IGT--Giants @ Mets, 08/17/09

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METS:
Cory Sullivan CF
Luis Castillo 2B
Gary Sheffield LF
Daniel Murphy 1B
Jeff Francoeur Rf
Fernando Tatis 3B
Brian Schneider C
Anderson Hernandez SS
Livan Hernandez RHP (7-7, 5.28)

The Mets go back-to-back with Hernandez's.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Perhaps later in the evening they can go back-to-back with Greens.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Oh, geez, I hadn't realized that until now. Two Greens means more potential Schaefer-tallying confusion.

[Frayed Knot]

="Benjamin Grimm":11zqobe7]Oh, geez, I hadn't realized that until now. Two Greens means more potential Schaefer-tallying confusion.[/quote:11zqobe7] Small potential.

Farmer Ted Aug 17 2009 02:48 PM

I'm thinking Livan knocks it dead or he's dead.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 17 2009 03:04 PM

Does Livan have a higher batting average than the other Hernandez?

Gwreck Aug 17 2009 03:10 PM

="Farmer Ted":397w8b6e]I'm thinking Livan knocks it dead or he's dead.[/quote:397w8b6e] Problem is a lack of alternatives. Unless we want to go back to Redding or Figueroa. Vic Sage Aug 17 2009 03:16 PM i put the over/under on that lineup at 3 runs. Make that 2 runs. I mean 1 run. yeah, 1 run... and i'll take the under. Nymr83 Aug 17 2009 03:41 PM ="Gwreck":38t6ptt0] ="Farmer Ted":38t6ptt0]I'm thinking Livan knocks it dead or he's dead.[/quote:38t6ptt0] Problem is a lack of alternatives. Unless we want to go back to Redding or Figueroa.[/quote:38t6ptt0] theres Dillon Gee Edgy DC Aug 17 2009 05:04 PM I'm fine with Figgy. Kong76 Aug 17 2009 05:16 PM I trust you mean to finish up the season if needed. metsguyinmichigan Aug 17 2009 06:22 PM Get a run back -- and give it right back again..... metirish Aug 17 2009 06:34 PM I don't think Keith has a clue what he is talking about tonight , trying to wing it talking about the 97 Marlins team , not good. Kong76 Aug 17 2009 06:38 PM It was kind of funny when Gary listed Colorado as a road trip destination and then Keith chimed in about Denver too. He's eccentric lol. themetfairy Aug 17 2009 06:52 PM Keith's grudging respect for Murphy at first is significant. Meanwhile, it's 6-1 Giants in the 6th. Ugh. metirish Aug 17 2009 06:55 PM Livan probably done with.....I think Keith may have erred when talking about Sullivan and saying that he is really more of a corner outfielder and not a CF as he is playing there tonight....I think he said it not knowing that CF is in fact his position as it were...not that it matters a jot . LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2009 06:57 PM 6 runs, 12 baserunners in 5 1/3 innings. Maybe it's the heat, but I can't quite tell whether that was a good Livan start or a bad one. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 06:58 PM Meanwhile, 3 of our (scant few) baserunners have been erased. Ashie62 Aug 17 2009 07:30 PM Goodbye Cora..you served us well MFS62 Aug 17 2009 07:42 PM ="Ashie62":jnm4o04x]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:jnm4o04x] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened? Later themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:51 PM There won't be much in the way of Schaefer suds awarded for this one. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM ="MFS62":268edg6n] ="Ashie62":268edg6n]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:268edg6n] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:268edg6n] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:268edg6n]both[/u:268edg6n] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end. themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM This one is finally put out of our misery. What a fucking lackluster performance from these guys. Fman99 Aug 17 2009 08:48 PM ="Frayed Knot":1yqbark2] ="MFS62":1yqbark2] ="Ashie62":1yqbark2]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:1yqbark2] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:1yqbark2] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:1yqbark2]both[/u:1yqbark2] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end.[/quote:1yqbark2] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one. MFS62 Aug 17 2009 09:22 PM ="Fman99":2fwzd1h1] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one.[/quote:2fwzd1h1] Thank you for that Kodak moment. Please spare us a link. Later John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:42 PM Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening. I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it. Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings. Redding has been a complete disaster this year. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 09:51 PM I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw. Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force. Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner. Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:09 PM Just a top-5 ugly game this year. How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around? MFS62 Aug 17 2009 10:22 PM ="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

[Farmer Ted]

I'm thinking Livan knocks it dead or he's dead.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Does Livan have a higher batting average than the other Hernandez?

[Gwreck]

="Farmer Ted":397w8b6e]I'm thinking Livan knocks it dead or he's dead.[/quote:397w8b6e] Problem is a lack of alternatives. Unless we want to go back to Redding or Figueroa.

Vic Sage Aug 17 2009 03:16 PM

i put the over/under on that lineup at 3 runs. Make that 2 runs. I mean 1 run. yeah, 1 run... and i'll take the under.

Nymr83 Aug 17 2009 03:41 PM

="Gwreck":38t6ptt0] ="Farmer Ted":38t6ptt0]I'm thinking Livan knocks it dead or he's dead.[/quote:38t6ptt0] Problem is a lack of alternatives. Unless we want to go back to Redding or Figueroa.[/quote:38t6ptt0] theres Dillon Gee Edgy DC Aug 17 2009 05:04 PM I'm fine with Figgy. Kong76 Aug 17 2009 05:16 PM I trust you mean to finish up the season if needed. metsguyinmichigan Aug 17 2009 06:22 PM Get a run back -- and give it right back again..... metirish Aug 17 2009 06:34 PM I don't think Keith has a clue what he is talking about tonight , trying to wing it talking about the 97 Marlins team , not good. Kong76 Aug 17 2009 06:38 PM It was kind of funny when Gary listed Colorado as a road trip destination and then Keith chimed in about Denver too. He's eccentric lol. themetfairy Aug 17 2009 06:52 PM Keith's grudging respect for Murphy at first is significant. Meanwhile, it's 6-1 Giants in the 6th. Ugh. metirish Aug 17 2009 06:55 PM Livan probably done with.....I think Keith may have erred when talking about Sullivan and saying that he is really more of a corner outfielder and not a CF as he is playing there tonight....I think he said it not knowing that CF is in fact his position as it were...not that it matters a jot . LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2009 06:57 PM 6 runs, 12 baserunners in 5 1/3 innings. Maybe it's the heat, but I can't quite tell whether that was a good Livan start or a bad one. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 06:58 PM Meanwhile, 3 of our (scant few) baserunners have been erased. Ashie62 Aug 17 2009 07:30 PM Goodbye Cora..you served us well MFS62 Aug 17 2009 07:42 PM ="Ashie62":jnm4o04x]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:jnm4o04x] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened? Later themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:51 PM There won't be much in the way of Schaefer suds awarded for this one. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM ="MFS62":268edg6n] ="Ashie62":268edg6n]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:268edg6n] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:268edg6n] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:268edg6n]both[/u:268edg6n] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end. themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM This one is finally put out of our misery. What a fucking lackluster performance from these guys. Fman99 Aug 17 2009 08:48 PM ="Frayed Knot":1yqbark2] ="MFS62":1yqbark2] ="Ashie62":1yqbark2]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:1yqbark2] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:1yqbark2] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:1yqbark2]both[/u:1yqbark2] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end.[/quote:1yqbark2] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one. MFS62 Aug 17 2009 09:22 PM ="Fman99":2fwzd1h1] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one.[/quote:2fwzd1h1] Thank you for that Kodak moment. Please spare us a link. Later John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:42 PM Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening. I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it. Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings. Redding has been a complete disaster this year. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 09:51 PM I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw. Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force. Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner. Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:09 PM Just a top-5 ugly game this year. How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around? MFS62 Aug 17 2009 10:22 PM ="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

[Vic Sage]

i put the over/under on that lineup at 3 runs. Make that 2 runs. I mean 1 run. yeah, 1 run... and i'll take the under.

[nymr83]

="Gwreck":38t6ptt0] ="Farmer Ted":38t6ptt0]I'm thinking Livan knocks it dead or he's dead.[/quote:38t6ptt0] Problem is a lack of alternatives. Unless we want to go back to Redding or Figueroa.[/quote:38t6ptt0] theres Dillon Gee Edgy DC Aug 17 2009 05:04 PM I'm fine with Figgy. Kong76 Aug 17 2009 05:16 PM I trust you mean to finish up the season if needed. metsguyinmichigan Aug 17 2009 06:22 PM Get a run back -- and give it right back again..... metirish Aug 17 2009 06:34 PM I don't think Keith has a clue what he is talking about tonight , trying to wing it talking about the 97 Marlins team , not good. Kong76 Aug 17 2009 06:38 PM It was kind of funny when Gary listed Colorado as a road trip destination and then Keith chimed in about Denver too. He's eccentric lol. themetfairy Aug 17 2009 06:52 PM Keith's grudging respect for Murphy at first is significant. Meanwhile, it's 6-1 Giants in the 6th. Ugh. metirish Aug 17 2009 06:55 PM Livan probably done with.....I think Keith may have erred when talking about Sullivan and saying that he is really more of a corner outfielder and not a CF as he is playing there tonight....I think he said it not knowing that CF is in fact his position as it were...not that it matters a jot . LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2009 06:57 PM 6 runs, 12 baserunners in 5 1/3 innings. Maybe it's the heat, but I can't quite tell whether that was a good Livan start or a bad one. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 06:58 PM Meanwhile, 3 of our (scant few) baserunners have been erased. Ashie62 Aug 17 2009 07:30 PM Goodbye Cora..you served us well MFS62 Aug 17 2009 07:42 PM ="Ashie62":jnm4o04x]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:jnm4o04x] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened? Later themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:51 PM There won't be much in the way of Schaefer suds awarded for this one. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM ="MFS62":268edg6n] ="Ashie62":268edg6n]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:268edg6n] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:268edg6n] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:268edg6n]both[/u:268edg6n] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end. themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM This one is finally put out of our misery. What a fucking lackluster performance from these guys. Fman99 Aug 17 2009 08:48 PM ="Frayed Knot":1yqbark2] ="MFS62":1yqbark2] ="Ashie62":1yqbark2]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:1yqbark2] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:1yqbark2] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:1yqbark2]both[/u:1yqbark2] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end.[/quote:1yqbark2] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one. MFS62 Aug 17 2009 09:22 PM ="Fman99":2fwzd1h1] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one.[/quote:2fwzd1h1] Thank you for that Kodak moment. Please spare us a link. Later John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:42 PM Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening. I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it. Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings. Redding has been a complete disaster this year. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 09:51 PM I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw. Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force. Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner. Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:09 PM Just a top-5 ugly game this year. How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around? MFS62 Aug 17 2009 10:22 PM ="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm fine with Figgy.

[Guest Kong76]

I trust you mean to finish up the season if needed.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Get a run back -- and give it right back again.....

[metirish]

I don't think Keith has a clue what he is talking about tonight , trying to wing it talking about the 97 Marlins team , not good.

[Guest Kong76]

It was kind of funny when Gary listed Colorado as a road trip destination
and then Keith chimed in about Denver too.

He's eccentric lol.

[Guest themetfairy]

Keith's grudging respect for Murphy at first is significant.

Meanwhile, it's 6-1 Giants in the 6th. Ugh.

[metirish]

Livan probably done with.....I think Keith may have erred when talking about Sullivan and saying that he is really more of a corner outfielder and not a CF as he is playing there tonight....I think he said it not knowing that CF is in fact his position as it were...not that it matters a jot .

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

6 runs, 12 baserunners in 5 1/3 innings.

Maybe it's the heat, but I can't quite tell whether that was a good Livan start or a bad one.

[Frayed Knot]

Meanwhile, 3 of our (scant few) baserunners have been erased.

[ashie62]

Goodbye Cora..you served us well

[MFS62]

="Ashie62":jnm4o04x]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:jnm4o04x] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened? Later

themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:51 PM

There won't be much in the way of Schaefer suds awarded for this one.

Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM

="MFS62":268edg6n] ="Ashie62":268edg6n]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:268edg6n] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:268edg6n] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:268edg6n]both[/u:268edg6n] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end. themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM This one is finally put out of our misery. What a fucking lackluster performance from these guys. Fman99 Aug 17 2009 08:48 PM ="Frayed Knot":1yqbark2] ="MFS62":1yqbark2] ="Ashie62":1yqbark2]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:1yqbark2] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:1yqbark2] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:1yqbark2]both[/u:1yqbark2] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end.[/quote:1yqbark2] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one. MFS62 Aug 17 2009 09:22 PM ="Fman99":2fwzd1h1] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one.[/quote:2fwzd1h1] Thank you for that Kodak moment. Please spare us a link. Later John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:42 PM Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening. I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it. Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings. Redding has been a complete disaster this year. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 09:51 PM I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw. Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force. Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner. Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:09 PM Just a top-5 ugly game this year. How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around? MFS62 Aug 17 2009 10:22 PM ="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

[Guest themetfairy]

There won't be much in the way of Schaefer suds awarded for this one.

[Frayed Knot]

="MFS62":268edg6n] ="Ashie62":268edg6n]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:268edg6n] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:268edg6n] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:268edg6n]both[/u:268edg6n] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end. themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM This one is finally put out of our misery. What a fucking lackluster performance from these guys. Fman99 Aug 17 2009 08:48 PM ="Frayed Knot":1yqbark2] ="MFS62":1yqbark2] ="Ashie62":1yqbark2]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:1yqbark2] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:1yqbark2] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:1yqbark2]both[/u:1yqbark2] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end.[/quote:1yqbark2] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one. MFS62 Aug 17 2009 09:22 PM ="Fman99":2fwzd1h1] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one.[/quote:2fwzd1h1] Thank you for that Kodak moment. Please spare us a link. Later John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:42 PM Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening. I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it. Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings. Redding has been a complete disaster this year. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 09:51 PM I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw. Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force. Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner. Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:09 PM Just a top-5 ugly game this year. How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around? MFS62 Aug 17 2009 10:22 PM ="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

[Guest themetfairy]

This one is finally put out of our misery.

What a fucking lackluster performance from these guys.

[Fman99]

="Frayed Knot":1yqbark2] ="MFS62":1yqbark2] ="Ashie62":1yqbark2]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:1yqbark2] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:1yqbark2] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:1yqbark2]both[/u:1yqbark2] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end.[/quote:1yqbark2] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one. MFS62 Aug 17 2009 09:22 PM ="Fman99":2fwzd1h1] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one.[/quote:2fwzd1h1] Thank you for that Kodak moment. Please spare us a link. Later John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:42 PM Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening. I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it. Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings. Redding has been a complete disaster this year. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 09:51 PM I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw. Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force. Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner. Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:09 PM Just a top-5 ugly game this year. How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around? MFS62 Aug 17 2009 10:22 PM ="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

[MFS62]

="Fman99":2fwzd1h1] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one.[/quote:2fwzd1h1] Thank you for that Kodak moment. Please spare us a link. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:42 PM

Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening. I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it. Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings. Redding has been a complete disaster this year.

Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 09:51 PM

I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw. Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force. Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner.

Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:09 PM

Just a top-5 ugly game this year. How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?

MFS62 Aug 17 2009 10:22 PM

="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening.

I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it.

Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings.

Redding has been a complete disaster this year.

[Frayed Knot]

I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw.


Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force.


Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner.

[Gwreck]

Just a top-5 ugly game this year.

How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?

[MFS62]

="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later

Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM

And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.

MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM

="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

[Gwreck]

And so we go with Livan again?

Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.