Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 This all from Metsblog:"In an interesting column for the New York Post, Mike Vaccaro explains why Mets fans may be sabotaging themselves by delivering such strong attendance numbers this season in Citi Field.In short, Vaccaro says, �As long as you come, even if it�s more for Shake Shack than Sheff, you run the risk of all of this being misinterpreted.��it�s an interesting take� i will say this, i hope ownership does not misinterpret the attendance to mean acceptance for mediocrity� because, the reality is, Citi Field, right now, is a novelty� every new stadium seems to go through this phase, just as Toronto, Baltimore, San Diego and Cleveland, among others � all of whom did not have to compete for tickets with the Yankees��if the Mets keep losing, and collapsing, even the best chicken tacos will not be enough to sustain serious attendance� eventually, as always, it will need to be about winning�For more on the �Million Dollar Question,� read NY Baseball Digest.Now me:---- So, Mike. We're supposed to protest what? That we don't like it that half the freaking team is on the disabled list? "Yo, Omar! Stop players from getting hurt or we're going to boycott the games to show our displeasure!Not that you guys all don't know this, but:The All-Star third baseman got beanedThe All-Star centerfielder has a freaking bone bruise-- His replacement hurt something---and then his rookie-call-up replacement got hurtThe starting first baseman/clean-up hitter had hip surgeryThe starting shortstop/leadoff hitter hurt his hamstring-- his replacement tore thumb ligamentsThe No. 2 starter has been out with Lord knows what--- the guy replacing him hurt his legs hustling to get a base hit--- the guy replacing that guy hurt his legs hustling to make a play at first base.The No. 4 starter (allegedly) hurt his kneeThe set-up man hurt his elbow.No team -- NO TEAM -- has the depth to sustain even half of these losses. It's just a snake-bit season. It's sucks hard, but it happens.Does Vaccaro really think Omar sat down and said, "Screw that Reyes guy, what I really want is to get Anderson Hernandez back and trot Angel Pagan out there every day?And the thing is, you just know that if happened to the Yankees, he'd be writing columns about how the team is showing heart and courage just trying to hang tough against insurmountable odds. ...stumbles off soap box[/url]
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 People have to file. The boycott call is irrational, but its a reliable chestnut to fill inches and excite readers.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 It's not just the not acknowledging the role the massive injuries have played that makes this stupid, it's the idea that the Wilpons and Omar are not merely incompetent but evil as well to the point where they're either [u:3cff8dtd]not going to realize[/u:3cff8dtd] that the team is having a bad year as long as attendance is good, or that [u:3cff8dtd]they don't care[/u:3cff8dtd] that the team is bad as long as attendance is good.I realize that the 'we care but they don't so don't give them any ammo' attitude will score him big populist points among his angrier readers, but is this something he really believes?
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Holy shit! It's worse than I thought. I actually read Vaccaro's whole column, and he DOES praise the Yankees:"You know something? The Yankees would have tried better than this. They just would have. They would have tried to put a representative product on the field. They might have lost most nights, might have lost 15-2 some nights. But the fans they soak for hundreds-of-dollars worth of seats and eight-dollar beers and six-dollar frankfurters wouldn't have walked away from those nights as sour as Mets fans do."THE YANKEES WOULD HAVE TRIED BETTER THAN THIS. THEY JUST WOULD HAVE.Based on what, Mike? Just a gut feeling you have?
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 He's right! If we stop going to games, then the team will be better next year! That makes perfect sense!
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 He's also right about the delight with which the Yankee fans weather 15-2 losses. It's true --- I've seen it. It's like they can't get enough of them.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 But if we stop going to games, Fred Wilpon will be able to justify moving the team to Miami.We need a cardboard cutout of Fred where we can unstick his clothing piece by piece.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 I can see getting pissed at a team that is grossly incompetent or just pocketing its luxury tax revenue -- cough, cough Royals and Pirates, cough cough -- but there's only so much rancor I can work up for a team that goes out and spends the money and has the horses, and then has them get hurt.Gotta stop reading those columns. I still haven't made it to the end of the Voccaro spew.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Q - Fman , what is Mike Vaccaro?A -
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Is every writer in New York a Yankees-loving-hack these days?If Mets fans were showing up less he'd write an article about how yankees fans would be there through thick and thin (ignoring that attendance was so bad that George was threatening to move 15-20 years ago)
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 ="Nymr83":zm6c8vob]Is every writer in New York a Yankees-loving-hack these days?[/quote:zm6c8vob]It does seem that way, doesn't it? I guess it's because the Yankees fans outnumber the Mets fans, and they're pandering to their readers.The Mets lost the city in the 1990's, by sucking for so long, followed by the Yankees winning all those division titles (and those four miserable World Series titles).I don't know what it will take for them to get it back. It was much better in the 1980's, when it was solidly a Mets town. Back then, the conventional wisdom was that New York was a "National League town." I never knew what that meant, but you heard it all the time. It's been a long time since anyone's said that.Edgy DC Aug 20 2009 01:10 PMNew York is a National League town.There.Benjamin Grimm Aug 20 2009 01:13 PMOkay! Now I can say that I have heard it in the last 20 years!Fman99 Aug 20 2009 01:38 PM="metirish":3fyqs5vq]Q - Fman , what is Mike Vaccaro?A -[/quote:3fyqs5vq]I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with punt. "You know something? The Yankees would have tried better than this. They just would have. They would have tried to put a representative product on the field. They might have lost most nights, might have lost 15-2 some nights. But the fans they soak for hundreds-of-dollars worth of seats and eight-dollar beers and six-dollar frankfurters wouldn't have walked away from those nights as sour as Mets fans do." Like I said about Wallace Matthews, Vaccaro doesn't write words as much as he ejaculates them. Buckets of creamy idiocy, spewing from his typewriter.LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 20 2009 01:49 PM="Edgy DC":3itoqzq4]People have to file. The boycott call is irrational, but its a reliable chestnut to fill inches and excite readers.[/quote:3itoqzq4]Psst! Don't look now, but mission accomplished. Mike Vaccaro just got 10 of you to read the article!Benjamin Grimm Aug 20 2009 01:55 PMHope you're not counting me. I didn't read it...metsguyinmichigan Aug 20 2009 02:23 PM="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":bo7donqw]="Edgy DC":bo7donqw]People have to file. The boycott call is irrational, but its a reliable chestnut to fill inches and excite readers.[/quote:bo7donqw]Psst! Don't look now, but mission accomplished. Mike Vaccaro just got 10 of you to read the article![/quote:bo7donqw]Aw hell, right into the trap! Bastard!Nymr83 Aug 20 2009 02:31 PMI didn't read it either, I just saw what was quoted here and decided he was a dumbass.G-Fafif Aug 20 2009 03:16 PMTo be fair, a long time ago I felt I was encouraging Rupert Murdoch by buying the Post, so I quit doing that.PiggiesTomatoes Aug 20 2009 07:40 PM]"You know something? The Yankees would have tried better than this. They just would have. They would have tried to put a representative product on the field. They might have lost most nights, might have lost 15-2 some nights. But the fans they soak for hundreds-of-dollars worth of seats and eight-dollar beers and six-dollar frankfurters wouldn't have walked away from those nights as sour as Mets fans do." Maybe all the YLDB writers are trying to out-douche each other. Reading that earlier today gave me an instant headache.Ashie62 Aug 20 2009 07:42 PMCheer Up..Vaccaro & airbrushed photo..He is 350 lb minimum and a stuttererMike: Fat, slow & Stupid is no way to go through life
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 New York is a National League town.There.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Okay! Now I can say that I have heard it in the last 20 years!
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 ="metirish":3fyqs5vq]Q - Fman , what is Mike Vaccaro?A -[/quote:3fyqs5vq]I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with punt. "You know something? The Yankees would have tried better than this. They just would have. They would have tried to put a representative product on the field. They might have lost most nights, might have lost 15-2 some nights. But the fans they soak for hundreds-of-dollars worth of seats and eight-dollar beers and six-dollar frankfurters wouldn't have walked away from those nights as sour as Mets fans do." Like I said about Wallace Matthews, Vaccaro doesn't write words as much as he ejaculates them. Buckets of creamy idiocy, spewing from his typewriter.LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 20 2009 01:49 PM="Edgy DC":3itoqzq4]People have to file. The boycott call is irrational, but its a reliable chestnut to fill inches and excite readers.[/quote:3itoqzq4]Psst! Don't look now, but mission accomplished. Mike Vaccaro just got 10 of you to read the article!Benjamin Grimm Aug 20 2009 01:55 PMHope you're not counting me. I didn't read it...metsguyinmichigan Aug 20 2009 02:23 PM="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":bo7donqw]="Edgy DC":bo7donqw]People have to file. The boycott call is irrational, but its a reliable chestnut to fill inches and excite readers.[/quote:bo7donqw]Psst! Don't look now, but mission accomplished. Mike Vaccaro just got 10 of you to read the article![/quote:bo7donqw]Aw hell, right into the trap! Bastard!Nymr83 Aug 20 2009 02:31 PMI didn't read it either, I just saw what was quoted here and decided he was a dumbass.G-Fafif Aug 20 2009 03:16 PMTo be fair, a long time ago I felt I was encouraging Rupert Murdoch by buying the Post, so I quit doing that.PiggiesTomatoes Aug 20 2009 07:40 PM]"You know something? The Yankees would have tried better than this. They just would have. They would have tried to put a representative product on the field. They might have lost most nights, might have lost 15-2 some nights. But the fans they soak for hundreds-of-dollars worth of seats and eight-dollar beers and six-dollar frankfurters wouldn't have walked away from those nights as sour as Mets fans do." Maybe all the YLDB writers are trying to out-douche each other. Reading that earlier today gave me an instant headache.Ashie62 Aug 20 2009 07:42 PMCheer Up..Vaccaro & airbrushed photo..He is 350 lb minimum and a stuttererMike: Fat, slow & Stupid is no way to go through life
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 ="Edgy DC":3itoqzq4]People have to file. The boycott call is irrational, but its a reliable chestnut to fill inches and excite readers.[/quote:3itoqzq4]Psst! Don't look now, but mission accomplished. Mike Vaccaro just got 10 of you to read the article!Benjamin Grimm Aug 20 2009 01:55 PMHope you're not counting me. I didn't read it...metsguyinmichigan Aug 20 2009 02:23 PM="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":bo7donqw]="Edgy DC":bo7donqw]People have to file. The boycott call is irrational, but its a reliable chestnut to fill inches and excite readers.[/quote:bo7donqw]Psst! Don't look now, but mission accomplished. Mike Vaccaro just got 10 of you to read the article![/quote:bo7donqw]Aw hell, right into the trap! Bastard!Nymr83 Aug 20 2009 02:31 PMI didn't read it either, I just saw what was quoted here and decided he was a dumbass.G-Fafif Aug 20 2009 03:16 PMTo be fair, a long time ago I felt I was encouraging Rupert Murdoch by buying the Post, so I quit doing that.PiggiesTomatoes Aug 20 2009 07:40 PM]"You know something? The Yankees would have tried better than this. They just would have. They would have tried to put a representative product on the field. They might have lost most nights, might have lost 15-2 some nights. But the fans they soak for hundreds-of-dollars worth of seats and eight-dollar beers and six-dollar frankfurters wouldn't have walked away from those nights as sour as Mets fans do." Maybe all the YLDB writers are trying to out-douche each other. Reading that earlier today gave me an instant headache.Ashie62 Aug 20 2009 07:42 PMCheer Up..Vaccaro & airbrushed photo..He is 350 lb minimum and a stuttererMike: Fat, slow & Stupid is no way to go through life
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Hope you're not counting me. I didn't read it...
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":bo7donqw]="Edgy DC":bo7donqw]People have to file. The boycott call is irrational, but its a reliable chestnut to fill inches and excite readers.[/quote:bo7donqw]Psst! Don't look now, but mission accomplished. Mike Vaccaro just got 10 of you to read the article![/quote:bo7donqw]Aw hell, right into the trap! Bastard!Nymr83 Aug 20 2009 02:31 PMI didn't read it either, I just saw what was quoted here and decided he was a dumbass.G-Fafif Aug 20 2009 03:16 PMTo be fair, a long time ago I felt I was encouraging Rupert Murdoch by buying the Post, so I quit doing that.PiggiesTomatoes Aug 20 2009 07:40 PM]"You know something? The Yankees would have tried better than this. They just would have. They would have tried to put a representative product on the field. They might have lost most nights, might have lost 15-2 some nights. But the fans they soak for hundreds-of-dollars worth of seats and eight-dollar beers and six-dollar frankfurters wouldn't have walked away from those nights as sour as Mets fans do." Maybe all the YLDB writers are trying to out-douche each other. Reading that earlier today gave me an instant headache.Ashie62 Aug 20 2009 07:42 PMCheer Up..Vaccaro & airbrushed photo..He is 350 lb minimum and a stuttererMike: Fat, slow & Stupid is no way to go through life
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 I didn't read it either, I just saw what was quoted here and decided he was a dumbass.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 To be fair, a long time ago I felt I was encouraging Rupert Murdoch by buying the Post, so I quit doing that.
Piggiestomatoes Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 ]"You know something? The Yankees would have tried better than this. They just would have. They would have tried to put a representative product on the field. They might have lost most nights, might have lost 15-2 some nights. But the fans they soak for hundreds-of-dollars worth of seats and eight-dollar beers and six-dollar frankfurters wouldn't have walked away from those nights as sour as Mets fans do." Maybe all the YLDB writers are trying to out-douche each other. Reading that earlier today gave me an instant headache.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Cheer Up..Vaccaro & airbrushed photo..He is 350 lb minimum and a stuttererMike: Fat, slow & Stupid is no way to go through life
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