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I think the new guys were reluctant to start throwing out huge contracts immediately upon arrival because - well maybe because they couldn't with finances being up in the air and all - but also because they wanted to get the lay of the land. Reyes, after all, did NOT have this kind of year last season and has had the best parts of two entire seasons blown out of the water due to a variety of injuries. Also, as much of a cliche about how players are able to turn it on in a contract year, that's one of those things that's true except for when it isn't so let's not kid ourselves into believing that this kind of start was inevitable for Jose even if this is the kind of production from him we've imagined all these years.

Now that Sandy et al have seen him up close and personal and now that a minority investor is (most of the way) in place I think things have changed and there will definitely be talks prior to the FA period in November. Whether those talks go anywhere or not ...

"Crawford money", btw, is 7 years at just over $20/per and he was approx 1 year older at the time of his deal than Jose will be this fall.


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Everybody in baseball isn't making the money they hoped to make. Nine teams are in violation of of MLB's debt service rules. Jimmy Rollins is out there competing for offers. If you're a leading shortstop on the free agent market, this isn't the ideal season.

I still think he'll see $20 million per year over at least five years.


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Edgy DC wrote:
Everybody in baseball isn't making the money they hoped to make. Nine teams are in violation of of MLB's debt service rules. Jimmy Rollins is out there competing for offers. If you're a leading shortstop on the free agent market, this isn't the ideal season.

I still think he'll see $20 million per year over at least five years.


The best part is someone is going to drastically overpay for Rollins. I'm not sure I hope it's the Phillies or not.


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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I just hope it's not the Mets.


geeze. That would be horrible. It'd be about as close to buying a Cano jersey as I could get.


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Ceetar wrote:
geeze. That would be horrible.


Objectively, I really like Jimmy Rollins. He's just the kind of player that suits me: he speaks his mind; he's intelligent; he's not afraid to be cocky and have some swagger.

Now, I of course dislike him because he's on the Phillies. And I used to dislike the Phillies for their blatant hypocrisy in obssessing over Reyes (nowadays, the obsession is just pathetic) when Rollins is just as much a showboat in his own way.

I don't want Rollins on the Mets because he's older and less talented than he used to be. But he's exactly the kind of player I like. If he had been on the Mets all these years, we'd love him the same way we love Jose.


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Don't Trade Jose!


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N'echangez pas Jose!


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Gwreck wrote:
I don't want Rollins on the Mets because he's older and less talented than he used to be. But he's exactly the kind of player I like. If he had been on the Mets all these years, we'd love him the same way we love Jose.


I agree.


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ceetar is just trying to rationalize the Cano jersey he alreay owns but hasn't had the courage to wear yet.


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Edgy DC wrote:
ceetar is just trying to rationalize the Cano jersey he alreay owns but hasn't had the courage to wear yet.


You know, (Doncha know?) Cano is the first name I thought of. I then sat there for 15 seconds trying to figure if I was going to buy a Yankee jersey, which one would I buy? Not Tex, obviously not Jeter. I might go A-Rod just for the legendary aspect of it. No one else really appeals. Maybe Hughes if he was pitching. Swisher is cool but I don't see him remaining a Yankee for long.


I don't like Rollins. I never liked Rollins. He always struck me as a bit of an overrated punk, going back to his first or second year. He was one of those guys that's been pretty hyped the whole time and he didn't seem worth it to me. I'm sure I'd like the guy if he was on my team, but in this specific context, of trading the best SS in the game that we adore for an older, lesser model that we hate, would feel like such a slap in the face.


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Gwreck wrote:
geeze. That would be horrible.


Objectively, I really like Jimmy Rollins. He's just the kind of player that suits me: he speaks his mind; he's intelligent; he's not afraid to be cocky and have some swagger.

Now, I of course dislike him because he's on the Phillies. And I used to dislike the Phillies for their blatant hypocrisy in obssessing over Reyes (nowadays, the obsession is just pathetic) when Rollins is just as much a showboat in his own way.

I don't want Rollins on the Mets because he's older and less talented than he used to be. But he's exactly the kind of player I like. If he had been on the Mets all these years, we'd love him the same way we love Jose.


I'm with G on this. (Plus, Rollins does a great Rickey Henderson swing-and-run impression.)

Rollins then, not Rollins now, of course.


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Gwreck wrote:


Objectively, I really like Jimmy Rollins. He's just the kind of player that suits me: he speaks his mind; he's intelligent; he's not afraid to be cocky and have some swagger.

Now, I of course dislike him because he's on the Phillies. And I used to dislike the Phillies for their blatant hypocrisy in obssessing over Reyes (nowadays, the obsession is just pathetic) when Rollins is just as much a showboat in his own way.

I don't want Rollins on the Mets because he's older and less talented than he used to be. But he's exactly the kind of player I like. If he had been on the Mets all these years, we'd love him the same way we love Jose.


This is how I feel exactly.


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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I agree with the agreements. Like that Rollins also is a part of a tradition of exciting black players out of Oakland.


Guest The Second Spitter
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So we all agree Gwreck should be GM of the Mets......and President of the United States of America.


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Has anybody yet said, "Don't Trade Reyes" today?

Because Don't Trade Reyes.


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N'echangez pas Reyes!


Guest The Second Spitter
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You sound so sexy typing that in French!


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The Second Spitter wrote:
You sound so sexy typing that in French!


Merci, mon ami ;)


Guest The Second Spitter
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It's like Gomez, whenever Morticia speaks French.

Hey Profiteers of Mets related t-shirts.....here's and idea:

Front of T-shirt:

Has anybody yet said, "Don't Trade Reyes" today?

Back of T-shirt:

Because....

Don't Trade Reyes!
N'echangez pas Reyes!
No negocie Reyes!





, etc.

Thank you, and put me down for 30 per cent.


Guest The Second Spitter
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Fuck Derwood, there are much more capable people here.


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Don't trade Reyes (no, no),
Oh, don't you do it now,
Don't trade Reyes (no, no)

Don't give up like they want you to
You can pay him with an I.O.U.
I'll explain the facts to you,
Don't trade Reyes
Keep him around or our interest is through

Don't trade Reyes (no, no),
Oh, don't you do it now,
Don't trade Reyes (no, no)

He can steal a base or two
Runs faster than Seattle Slew
Flashier than Vida Blue
Don't trade Reyes
We want him and Sandy so should you

Infielder with some pop,
The best one in the sport
He's an All-Star at shortstop
And when he steals he's seldom caught

Don't trade Reyes (no, no),
Oh, don't you do it now,
Don't trade Reyes (no, no)

Fred you got some explainin' to do
Saul and Jeff, you do too
Step aside let Einhorn through
Don't trade Reyes
You mess this up we'll turn our backs on you

[instrumental break]

When he steals he's seldom caught
Don't trade Reyes (no, no),
Oh, don't you do it now,
Don't trade Reyes (no, no)

I wouldn't say our team is through
We still have Ike and David too,
And watching Jose's fun to do
Don't trade Reyes
We want him here til 2022!

Don't trade Reyes (no, no),
Oh, don't you do it now,
Don't trade Reyes (no, no)
[Fade]
Or you'll be sorry, baby
Don't trade Reyes (no, no)
We wanna love you Sandy
Don't trade Reyes


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Farmer Ted wrote:
Be careful HOW you ask the Mets not to trade Jose...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Mets-give-blogger-a-bigger-audience-by-ejecting-?urn=mlb-wp8736#remaining-content


ack, i read the comments. my eyes, my eyes!


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I know security is heavy handed. But I can sorta see the team's point. They charge people gobs of money to advertise in the stadium. He's essentially taking that service for free. Not that GEICO would start having people walk around the stadium with signs to avoid paying for the giant billboard. But his sign was more about promoting him and his product that actually supporting Reyes, one might think.

And when you walk around with a sign like that, you're blocking the view of someone who paid a lot of money to sit there. It's one thing to get your view blocked by a guy cheering on the team, it's another when the guy is promoting his own site. If the team periodically blocked your view with a DRINK BUD sign, you'd be irked.

The team screwed up by giving him something he can parlay into exposure far greater than he ever imagined.

I looked at the site. Liked the shirts with the neon players from Shea. The rest? Eh.


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