Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 Ahh, the different patterns. Interesting question. No idea. The bigger one looks like a blow up of the smaller.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 Connected with the different series, maybe? Card 92 would be a series 1, so maybe that whole sheet used a wider speckle. I'll have to check all my 68s and see if there's a pattern.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2013 Author Posted July 25, 2013 The pattern was changed after the 1st series. Beginning with the 2d series, the rest of the '68's had the Bill Short pattern.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 One of the hotter cards out there.A 2011 Matt Harvey Bowman Platinum Xfractor...
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 How much does that list for?Back in '85 my brothers and I got back into baseball cards cause we all wanted to get Gooden rookies. Since the ASG party and getting the update Topps Mattman rook, I'm trying to talk them into doing a major Matt Harvey get his rookies campaign (thu packs, which is always preferable). Odds they will get into it are low because in the interim they have grown up.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I've been dicking around with graphics during the game.+=Hows that look?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 That's a funny card. They not only had to touch up Agee, but two of his teammates, and make sure that neither was obviously recognizable.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2013 Author Posted August 2, 2013 Zvon wrote:I've been dicking around with graphics during the game.+=Hows that look?Nice work. But in correcting one Staub snafu, you created another.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 batmagadanleadoff wrote:Nice work. But in correcting one Staub snafu, you created another.Thank you. I'm afraid to ask what I did to Rusty. So far I see no changes in my personal timeline.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2013 Author Posted August 4, 2013 Nice work. But in correcting one Staub snafu, you created another.Thank you. I'm afraid to ask what I did to Rusty. So far I see no changes in my personal timeline.Staub and Agee could not have appeared together on a 1971 card as teammates in any uniform because they were teammates in 1972 only, as Mets. The restored Mets unis wouldn't work on a 1973 card because by then, Agee was an Astro -- thus the reason why Topps went to the trouble to depict Agee and his teammates as Astros in the first place. (Not that Topps wasn't above issuing a stale card of a player on his former team). Your restored image of Staub and Agee (and Harrelson) in their proper Mets uniforms, would logically work only on a 1972 sideways "In Action" card, and even then, we'd have to assume that the mock Agee '72 IA was a high number late series card, to account for the fact that a 1972 photograph was used on a 1972 card.Sideways 1972 In Action:Topps 1972 High card #755, Jim Fregosi - from 1972 source photograph1972 Topps Joe Morgan, traded to Reds after the '71 season.1972 Topps Jose Cardenal, traded to Cubs after the '71 season.1972 Topps Andy Kosco, traded to Angels after the '71 season.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 batmagadanleadoff wrote:batmagadanleadoff wrote:Nice work. But in correcting one Staub snafu, you created another.Thank you. I'm afraid to ask what I did to Rusty. So far I see no changes in my personal timeline.Staub and Agee could not have appeared together on a 1971 card as teammates in any uniform because they were teammates in 1972 only, as Mets. The restored Mets unis wouldn't work on a 1973 card because by then, Agee was an Astro -- thus the reason why Topps went to the trouble to depict Agee and his teammates as Astros in the first place. (Not that Topps wasn't above issuing a stale card of a player on his former team). Your restored image of Staub and Agee (and Harrelson) in their proper Mets uniforms, would logically work only on a 1972 sideways "In Action" card, and even then, we'd have to assume that the mock Agee '72 IA was a high number late series card, to account for the fact that a 1972 photograph was used on a 1972 card.Good points. The reason I went with the '71 design was because Tommies 71' card was also a sideways type. I wasn't considering the time factor. Something I was reminded of since my last post was that Rusty himself did not have a Topps regular issue baseball card in 1972 and 73. I think it was touched on here as to the reason why (with the kool mock '72 Staub). I thought maybe you were referring to that.I'm on a baseball card making kick (mostly influenced by that wicked kool website CARDS THAT NEVER WERE that a recently came across. I've seen some of that guys work here already) and I do want the ones I create to make sense, so to speak. I'll see if I can put that retouched Agee in a sideways 72 action border or maybe just slide it back in his '73 card border. I hear what you're saying about the reason Topps retouched it but many times, before traded sets, they wouldn't get all caught up on the trades and a player was still pictured on his old team. Agee was a Met for all of the '72 season. That could work. '72 action would be way kooler tho. I just took the 1970 Topps Sporting News World Series cards and redid them with all color photos. I always wished they did those in color. So like the guy from Cards That Never Were I'm going to make my dream cards, but they will be Mets only.I'm just having some fun with this. Grimm is still the king of Mets dream cards.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2013 Author Posted August 4, 2013 That photo is a news staple. It's odd, but refreshingly so, to see it in all of it's glorious Shea and Mets colors. I've come across a few excellent DIY baseball card sites in putting together those threads of baseball cards of one-time Mets in the uniform of the Mets' present opponent. Bob Lemke does good work. http://boblemke.blogspot.com/Here's some of Lemke's work on the Dook. Bobw (a different Bob - not Bob Lemke) not only makes custom Topps cards, but he also prints them, and sends them out to the players depicted in hopes of getting them returned with an autograph. According to BobW, many players are so impressed with his work that they request additional copies of the cards in question for their personal collections. He even offers his cards for sale to the general public. BobW operates out of Brooklyn and, I believe, is a Mets fan.Here's his re-creation of many of the 1962 Mets cards:A Jay Hook set:Joe Moock:The dickallenhof blog is a DIY card site devoted to everything Dick Richie Allen. But there's a fair amount of Met content, like the complete set of faux 1974 Topps All-Star Cards, including this one:
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 Wow. Excellent work . I see those cards and I get all:Oh yea, the Agee card. I need to find a sideways '72 in action border.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Author Posted August 5, 2013 Zvon wrote:Oh yea, the Agee card. I need to find a sideways '72 in action border.It's even got the first four letters of Agee's first name.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 batmagadanleadoff wrote:Zvon wrote:Oh yea, the Agee card. I need to find a sideways '72 in action border.It's even got the first four letters of Agee's first name.kool, ty. I found a higher rez Bobby Murcer to work from. I have learned the bigger the better with these things. Almost done the Agee. The proper font is presenting a challenge. Also a discrepancy. All the letter "M"s I see on the action cards look like the one below. Tommy Davis has different "M"s. Looking at other cards they look like upside down "W"s. I've already started the work based on the Murcer "M", which is like the one below. I'm looking and as far as I can see those "M"s were only used on Tommy Davis's card. I'm like 90% sure that the Davis card is an actual Topps card and not a mock-up. I could be wrong.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 There ya go, with the Murcer M's. I like how this came out. And thnx batmags for the suggestion, because I was always a huge fan of the 72IA cards and was disappointed that Agee didn't get one that year. I have to say I had one of those "oh wow cool!" moments you'd get as a kid when opening a pack and seeing a hot card after I laid this one out. This card was meant to be and thnx to batmags, it now is.Talk about an "oh wow! cool!" moment- when I saw this card at Cards That Never Were it was the closest I've come to the wow factor I'd get as a kid. Seeing this card is what got me all fired up and into the remaking of the 70 world series cards.That guy has a lot of amazin cards but this one blew me away.I've done something like this before, with that Met Set I made in 2002. Actually doing baseball cards is what got me started with adventures in graphics (well, that and a strong desire to see Gillian Anderson naked). Much of the B&W/colorization work was done back then. I made them '71 Topps like because I loved that set. I think remaking them into "updated" 70 WS cards is going to look a lot kooler.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Author Posted August 5, 2013 Zvon wrote:That's some card! Amazin'! Agee's last Met card as an active player! I predict that your mock '72 IA will make the cyber rounds, and in time, some blogger will pick it up and then complain that Topps doctored up a Agee's '72 Mets IA card and then recycled it as his '73 Astro card.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 Custom baseball cards are why I wish I knew how to use Photoshop.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 batmagadanleadoff wrote:Zvon wrote:That's some card! Amazin'! Agee's last Met card as an active player! I predict that your mock '72 IA will make the cyber rounds, and in time, some blogger will pick it up and then complain that Topps doctored up a Agee's '72 Mets IA card and then recycled it as his '73 Astro card.Thank you and that would be pretty kool although not a goal of mine. Its already pretty confusing at times with all the remade hobby cards out there from fans as well as Topps (actually I'm a bit surprised Topps allows fans to do this). Like I can't say for sure that the Tommy Davis is a real card, all because of those "M"s. The font used there is very similar to the font used for the 1972 Topps Boyhood Pictures Of The Stars which I do believe was different than the In Action cards. Here's a Harvey version of one of those cards. The font his name is in is the closest I could come to that actual font.I must ask DGW for permission to use his photos in my adventures in fantasy Met baseball cards. One of my fav all times sets is the 85 Fleer and look how super kool his Hernandez photo is in that border.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Author Posted August 5, 2013 Here's the Tommy Davis "M" on some other '72 Boyhood cards. I did a quick skim of the '72 set and unless I missed a card, I believe that the Tommy Davis "M" is the only occurrence of that style "M" on '72 IA cards. The Davis card pictured above is an actual Topps card, not a DIY. Other sideways '72 IA cards are of Bobby Murcer, Gene Michael, Luis Aparacio, Ron Bryant, Ken Boswell, Bill Melton, John Ellis and Ken Singleton. Keith in a Met uniform looks great in any setting. But double-check your space-time continuum on that mock '85 Fleer.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 batmagadanleadoff wrote:Keith in a Met uniform looks great in any setting. But double-check your space-time continuum on that mock '85 Fleer.Cause of the "C"?I just made a post and hit send and everything looked like it worked right but the post is not here. Hmm.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Author Posted August 5, 2013 Zvon wrote:batmagadanleadoff wrote:Keith in a Met uniform looks great in any setting. But double-check your space-time continuum on that mock '85 Fleer.Cause of the "C"?�Si!
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 DOH! But this is why I run it past you guys. Helps get it right.I shall recreate my missing post:Ha! Peter Lorre is kool.I would think someone noticed the font business on the Davis card before, but who knows. For now I'm gonna say it's our discovery.Working on a mock Met rookie card and came across this.Name this Met:
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 Correct. I thought this would be a difficult question. :/
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Author Posted August 5, 2013 seawolf17 wrote:Custom baseball cards are why I wish I knew how to use Photoshop.Me too. I've been wanting to DIY baseball cards for years, but I have no idea how to use Photoshop. I don't even own a version.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 batmagadanleadoff wrote:seawolf17 wrote:Custom baseball cards are why I wish I knew how to use Photoshop.Me too. I've been wanting to DIY baseball cards for years, but I have no idea how to use Photoshop. I don't even own a version.I've been making "cut outs" of baseball card borders to do this stuff. Basically different year Topps cards without a picture or player name. All are for Mets cards. I'll be glad to make these available if you want to experiment in a photo or art program. IIRC even MS paint can be used for cut and pastes and even applying fonts. The time consuming part is preparing the borders for use. Once I do all that I have what could be called a baseball card kit where you just swap parts in and out. I'll share this base stuff with anyone who wants to have some fun with card making. And it is fun.
dgwphotography Old-Timey Member Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Zvon wrote:[ohhhhhhh nice.... This does look cool with that border...
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