Met debut/Met birth

[Met Hunter]

After yesterday's debut of Chris Schwinden and Val Pascucci, I figured the book was closed on this year's Met debuts and 50 seasons of Mets were complete. So for fun I decided to look up how many times a player made their Met debut that also became the date a future Met was born. I found 19 instances that this occured:

July 6,1963 Jesse Gonder-Lance Johnson
July 21,1965 Gary Kolb-Mike Bordick
Jun 18,1966 Bob Friend-Sandy Alomar Jr
May 12,1967 Ed Charles/Bob 'Rocky' Johnson-Kenny Greer
April 8,1969 Rod Gaspar-Pete Walker
September 7,1969 Jim Gosger-Darren Bragg
September 15,1971 Buzz Capra/John Milner/Don Rose-Jason Hardtke
April 15,1972 Rusty Staub/Jim Fregosi-Ricky Otero
July 11,1972 Bill Sudakis-Mark Little
April 8,1975 Gene Clines/Joe Torre/Dave Kingman/Del Unser-Timo Perez
September 12,1975 Roy Staiger-Luis Castillo
July 7,1977 Paul Siebert-Andy Green
September 13,1977-Roy Lee Jackson-Grant Roberts
September 29,1977 Doc Medich-Heath Bell
May 20,1978 Dale Murray-Wilson Valdez
September 5,1978 Gil Flores-Matt Watson
April 20,1979 Frank Taveras-Shawn Green
April 12,1980 Mark Bomback-Danny Garcia
April 29,1981 Bob Bailor-Omir Santos

So far, there are no instances that a Met made their debut or was born on the same date an exMet died. Nor the trifecta of a Met debut, future Met birth and an exMet death. The hat trick.

Edited September 9, 2011 by Guest

[Ceetar]

Met Hunter wrote: So far, there are no instances that a Met made their debut or was born on the same date an exMet died. Nor the trifecta of a Met debut, future Met birth and an exMet death. The hat trick.

interesting.

I assume this trifeca will show up sooner or later now that the franchise itself is actually approaching age expectancy.

the perfect story would be that the first Met to throw a no-hitter would be born on the day Nolan Ryan dies, but I hope we don't have to wait that long (for the no-hitter)

[Met Hunter]

It should also be noted that the first instance this occured was the Charles/Johnson/Greer combo, when Greer made his obscure September callup appearance at the very end of '93.

[TransMonk]

Also, happy birthday to Todd Zeile.

[metirish]

Interesting work , now I know why you are so named Met Hunter.

[Met Hunter]

UMBD makes these lists easy to compile.

[MFS62]

I knew Heath Bell and I shared a birthday. Hadn't known about Doc Medich.
Thanks.

Boy, there are a lot of short-Mets-careered players on that list I had liked but forgotten. (e.g. - Bill Sudakis, Roy Staiger and Buzz Capra)

Later

[metirish]

Met Hunter wrote: UMBD makes these lists easy to compile.

Yes it does, aptly names all so.


I am often surprised at the info that can be compiled from the UMDB.

[metirish]

Baseball-Reference has Tejada born on October 27, 1989



http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/tejadru01.shtml

UMDB has it as September 1st 1989

http://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0878

[Benjamin Grimm]

Thanks for the shout-out to the UMDB!

I'm curious... which UMDB pages/features did you use to compile the list? I would have done it through SQL on the back end, but unless you hacked my database, you wouldn't have been able to do that. I'm not sure how I would have gone about it using the web pages.

[Ceetar]

metirish wrote: Baseball-Reference has Tejada born on October 27, 1989 http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/tejadru01.shtml UMDB has it as September 1st 1989 http://leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0878

BR is correct.


I'd like to hack your database. I always find myself wishing I'd set up some databases so I can run SQL queries against it for random crap. I even downloaded all the retrosheet.org files, but never took the next step.

[metsmarathon]

i wish i knew how to run sql queries

[Benjamin Grimm]

I've fixed Tejada's DOB in the UMDB.

I suspect I got his data when he was a minor leaguer, perhaps from Baseball America's website. I probably should be better about double-checking the data of guys once they get promoted to the big leagues.

[Ceetar]

[code:1dtodd16]Select * from nym.games where Vhits=0

0 rows returned. [/code:1dtodd16]

[Met Hunter]

OK then. 19 instances. As we know dates of births can be subjective, Especially foreign born.

Mr. Grimm, I just went through each season on your site starting in 1962. DOBs and debuts are listed back to back. Old school research for those not completely computer fluent.

[seawolf17]

MFS62 wrote: I knew Heath Bell and I shared a birthday. Hadn't known about Doc Medich.

I've always been fascinated by people who share my birthday.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Met Hunter wrote: OK then. 19 instances. As we know dates of births can be subjective, Especially foreign born. Mr. Grimm, I just went through each season on your site starting in 1962. DOBs and debuts are listed back to back. Old school research for those not completely computer fluent.

Ah! Clever! I always enjoy seeing different ways that visitors use the site. Thanks!