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[Guest AG/DC]

Sports Illustrated has back issues online.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19691222&mode=reader_vault

[Guest Triple Dee]

Does anybody remember the date of the "Amazing Mess" issue?

[Guest themetfairy]

Triple Dee wrote: Does anybody remember the date of the "Amazing Mess" issue?

3d - Here you go.

[Guest Triple Dee]

Tnank you, kindly -- I've wanted to re-read this issue for a while.

[Guest themetfairy]

You're very welcome - enjoy

[batmagadanleadoff]

TripleDee asks:
"Does anybody remember the date of the "Amazing Mess" issue?"
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The "Amazing Mets" (That's "Mets, not "Mess") SI issue cited above featuring Darryl Strawberry on the cover is really both a play on words and a response to an earlier SI issue from the month before, dated June 11, 1990.

The June 11, 1990 issue (NBA Playoffs cover featuring Isiah Thomas on the cover -- and isn't Isiah another NY mess, really?) included an article on the Mets entitled "Amazing Mess". The June article reported on the
apparent demise of the Davey Johnson era powerhouse Mets that began practically every single season under Johnson as the NL favorites to get to the World Series. By the time of that June issue, the Mets were floundering; Johnson having been recently relieved of his managerial duties. Most of Johnson's core players were going or gone; Keith and Gary's careers were on their last legs; Gooden was good, but no longer great; Kevin Mitchell was the defending NL MVP, but for the SF Giants, Lenny Dyk$tra was playing like the league's next MVP as a member of the division rival Philadelphia Phillies and Randy Myers had emerged as one of baseball's best relievers and a Nasty Boy - a key member of that season's eventual World Series Champ Cincinnati Reds. Apparently, the Mets were the only team not benefitting from the fruits of their very own fabulous farm system of the previous decade. SI was covering the end of a wonderful Mets era, certainly the team's best ever when based purely on the Mets' competitiveness.

As soon as the June 11, 1990 magazine hit the newstands, the Mets got hot. Very hot. If you remember, the Mets won 20 out of their next 22 games, beginning with three out of four wins in a weekday series in Wrigley Field where the Mets simply pounded the Cubs into submission. I believe that Dave Magadan, the inspiration for my username here, finally secured an every day spot in the lineup for himself there and then in Chicago and set a Met record which still stands today for most hits by a Met in a four game road series. Of course, 1990 would be Magadan's best Met year ever and in many ways, one of the best singular seasons turned in by any Met batter.

Darryl Strawberry, in what would be his last year as a Met, probably played the best ball of his Met career during this - and there's really no other word for it - amazing stretch of Mets baseball. Perhaps the cause and effect relationship between a player's walk year and his higher than expected performance in that same year is true - Strawberry certainly didn't disprove that theory in the Summer of 1990.

The Mets were too unbelievably torrid over the next month following the June 11, 1990 SI issue, for the sports world not to take notice. And so one month later, SI ran a follow-up story on the suddenly back in contention Mets featuring its' best and hottest player on the cover. The word "Mess" appears on that cover, but crossed out and replaced by the word "Mets". So the July cover reads: "The Amazing Mets", SI's play on words and an obvious reference to their earlier "Amazing Mess" article.

Anyway, perhaps it is the June issue that you remembered. In any event, now you can access both SI issues.

BTW, this is my first post here. I have been following the MBTN and UltMDB web sites over the past few years, and recently, I have dipped into the blog/forum web site universe.

P.S. Nice avatar. Where'dja get it.?

[metirish]

Gotta say that's a darn fine first post, Jim the Monstrously Huge Batboy would be proud.

Welcome.

[Benjamin Grimm]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: BTW, this is my first post here. I have been following the MBTN and UltMDB web sites over the past few years, and recently, I have dipped into the blog/forum web site universe.

Welcome! (Be prepared for a few Mike Bordick references.)

[Valadius]

Welcome a-bordick!

[batmagadanleadoff]

Well, thanks for the welcome. Of course I can't reply intelligently without revealing just how much of a newbie I am here.

What the hell is all that lingo? Somebody get me a CPF dictionary.

[Guest AG/DC]

You'll figure it out.

Posters with an agenda for a handle are tiresome. Posters with an agenda fron 18 years ago for an agenda are alright. Welcome a-Bordick.

[Frayed Knot]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: What the hell is all that lingo? Somebody get me a CPF dictionary.

Reading the FAQs might help a bit (link up top next to the image and intro).
Or maybe it won't, but there's some good jokes in there so you might as well read it anyway.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm writes:
Welcome! (Be prepared for a few Mike Bordick references.)
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Hey! Wait a second! That can't be good because Mike Bordick sucked and I hated Mike Bordick and I'd explain fully but this would require another lengthy post seguing into how I absolutely loved Melvin Mora at short before there was ever a Bordick Met and so did Bobby Valentine and that's one of the reasons why I loved Bobby V is because I think that Bobby thinks like me and how I hated Rey Ordonez and not just because Rey offended the fans but how I hated Rey for years before that and how I think Bobby V hated Ordonez also and so I loved Bobby V even more just for that and come to think of it how Rey is one of my most despised Mets ever and doesn't every Met fan have their own personal list of most depised Mets and if the Mets hadda wait for Rey to offend some fans before finally deciding that Rey didn't deserve no 500 plate appearances every single season that something was seriously wrong in Met town and what the hay is a Bordick reference. Help.

[Guest AG/DC]

Inhale.

[Guest Triple Dee]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: The "Amazing Mets" (That's "Mets, not "Mess") SI issue cited above featuring Darryl Strawberry on the cover is really both a play on words and a response to an earlier SI issue from the month before, dated June 11, 1990.

Actually, I heard somebody else on CPF refer to this as the "Amazing Mess cover" which is why I referred to it in that way.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: The June 11, 1990 issue (NBA Playoffs cover featuring Isiah Thomas on the cover -- and isn't Isiah another NY mess, really?) included an article on the Mets entitled "Amazing Mess". The June article reported on the apparent demise of the Davey Johnson era powerhouse Mets

This was actually the first issue of SI I ever purchased. I think it planted the seed that led to my sad devotion to a ballclub from Queens. The title of the article more aptly described subsequent seasons. But I was aware this was a different issue. Thanks anyway.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: BTW, this is my first post here. I have been following the MBTN and UltMDB web sites over the past few years, and recently, I have dipped into the blog/forum web site universe. P.S. Nice avatar. Where'dja get it.?

Welcome to CPF. I'm relatively new here myself. I got the avatar from
this fine website .

[seawolf17]

Hey! New guy! Cool. Welcome.

[Guest themetfairy]

Welcome!

[Guest sharpie]

welcome.

[metirish]

Will pay you to stick around.

[metsmarathon]

can i get paid, too?

[m.e.t.b.o.t.]

if m.e.t.b.o.t. were offered remuneration in exchange for continued participation in human-robot interactions via the crane pool forum, perhaps m.e.t.b.o.t. could afford better programming, even pronouns.

[metirish]

Well I have an old can of oil here, would that do you for compensation?

[m.e.t.b.o.t.]

human poster metrish has accurately determined that robots cannot sufficiently bluff humans. a can of oil has little value in terms of hiring competent programmers, and therefore cannot aid m.e.t.b.o.t. in acquiring the usage of pronouns, and surely human poster metirish has also determined that without access to the crane pool forum and its schaeffer voting, there would be little reason for m.e.t.b.o.t. to be wound into action.

m.e.t.b.o.t. will continue to post free of charge.

[batmagadanleadoff]

metirish writes:
"Will pay you to stick around."
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OK by me. And then I'll pay you back some but not all of what you pay me to teach me how to get other poster's quotes inside of that neat quote box and also, to tell me what a Bordick reference is because I looked but did not find the answer to that one.

Thanks to everyone for all the welcomes coming my way here.

[Benjamin Grimm]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: OK by me. And then I'll pay you back some but not all of what you pay me to teach me how to get other poster's quotes inside of that neat quote box.

Click the "quote" icon that appears alongside the post that you want to quote.

[metsmarathon]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: metirish writes: "Will pay you to stick around." _______________________ OK by me. And then I'll pay you back some but not all of what you pay me to teach me how to get other poster's quotes inside of that neat quote box and also, to tell me what a Bordick reference is because I looked but did not find the answer to that one. Thanks to everyone for all the welcomes coming my way here.

see the orange bar that separates the individual posts on this thread?

look all the way to the right hand side of the bar, and just below it is a button labeled "quote"

click on that button.

it will take you to a "post a reply page" with the quoted text conveniently placed within a pair of matched [ quote ] [/ quote ] brackets. (without the spaces)

to tailor the quote, feel free to delete words. to misquote people, put in new words (this is always fun, and a good way to end up in the red light forum!)

you can type in the quote-brackety things at any time, like if you want to make it look like you're quoting a newspaper, another website, or an imaginary friend, see:

="m.e.t.b.o.t."] greetings human

m.e.t.b.o.t. never wrote that, but i quoted him just the same. what fun!

welcome a-bordick derives from a standard greeting of welcome aboard, combined with the aforementioned mike bordick. it was used as a headline on some local new york news paper, iirc, after he hit a home run to win a game in his met debut. the home run hitting and the helping to win games would not continue to be done by bordick, but the greeting lives on.

maybe it could be viewed as a cautionary - we're glad you've joined us and started contributing. but don't drop off like this guy (bordick), or you might just end up unappreciated and unmissed, maybe even reviled. but, hey, at least we didnt give up melvin mora for you.

well, that's my conjecture anyways...

[metirish]

m.e.t.b.o.t. wrote: m.e.t.b.o.t. will continue to post free of charge.

If you had a slot I would feed you quarters .

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Click the "quote" icon that appears alongside the post that you want to quote.

[Guest themetfairy]

metirish wrote: Will pay you to stick around.

That hiatus of mine would have been a lot shorter if you were willing to cough up the bucks last year. Cheapass management....

[seawolf17]

themetfairy wrote: ="metirish"]Will pay you to stick around. That hiatus of mine would have been a lot shorter if you were willing to cough up the bucks last year. Cheapass management....

Hey! We offered you a minor league deal, with access to the NBF only. I didn't see any other fora knocking on your door.