placer, for 3 points.

[G-Fafif]

Jose places as high as fifth on one ballot.

[G-Fafif]

Best Met finish since Wright and Delgado placed in the Top 10 in 2008.

[Edgy MD]

Great news for the Mets.

[Frayed Knot]

So the answer to the Reyes question is: 11th 1, and 31

Surprising that Kemp didn't get it, but I guess it shows that the notion of keeping to players from winning teams is alive and well.
So much for that other 'truism' about teammates splitting votes though as it didn't seem to hurt either Braun or Prince.

Player	TEAM	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	# of Votes	Points
Ryan Braun	Brewers	20	12	0	0	0	32	388
Matt Kemp	Dodgers	10	16	6	0	0	32	332
Prince Fielder	Brewers	1	4	11	9	1	32	229
Justin Upton	DBacks	1	0	8	11	6	32	214
Albert Pujols	Cardinals	0	0	1	6	11	30	166
Koey Votto	Reds	0	0	4	3	2	28	135
Lance Berkman	Cardinals	0	0	1	2	6	28	118
Troy Tulowitski	Rockies	0	0	0	0	0	24	69
Roy Halladay	Phillies	0	0	1	0	1	14	52
Ryan Howard	Phillies	0	0	0	1	3	10	27
Jose Reyes	Mets	0	0	0	0	1	12	31

Also:
Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers -- 11 ballots -- 29 points
Shane Victorino, Phillies -- 9 -- 18
Ian Kennedy, DBacks -- 4 -- 16
Cliff Lee, Phillies -- 4 -- 12
Hunter Pence, Astros/Phillies -- 3 -- 10
Pablo Sandoval, Giants -- 2 -- 7
John Axford, Brewers -- 3 -- 7
Michael Morse, Nationals -- 2 -- 5
Catlos Beltran, Mets/Giants -- 1 -- 3
Miguel Montero, DBacks -- 1 -- 2
Yadier Molino, Cardinals -- 2 -- 2
Starlin Castro, Cubs -- 1 -- 1
Craig Kimbrel, Braves -- 1 -- 1
Carlos Ruiz, Phillies -- 1 -- 1
Mike Stanton, Marlins -- 1 -- 1

[Vic Sage]

MVP NL: R.Braun (mil) - toss up with Kemp; edge to Braun for getting his team to post-season

nailed it.