Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 I think the new guys were reluctant to start throwing out huge contracts immediately upon arrival because - well maybe because they couldn't with finances being up in the air and all - but also because they wanted to get the lay of the land. Reyes, after all, did NOT have this kind of year last season and has had the best parts of two entire seasons blown out of the water due to a variety of injuries. Also, as much of a cliche about how players are able to turn it on in a contract year, that's one of those things that's true except for when it isn't so let's not kid ourselves into believing that this kind of start was inevitable for Jose even if this is the kind of production from him we've imagined all these years.Now that Sandy et al have seen him up close and personal and now that a minority investor is (most of the way) in place I think things have changed and there will definitely be talks prior to the FA period in November. Whether those talks go anywhere or not ..."Crawford money", btw, is 7 years at just over $20/per and he was approx 1 year older at the time of his deal than Jose will be this fall.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Everybody in baseball isn't making the money they hoped to make. Nine teams are in violation of of MLB's debt service rules. Jimmy Rollins is out there competing for offers. If you're a leading shortstop on the free agent market, this isn't the ideal season.I still think he'll see $20 million per year over at least five years.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:Everybody in baseball isn't making the money they hoped to make. Nine teams are in violation of of MLB's debt service rules. Jimmy Rollins is out there competing for offers. If you're a leading shortstop on the free agent market, this isn't the ideal season.I still think he'll see $20 million per year over at least five years.The best part is someone is going to drastically overpay for Rollins. I'm not sure I hope it's the Phillies or not.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 I just hope it's not the Mets.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Benjamin Grimm wrote:I just hope it's not the Mets.geeze. That would be horrible. It'd be about as close to buying a Cano jersey as I could get.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Ceetar wrote:geeze. That would be horrible.Objectively, I really like Jimmy Rollins. He's just the kind of player that suits me: he speaks his mind; he's intelligent; he's not afraid to be cocky and have some swagger.Now, I of course dislike him because he's on the Phillies. And I used to dislike the Phillies for their blatant hypocrisy in obssessing over Reyes (nowadays, the obsession is just pathetic) when Rollins is just as much a showboat in his own way.I don't want Rollins on the Mets because he's older and less talented than he used to be. But he's exactly the kind of player I like. If he had been on the Mets all these years, we'd love him the same way we love Jose.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 I REALLY don't want the Mets to trade Reyes.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 No negocie Reyes.In any language, don't trade Reyes.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Gwreck wrote:I don't want Rollins on the Mets because he's older and less talented than he used to be. But he's exactly the kind of player I like. If he had been on the Mets all these years, we'd love him the same way we love Jose.I agree.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 ceetar is just trying to rationalize the Cano jersey he alreay owns but hasn't had the courage to wear yet.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:ceetar is just trying to rationalize the Cano jersey he alreay owns but hasn't had the courage to wear yet.You know, (Doncha know?) Cano is the first name I thought of. I then sat there for 15 seconds trying to figure if I was going to buy a Yankee jersey, which one would I buy? Not Tex, obviously not Jeter. I might go A-Rod just for the legendary aspect of it. No one else really appeals. Maybe Hughes if he was pitching. Swisher is cool but I don't see him remaining a Yankee for long. I don't like Rollins. I never liked Rollins. He always struck me as a bit of an overrated punk, going back to his first or second year. He was one of those guys that's been pretty hyped the whole time and he didn't seem worth it to me. I'm sure I'd like the guy if he was on my team, but in this specific context, of trading the best SS in the game that we adore for an older, lesser model that we hate, would feel like such a slap in the face.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Gwreck wrote:geeze. That would be horrible.Objectively, I really like Jimmy Rollins. He's just the kind of player that suits me: he speaks his mind; he's intelligent; he's not afraid to be cocky and have some swagger.Now, I of course dislike him because he's on the Phillies. And I used to dislike the Phillies for their blatant hypocrisy in obssessing over Reyes (nowadays, the obsession is just pathetic) when Rollins is just as much a showboat in his own way.I don't want Rollins on the Mets because he's older and less talented than he used to be. But he's exactly the kind of player I like. If he had been on the Mets all these years, we'd love him the same way we love Jose.I'm with G on this. (Plus, Rollins does a great Rickey Henderson swing-and-run impression.)Rollins then, not Rollins now, of course.
Guest The Second Spitter Guests Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Gwreck wrote:Objectively, I really like Jimmy Rollins. He's just the kind of player that suits me: he speaks his mind; he's intelligent; he's not afraid to be cocky and have some swagger.Now, I of course dislike him because he's on the Phillies. And I used to dislike the Phillies for their blatant hypocrisy in obssessing over Reyes (nowadays, the obsession is just pathetic) when Rollins is just as much a showboat in his own way.I don't want Rollins on the Mets because he's older and less talented than he used to be. But he's exactly the kind of player I like. If he had been on the Mets all these years, we'd love him the same way we love Jose. This is how I feel exactly.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 I agree with the agreements. Like that Rollins also is a part of a tradition of exciting black players out of Oakland.
Guest The Second Spitter Guests Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 So we all agree Gwreck should be GM of the Mets......and President of the United States of America.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Has anybody yet said, "Don't Trade Reyes" today?Because Don't Trade Reyes.
Guest The Second Spitter Guests Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 You sound so sexy typing that in French!
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 The Second Spitter wrote:You sound so sexy typing that in French!Merci, mon ami
Guest The Second Spitter Guests Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 It's like Gomez, whenever Morticia speaks French.Hey Profiteers of Mets related t-shirts.....here's and idea:Front of T-shirt:Has anybody yet said, "Don't Trade Reyes" today?Back of T-shirt:Because....Don't Trade Reyes!N'echangez pas Reyes!No negocie Reyes! , etc.Thank you, and put me down for 30 per cent.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 email it to Darren at the7line.
Guest The Second Spitter Guests Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Fuck Derwood, there are much more capable people here.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Don't trade Reyes (no, no),Oh, don't you do it now,Don't trade Reyes (no, no)Don't give up like they want you toYou can pay him with an I.O.U.I'll explain the facts to you, Don't trade ReyesKeep him around or our interest is throughDon't trade Reyes (no, no),Oh, don't you do it now,Don't trade Reyes (no, no)He can steal a base or twoRuns faster than Seattle SlewFlashier than Vida BlueDon't trade ReyesWe want him and Sandy so should youInfielder with some pop,The best one in the sportHe's an All-Star at shortstopAnd when he steals he's seldom caughtDon't trade Reyes (no, no),Oh, don't you do it now,Don't trade Reyes (no, no)Fred you got some explainin' to doSaul and Jeff, you do tooStep aside let Einhorn throughDon't trade ReyesYou mess this up we'll turn our backs on you[instrumental break]When he steals he's seldom caughtDon't trade Reyes (no, no),Oh, don't you do it now,Don't trade Reyes (no, no)I wouldn't say our team is throughWe still have Ike and David too,And watching Jose's fun to doDon't trade ReyesWe want him here til 2022!Don't trade Reyes (no, no),Oh, don't you do it now,Don't trade Reyes (no, no)[Fade]Or you'll be sorry, babyDon't trade Reyes (no, no)We wanna love you SandyDon't trade Reyes
Farmer Ted Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Be careful HOW you ask the Mets not to trade Jose...http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Mets-give-blogger-a-bigger-audience-by-ejecting-?urn=mlb-wp8736#remaining-content
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Farmer Ted wrote:Be careful HOW you ask the Mets not to trade Jose...http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Mets-give-blogger-a-bigger-audience-by-ejecting-?urn=mlb-wp8736#remaining-contentack, i read the comments. my eyes, my eyes!
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) I know security is heavy handed. But I can sorta see the team's point. They charge people gobs of money to advertise in the stadium. He's essentially taking that service for free. Not that GEICO would start having people walk around the stadium with signs to avoid paying for the giant billboard. But his sign was more about promoting him and his product that actually supporting Reyes, one might think. And when you walk around with a sign like that, you're blocking the view of someone who paid a lot of money to sit there. It's one thing to get your view blocked by a guy cheering on the team, it's another when the guy is promoting his own site. If the team periodically blocked your view with a DRINK BUD sign, you'd be irked.The team screwed up by giving him something he can parlay into exposure far greater than he ever imagined. I looked at the site. Liked the shirts with the neon players from Shea. The rest? Eh. Edited June 7, 2011 by Guest
Zach Thornton Syracuse Mets - AAA LHP On Sunday, the southpaw tossed five shutout innings as the bulk pitcher. He gave up 2 hits, walked 2 and had 5 strikeouts. Explore Zach Thornton News >
Recommended Posts