Reyes, Right & Records II

[Frayed Knot]

I did this same thing a year ago so I figured it needs an update now that another season is behind us.

It's a look at where Reyes & Wright are in respect to all-time team offensive records and a guestimate as to when they'll reach those marks.

STAT	RECORD	HOLDER	REYES	PLACE	Pct	Proj?	WRIGHT	PLACE	Pct	Proj?
ABs	5,436	Kranepool	3,206	10th	59%	2012	2,650	18th	49%	---
Hits	1,418	Kranepool	919	11th	65%	2011	819	12th	58%	---
Doubles	225	Kranepool	155	10th	69%	---	183	6th	81%	2009/10
Triples	62	Wilson	71	1st	---	2008	10	T-37	16%	---
HRs	252	Strawberry	61	26th	24%	---	130	5th	52%	2013
Total Bases	2,047	Kranepool	1,399	9th	68%	2012	1,412	8th	69%	2012
RBIs	733	Strawberry	310	22nd	42%	---	489	7th	67%	2011
Stolen Bases	281	Wilson	291	1st	---	2008	92	11th	33%	---
Walks	580	Strawberry	241	23rd	42%	---	340	13th	59%	2011
Runs	662	Strawberry	533	7th	81%	2010	464	10th	70%	---
Strike Outs	960	Strwberry	386	22nd	40%	---	499	13th	52%	2013

Doubles is the interesting stat to follow next year.
Wright is 42 away from tying Kranepool and has hit exactly 42 doubles in 3 of the last 4 seasons (40 in the other) so his typical year would put him right on the brink.

The other is Total Bases where they've been neck-and-neck with each other for a while now.

Edited September 30, 2008 by Guest

[Benjamin Grimm]

Reyes is only about a season and a half (let's say June of 2010) from getting to second place on the Mets all-time hits list.

His next 270 hits will allow him to pass, in order, Keith Hernandez, Jerry Grote, Howard Johnson, Darryl Strawberry, Mike Piazza, Bud Harrelson, Mookie Wilson, Edgardo Alfonzo, and Cleon Jones.

Only three hits separate HoJo and Grote, and only four separate Strawberry, Piazza, and Harrelson.

1. Ed Kranepool 1418
2. Cleon Jones 1188
3. Edgardo Alfonzo 1136
4. Mookie Wilson 1112
5. Bud Harrelson 1029
6. Mike Piazza 1028
7. Darryl Strawberry 1025
8. Howard Johnson 997
9. Jerry Grote 994
10. Keith Hernandez 939
11. Jos� Reyes 919

[G-Fafif]

Guys who have already made such an impact on Met history really should have been invited out for the Shea Goodbye ceremony.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree. Todd Zeile and Jim McAndrew were out there, but Jose Reyes and David Wright don't get to touch home plate one more time?

(No disrespect to Todd Zeile, and CERTAINLY no disrespect to the Pride of Lost Nation, Iowa, but there were a few more legendary Mets than them in the Shea clubhouse during that ceremony.)

[G-Fafif]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: 1. Ed Kranepool 1418 2. Cleon Jones 1188 3. Edgardo Alfonzo 1136

Even in his reduced post-Mets state, Fonzie would have passed Krane for sure by the end of '04, the beginning of '05. I watched the all-time hit leader charts on the scoreboard in Fonzie's last Met year and anticipated the day he bumped the other Eddie from No. 1. Nobody else who got remotely close to Krane had any kind of production after leaving the Mets.

Never got over Fonzie's departure completely until he walked on to the field in No. 13 Sunday evening.

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

G-Fafif wrote: Guys who have already made such an impact on Met history really should have been invited out for the Shea Goodbye ceremony.

I don't think they would have been in the mood.

[G-Fafif]

Vince Coleman Firecracker wrote: ="G-Fafif"]Guys who have already made such an impact on Met history really should have been invited out for the Shea Goodbye ceremony. I don't think they would have been in the mood.

Too true. And beyond the implications for the 2008 postseason, what a shame.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I'm amazed that after all these years, Krane is still atop all these records. Granted, playing 17 years with one club will do that. But, wow, that's a long time for those to stand.

[seawolf17]

G-Fafif wrote: ="Vince Coleman Firecracker"] G-Fafif wrote: Guys who have already made such an impact on Met history really should have been invited out for the Shea Goodbye ceremony. I don't think they would have been in the mood. Too true. And beyond the implications for the 2008 postseason, what a shame.

I wonder if they would have brought them out if they'd won.

I'd like to know where the hell Kevin McReynolds was on Sunday, quite frankly. The only all-time top 20 Mets in games played who weren't even mentioned were him, Rey Ordonez (who might have been booed), and John Milner, who was dead last time I checked. Not cool, Mets.

[stevejrogers]

I was about to say that yeah, coming off a loss I wouldn't want Wright or Reyes to get showered with boos, but you know what, the last day of the season is traditionally Fan Appreciation Day.

So yeah, even if the Mets told them not to, Wright and Reyes should have taken the opportunity, before Mike and Tom started their walk to the gate.

Then bring out the 2008 Mets, say a few nice words (sure certain fans would have taken them as hollow, but who cares at that point) and give one last curtain call the way the Mets USED to do it on Fan Appreciation Days.

Then Reyes and Wright walk WITH Piazza and Seaver through the gate out in CF.

[Benjamin Grimm]

SteveJRogers wrote: Then Reyes and Wright walk WITH Piazza and Seaver through the gate out in CF.

No. That ending was perfect as it was.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

metsguy - "I'm amazed that after all these years, Krane is still atop all these records. Granted, playing 17 years with one club will do that. But, wow, that's a long time for those to stand."

Yet, he ranks only eleventh on the all time player ranking on his namesake forum. A long career of mediocrity for a succession of mostly bad teams may allow one to amass records, but it will not mark one for greatness.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Rockin' Doc wrote: metsguy - "I'm amazed that after all these years, Krane is still atop all these records. Granted, playing 17 years with one club will do that. But, wow, that's a long time for those to stand." Yet, he ranks only eleventh on the all time player ranking on his namesake forum. A long career of mediocrity for a succession of mostly bad teams may allow one to amass records, but it will not mark one for greatness.

Eddie outranks John Olerud on the CPF. What would you rather have: 17 years of Kranepool or three years of Olie?

[Guest AG/DC]

All other things being equal, it's hard to say. You take one, you may well just stumble into the other, over 17 years.

[Guest Kong76]

bmags: Eddie outranks John Olerud on the CPF. What would you rather have: 17 years of Kranepool or three years of Olie?<<<

Guess it depends what you're looking for. Clearly seventeen years of service
to a team, whether he makes one's fantasy stats heart pump or not, is going
to outscore a guy with three. This would happen on a ranking of any team's
players.

If ya got a beef with Kranepool, take it to the ranking threads.