Don't trade Reyes

[Theoldmole]

It just can't be said often enough.

[metirish]

Don't trade Reyes


signed - metirish

[Ceetar]

You think they're going to drag this out and torture us all the way into the free-free agent period? Or will they sign an extension this summer?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Dudes with the 'don't trade Reyes' banner pictured in the Snooze today apparently were kicked out of the park. I was talking with the guy in the orange shirt at McFadden's last night.

Meanwhile on a related topic, Bill Madden with about the worst piece of shit he's ever written this morning.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2011/06/06/2011-06-06_to_do_wright_by_david_club_should_do_him_a_favor__deal.html

[metirish]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Dudes with the 'don't trade Reyes' banner pictured in the Snooze today apparently were kicked out of the park. I was talking with the guy in the orange shirt at McFadden's last night. Meanwhile on a related topic, Bill Madden with about the worst piece of shit he's ever written this morning. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2011/06/06/2011-06-06_to_do_wright_by_david_club_should_do_him_a_favor__deal.html

OMFG , Mets owe it to him to trade him? ....Madden has out done himself.

[MFS62]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Meanwhile on a related topic, Bill Madden with about the worst piece of shit he's ever written this morning. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2011/06/06/2011-06-06_to_do_wright_by_david_club_should_do_him_a_favor__deal.html

That reads like he wrote it before he even got out of bed this morning (while he was still jerkin' his gherkin to the picture of Jeter on his wall).

Rating Madden columns is difficult, because its tough to tell the difference between worst shit and best shit.
But I'd put this on the top 10 list, moving up fast, with a bullet.

Later

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Ceetar wrote: You think they're going to drag this out and torture us all the way into the free-free agent period?

Oh, yeah.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Dudes with the 'don't trade Reyes' banner pictured in the Snooze today apparently were kicked out of the park. I was talking with the guy in the orange shirt at McFadden's last night. Meanwhile on a related topic, Bill Madden with about the worst piece of shit he's ever written this morning. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2011/06/06/2011-06-06_to_do_wright_by_david_club_should_do_him_a_favor__deal.html

Ted Berg already killed Madden for that one. Drivel. I'm not going to read it.

Yeah, The7line guy is getting around. Called in to Boomer and Carton (actually they hunted him down as they were grossly misunderstanding the situation but at least they got him on and got the real facts. the news/traffic woman usually wears the shirts) is on Metsblog.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Jesus.

[metirish]

My first reaction was that this would be like the Bruins letting ray Borque go to the Avs, but then I thought wait Wright isn't 39 years old......fuck off Bill.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I was able to tell it was stupid just by the headline. I started to Madden's article a quick skim to get the rough gist, but I found I couldn't even bring myself to do that.

[Willets Point]

I'm just here to say Don't Trade Reyes.

There's no way I'm going to read that article.

[Valadius]

What Willets said.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

It's gotten to the point where having won the Spink after a certain year threshold is almost an ANTI-quality seal.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

What's Madden doing, trying to be the evil heir to Dick Young? Drive another Mets superstar out of town?

[metsmarathon]

don't fucking trade reyes. don't fucking trade wright.

build a fucking winner and rake in the fucking dough.

[Willets Point]

metsmarathon wrote: don't fucking trade reyes. don't fucking trade wright. build a fucking winner and rake in the fucking dough.

This.

[Theoldmole]

If they need to cut salary, trade Frankie before he vests.

Better yet, sell the fucking team to someone who can afford to pay their salaries.

[Vic Sage]

don't fucking trade reyes. don't fucking trade wright. build a fucking winner and rake in the fucking dough.

Rinse. Repeat.

If they need to cut salary, trade Frankie before he vests. Better yet, sell the fucking team to someone who can afford to pay their salaries.

This... and that.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Think is, I want Reyes retained as much as anybody, but part of me feels that the more agitation we participate in, the more his price goes up.

If you were to walk into his agent's office and slam an offer on the table, what would it be?

[Vic Sage]

6yr/$100M - take it or leave it.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'd make him an offer he couldn't refuse.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Vic Sage wrote: 6yr/$100M - take it or leave it.

You'd really open with a take-it-or-leave-it offer?

[Vic Sage]

no, i'd probably open with hookers and blow. but that's me. I don't know about Sandy.

[ashie62]

As long as ts' not Carl Crawford money we may be ok.

Liked Bobby V saying keepin Wright, Reyes and Santana is par for the market.

[Ceetar]

What I'd start offering him? 90/5, that's $18 million a year. I'd auto-vest a 6th year at $20 ($2 buyout) based on 700 games played (140 per) and maybe a 7th based on 140 in year 6.

Then I'd give him bonuses. Lots and lots of bonuses. 1 million or breaking the Mets all-time hits mark (the first time) 1 million for 1000 steals. 1 million for active leader in triples. things like that.

[Vic Sage]

i think $16-$18m/yr for 5-7 years is the right ballpark. If he signs elsewhere within those parameters, we have a right to be pissed.

[Ceetar]

Actually, I guess to really make it fair you have say "bonus for passing Kranepool". Giving him a bonus for becoming the franchise leader in hits might be too close to saying "You get a million if you're better than David Wright"

[Frayed Knot]

Buster Olney said last night - both in the pre-game and once during it - the the team is prepared to make him an offer "sometime this summer" (was I believe the wording he used). Not sure where Buster was getting his info from but I don't recall hearing something that concrete prior to now.

Presumably that means they try something before the trading deadline just to see if the two sides are miles apart or just somewhat apart, or maybe just to see if the Reyes camp even wants to talk at all. Project out a little further and you get the idea that if they don't like what they hear (or don't hear) they'd be open to trading him but then that opens up a whole 'nother can of worms because, as Bobby said during the game, if you can't sign him then what can you realistically do and/or if you're dealing him away then you might as well deal everyone (Wright included) and start all over. And even if you do that you're still going to be stuck with Bay and Santana (or a large portion of their contracts) so how low is your payroll going to be anyway? Reyes is already making $11 this year so it's not like the payroll is going up by $19/yr if that's what his salary winds up being via a new deal because you're already 2/3 of the way there now. Shit, the Castillo deal coming off the books pays for most of the difference.

[Ceetar]

Yeah, I've been sorta thinking of it along the lines of "Give him Castillo's money".

I really thought they'd work out an extension in the Spring, but i wonder if Madoff/finances messed with that. After all, things like payroll taxes and bonuses would've had to come from this years budget if they signed him preseason. Now that all becomes next season stuff, and with the sale finalizing, the immediate economic future of the team (not Sterling obviously) is somewhat predictable and budgetable.

It would make good PR sense too. Quiet down the fans, show them you do care about th em, and have the national audience talk about a lifelong Met at the All-Star Game instead of salivating and making up trade rumors when Reyes talks to say Tim Lincecum.