Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Roy Oswalt wants out of Houston because, let's face it, the Astros suck this year. The Mets seem like a great candidate to make a play for him, considering our desperate need at starting pitcher.
Guest Swan Swan H Guests Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Offer them Ollie and GMJ, and maybe Omar can sweeten it from there.
Guest Kong76 Guests Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Valadius wrote:The Mets seem like a great candidate to make a play for himLol, no they don't seem that way at all. There's oil washing up on the shores of Louisiana, get back to work.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 metirish wrote:He's owed $15 million....and?...
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 before the Mets consider trading for Oswalt, Manuel wants to know if he can bunt.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 Led the league with 20 sacs in 2006. He's good to go.Only problem is that you'd have to back up the truck for him.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 metirish wrote:He's owed $15 million....$15 for this year + $16 for next + another $2 more if you don't want to pay him an additional $16 for 2012So, figuring this year at approx 1/4 over, that's (.75x15)+16+2 or about $29.25 -- and that's if they go the cheap route and not pick up the option.You'd be getting a guy on the downside while still paying him for his slipping-into-the-past prime. He also has a no-trade deal so could pick and choose the clubs he wants and speculation has it that he's not a big city, east-coast kinda guy.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 seawolf17 wrote:Led the league with 20 sacs in 2006.Mets have 25 players, but I'm not convinced they have as many as 20 sacs.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted May 21, 2010 Posted May 21, 2010 G-Fafif wrote:seawolf17 wrote:Led the league with 20 sacs in 2006.Mets have 25 players, but I'm not convinced they have as many as 20 sacs.Bada-Bing!
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 It would be nice to get a pitcher of his talent.But in case anyone hasn't been paying attention, the Mets have had at least four games recently when they've gotten about 4 or 5 hits off pitchers who er, let's say, are less than stellar caliber.First things first.Later
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 Buster Olney writes today that it won't be easy for the Astros to trade Oswalt:----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Roy Oswalt has asked for a trade, as Mark Gonzales reported on Friday, and rival executives see four major hurdles to any deal involving Oswalt. "A no-trade clause" -- which Oswalt has -- "doesn't become a must-trade clause," said one general manager. � Hurdle No. 1: He makes a lot of money. Oswalt is owed about $29 million between now and the end of the 2011 season. � Hurdle No. 2: Oswalt's health history. He's had back problems and has required injections in order to pitch, so there would be reason for concern about whether he could be physically able to serve out the rest of his contract. � Hurdle No. 3: Oswalt has a full no-trade clause, which means that if the Astros actually got serious offers for the right-hander, Oswalt could kill the talks. Let's just say, for example, that the Washington Nationals got very aggressive and decided they wanted to want to try to win this year, and that they agreed to a deal for the right-hander; Oswalt could step in and end the discussions, and insist that he only be traded to a team closer to his Mississippi home, like the Rangers or Cardinals or Braves. � Hurdle No. 4 (and this is a biggie): At a time when teams are coveting their young prospects like never before, it remains to be seen whether any club would be willing to surrender a package of prospects good enough to convince Astros owner Drayton McLane to swap one of his signature stars. All it takes is one aggressive team at the right time and right place to make a deal, but it remains to be seen if that team will emerge. Generally speaking, most of the executives I spoke with on Friday believe that Houston will be very hard to satisfy in an Oswalt trade. "They're not just going to give the guy away," said one GM. We'll see.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 he'd be a huge help for the Mets, but what it would take to get him and whether he'd even want to be here are serious concerns.would you give up Mejia/Holt for him? would that be enough for houston?
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 Nymr83 wrote:would you give up Mejia/Holt for him? would that be enough for houston?Yes. I seriously doubt it.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 Not for nothing but we'd be crazy to cough up Mejia for Oswalt.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 I agree. Yeah Mejia probably won't have the career of Oswalt but he very well might have the career of Oswalt from this point forward!!Or, put another way, is Roy Oswalt *Right Now* worth essentially a $29mil/2-yr FA contract (or 3-yrs/$43) AND Jennry Mejia? I'm not sure he's worth either much less both. And I think Houston would be all over that offer like white on Rice University.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 I wouldn't do that either.If Oswalt is as difficult to trade as that article suggests, I'd wait until the price came down to Kevin Mulvey and Carlos Gomez.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 For Oswalt and $20 million.No, $40 million.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 Beltran for Oswalt. DO IT
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 The odds of that being made are remote: lots of money, both have NT clauses, Beltran returning to the scene of his "crime" (leaving via FA), Oswalt reportedly not wanting NE cities, etc., but that's a helluva challenge trade.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2010 Posted May 22, 2010 i wouldnt do that one at all.are we so sure Mejia will be a good starter down the line that we cant deal him for immediate help?
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted May 22, 2010 Author Posted May 22, 2010 If Mejia can develop a third pitch, he'll be unstoppable for the next 7-10 years. He was throwing 98 mph tonight consistently.
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted May 23, 2010 Posted May 23, 2010 I forgot (or maybe didn't realize) just how young Mejia was. He is far too young to to mortgage his future for the immediate infusion Oswalt could provide to Mets rotation. So upon further reflection, I wish to rescind my willingness to trade Mejia and Holt for Oswalt. I would love to have Oswalt to go with Santana and Pelfrey, but I think trading away Mejia's arm to do it would be folly. I acknowledge I was wrong earlier in this thread and hereby proclaim myself unworthy of consideration for being the Mets GM either now or in the future.
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Steve Phillips on WFAN:'I would trade Strasbourg for Oswalt. I would not take Mejia for Oswalt'.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Steve Phillips on WFAN:'I would trade Strasbourg for Oswalt. I would not take Mejia for Oswalt'.Yeah well, we've seen Steve's taste in youngsters .
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Steve Phillips on WFAN:'I would trade Strasbourg for Oswalt. I would not take Mejia for Oswalt'.The reason, perhaps, that Steve Phillips hasn't had a GM's job since he was fired from the Mets nearly a decade ago.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Steve Phillips on WFAN:'I would trade Strasbourg for Oswalt. I would not take Mejia for Oswalt'.I think he's wrong on both accounts there. As the Nats, I would NOT give up the top pitching prospect in baseball who i just drafted and signed to much fanfare and who is considered by almost everyone to be ready for the big leagues.As the Astros, I would accept Mejjia, who still needs work but has potential, because they are not going anywhere this year or next with that cast of players and Oswalt's expiration date is approaching.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 Seriously though , if your a Nats fan and after reading and hearing all you have about this kid you'd flip if he was traded. As a mets fan I want to see him stay in the NL East .
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted May 24, 2010 Posted May 24, 2010 As a Mets fan, I'm glad the Steve Phillips chapter is closed.
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