General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

[Guest d'Kong76]

Going through a box of stuff and I found these postcards.
Particularly like this one so sharing ...
(the orange is my scanner backround and not on card)

[batmagadanleadoff]

Here's an unused Topps photo of Gil Hodges (c. 1962), that you might be interested in using for a card. The photo is faded and needs some color correction, (check out the dull purples that used to be Met blue and the brownish rather than greenish grass). You'll also need to remove the Topps watermark, but you have the skill sets to do that. Topps has been selling their archive of hard photos to the public, presumably because they've digitized their image collection.

[Zvon]

Wow! Thank you! Watermarks schmortermarks!

[Zvon]

G-Fafif wrote: Zvon, these are fantastic. Love that you're doing this and blogging it. Looking forward to sharing on FAFIF and everywhere.

Thanx G. Looks like it's shaping up to be different slices of Met history told thru baseball cards. Besides the graphic stuff I want it to be informative so old fans can recollect and new fans can learn about the Mets. The player cards are fun and all but it's events and game/season/career Met stuff that I want to capsulize the most. I've only touched on it with highlight cards. It's the post season cards I'm looking forward to the most and I'm glad I didn't rush that. I'm still finding new pictures and info for them. They are coming together nicely.

I have to do something for 1964 and then I'm planning a series of cards (4 to 6 cards, I figure) to capture the '64 A.S.G. on '65 Topps world series type cards (blue instead of red). Most don't know the details of that ASG and thats a sin.
I could only find one color photo from the 64 ASG (Shea below does not count). I will colorize if I have to but that's a lot of work. I'm scouring the interwebs for more color images. I'd like this lil sub-set to culminate with Callison crossing home plate in a blue Met helmet. Getting detailed descriptions of the game is a must for the card backs. I'm finding good sources.



I also have to learn the details around the blog deal. I like how you guys have links to other Metsites and I'll have to figure out how to do that stuff. I can't even figure out how to follow other blogs these days. There used to be a follow button but I don't see it anymore (I did start following a few back when). With all the new social media icons now I'm afraid to click stuff for fear of doing something stupid like broadcasting to facebook or something. I'll figure it out. All it'll take is time.

[Edgy MD]

Sorry to interrupt these beauties with this misbegotten card of yore.

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: Sorry to interrupt these beauties with this misbegotten card of yore.

That really did stop this thread cold. Thats kinda creepy. In a Futurama head in a jar kinda way.



The 64 ASG tribute thing with the cards is up.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Those cards are beautiful. Can't wait for the next batch.

[Zvon]

Looking for a lil help please.

I'm looking for a photograph. I've searched for days. In Bunnings '64 perfecto @ Shea, Tony Taylor made a great play to rob a hit. Does anyone have this photo or know where I can find it? I saw the photo in a book about the Mets I had as a kid, so I know it exists.

Also some information. That weekend the Mets played the Phils 5 times in three days. Does anyone know if these were scheduled or was one of the double header games a make up? They played a double header on Friday and then again on Sunday. All I can find at UMD indicates these were scheduled games.

[dinosaur jesus]

Zvon wrote: Looking for a lil help please. Also some information. That weekend the Mets played the Phils 5 times in three days. Does anyone know if these were scheduled or was one of the double header games a make up? They played a double header on Friday and then again on Sunday. All I can find at UMD indicates these were scheduled games.

At least one of those games was probably a makeup game. That weekend was the first time the Mets and Phillies played in New York that year, but they were both off from Monday, April 20, through Wednesday, April 22. The obvious conclusion is that they were rained out on those days--either two games or three, depending on whether Monday was a travel day (the Phillies were coming from Chicago). If it was two games, then I'd guess that both of them were made up in those June doubleheaders; or, if one of the doubleheaders was already scheduled, the other game was made up in the doubleheader on Friday, August 14. If it was three games, then presumably two of them were made up in June and the third in August. The two teams ended up playing the full 18 games against each other that year.

This is like one of those logic puzzles you see people doing on the train: Jane said she'd wear her red dress to the party, but only if Debra wore her blue dress, while Agnes said she'd dance with either Dave or Martin unless they both brought Zinfandel, in which case she'd dance with Olof, but only if he wore his bolo tie. Which couple accidentally punctured the host's daughter's inflatable giraffe?

[Zvon]

Thnx DJ. Back in those days I was used to double headers but not two in two days. I thought that odd.

Baseball does not realize what a great thing a double header was. How much positive fan support they received back from once in a while throwing us a free game. Idiots.

[Edgy MD]

I don't even need the extra game to be free. Single admission, with a premium tacked on for the second game, would be fine.

But I imagine they lose plenty o' revenues.

[list:93vti1aw][*:93vti1aw]There's only so much premium tack on someone will pay. Would you go double for parking?[/*:m:93vti1aw]
[*:93vti1aw]Would you eat twice as much food?[/*:m:93vti1aw]
[*:93vti1aw]Would you drink twice as much beer?[/*:m:93vti1aw]
[*:93vti1aw]If you did, would you drink a whole lot of it in game one and become a nuisance?[/*:m:93vti1aw]
[*:93vti1aw]Would you buy twice as many hats and thundersticks for your kids?[/*:m:93vti1aw][/list:u:93vti1aw]

I loved scheduled doubleheaders. I loved planning a whole damn day around sitting in one place. I loved publicly (and, I imagine, disgustingly for everybody else) making out for six hours at one during a Sunday in 1985. I loved the events in between them. I hate that so many events never seem to work out without them, like Sebastian Bach singing "ts in between them. I hate that so many events never seem to work out without them, like Sebastian Bach singing "We Are the Chapions" to 15% capacity on Autism Awareness Day, or 6,300 people in their seats during the pre-game ceremony inducting Jerry Koosman into the Mets Hall of Fame --- and often the broadcasts don't even include these things, and we only get a blip during the seventh inning stretch.

But as attendance leaguewide boomed during the last thirty years, I'm sure plenty of research was done, and they saw just how much money their largesse was costing them.

[Zvon]

• There's only so much premium tack on someone will pay. Would you go double for parking?
• Would you eat twice as much food?
• Would you drink twice as much beer?
• If you did, would you drink a whole lot of it in game one and become a nuisance?
• Would you buy twice as many hats and thundersticks for your kids?

I loved scheduled doubleheaders. I loved planning a whole damn day around sitting in one place. I loved publicly (and, I imagine, disgustingly for everybody else) making out for six hours at one during a Sunday in 1985. I loved the events in between them. I hate that so many events never seem to work out without them, like Sebastian Bach singing "We Are the Champions" to 15% capacity on Autism Awareness Day, or 6,300 people in their seats during the pre-game ceremony inducting Jerry Koosman into the Mets Hall of Fame --- and often the broadcasts don't even include these things, and we only get a blip during the seventh inning stretch.

But as attendance leaguewide boomed during the last thirty years, I'm sure plenty of research was done, and they saw just how much money their largesse was costing them.

Edgy MD wrote: I don't even need the extra game to be free. Single admission, with a premium tacked on for the second game, would be fine. But I imagine they lose plenty o' revenues.

I have great memories of going to Met ballgames, but double header memories? FORGETTABOUTIT!
I'd end up having more fun than a barrel of monkeys. Hey, that's okay baseball, you do what you do as the kids of today grow up and become soccer fans. The game is so great it will always have fans. Right? Hope so, cause you're banking on it.

[Ceetar]

while wanting the second admission is part of it, I suspect a larger part of it is the players union and the increased conditioning players do (and the value of said players). Playing two games in one day, especially when you don't need the extra day to travel, can be grueling.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ceetar wrote: while wanting the second admission is part of it, I suspect a larger part of it is the players union and the increased conditioning players do (and the value of said players). Playing two games in one day, especially when you don't need the extra day to travel, can be grueling.

It's the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. It always is. Teams would be scheduling quadruple-headers if the owners were convinced that more money would be made that way. Teams didn't draw nearly as many fans 30 -40 years ago and the size of the season-ticket holder base was tiny. That's why they played two then but not any more.

[Zvon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: It's the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. It always is.

Agreed. And they can do all the research they want. There are some aspects of the game that cant be quantified. I don't know if that's the right word.

[Zvon]

I absolutely love making these baseball cards. I may have found my calling.

[ashie62]

A very nice Yogi 1965 Topps variation there..well done!

[seawolf17]

Ooh, horizontal '65s look weird. Don't know if I like.

[Edgy MD]

Who doesn't like the odd horizonties?

[Zvon]

seawolf17 wrote: Ooh, horizontal '65s look weird. Don't know if I like.

I was always like Grimm when it came to old cards, and old card remakes. Like action shots used in a year Topps didn't do that, and sideways cards when they didn't make them that year. But after being wow'd by that guys cards at Cards That Never Were I changed my mind about that kind of thing. If it looks kool, if its a good pic (or well made sideways card like I saw there-look at his 69 one) it can make for a nice looking card.

[Zvon]

Yo, check this out. Unfortunately you'll need the traditional red/cyan 3D glasses. I have a pair I got from a TV Guide for some TV show a few years ago.
I found the pic at Baseball Fever. With the glasses it looks pretty stunning. It was done by a guy named Chef Bill. He says this can be done with GIMP, which I have. I'm going to try and make some 2D-3D conversions for a few cards.

[Zvon]

SteveJRogers wrote: We've been playing in the 1969 sand box a bit too much Z, lets see cards that never were for the 1986 postseason! I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base.

First test looks like this. I am just making the borders now. I won't be making this set of cards for a while yet.

[stevejrogers]

Zvon wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: We've been playing in the 1969 sand box a bit too much Z, lets see cards that never were for the 1986 postseason! I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base. First test looks like this. I am just making the borders now. I won't be making this set of cards for a while yet.

Sniff...I WANT I WANT I WANT! =

FWIW, Fleer did a 1986 World Series "limited edition" set and there are some cards spotlighting the postseason in Topps' Woolworth Exclusive 1986 Highlights set. Both can be picked up for about a buck or so on eBay or something.

[Zvon]

SteveJRogers wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: We've been playing in the 1969 sand box a bit too much Z, lets see cards that never were for the 1986 postseason! I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base. First test looks like this. I am just making the borders now. I won't be making this set of cards for a while yet. Sniff...I WANT I WANT I WANT! = FWIW, Fleer did a 1986 World Series "limited edition" set and there are some cards spotlighting the postseason in Topps' Woolworth Exclusive 1986 Highlights set. Both can be picked up for about a buck or so on eBay or something.

I had em both. They were neat, Fleer one especially kool looking. Iirc the Woolworth one had a red border. I love world series cards. Always have. Those I collect even if they aren't Mets.

[Zvon]

No, Im thinking of another set. This is that set and I remember these. These were very kool.

Thats a classic card style.

[Zvon]

I thought these were fkn beautiful.

[Zvon]

I have a question, not sure where to put it. It's research for a fake card I'm working on so I'll post it here.
I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia.

The UMB says that the Mets released Hodges on May 22, 1963. Also that he managed the Washington Senators from 1963 to 1967.

Wikipedia says that Gil was traded to the Washington Senators in late May for outfielder Jimmy Piersall so that he could replace Mickey Vernon as Washington's manager.

Which is correct?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Zvon wrote: I have a question, not sure where to put it. It's research for a fake card I'm working on so I'll post it here. I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia. The UMB says that the Mets released Hodges on May 22, 1963. Also that he managed the Washington Senators from 1963 to 1967. Wikipedia says that Gil was traded to the Washington Senators in late May for outfielder Jimmy Piersall so that he could replace Mickey Vernon as Washington's manager. Which is correct?

I think they're both correct. The 5/22/63 date is correct. For some odd reason, I've always committed that date to memory as being the day the Mets sent Hodges to the Senators, who then sent Piersall to the Mets the next day.

[batmagadanleadoff]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I have a question, not sure where to put it. It's research for a fake card I'm working on so I'll post it here. I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia. The UMB says that the Mets released Hodges on May 22, 1963. Also that he managed the Washington Senators from 1963 to 1967. Wikipedia says that Gil was traded to the Washington Senators in late May for outfielder Jimmy Piersall so that he could replace Mickey Vernon as Washington's manager. Which is correct? I think they're both correct. The 5/22/63 date is correct. For some odd reason, I've always committed that date to memory as being the day the Mets sent Hodges to the Senators, who then sent Piersall to the Mets the next day.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1915&dat=19630523&id=A6A0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=3HIFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1043,3227477

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia.

I hope everyone's checking in on Zvon's site periodically. It's a real Mets fans' treat. He's been creating some amazin' amazin' Met images since his site went up a few weeks ago.










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