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twins fans say:

]Minaya didn't compromise at all and Smith just bent over asked to get fucked.

]Ridiculous... that's all I can say

]It does look disappointing, but it's fine at this point. It does suck though they couldn't get Martinez

]It looks terrible right now, but in the future this could end up being something like the AJ trade. What if all of these players reach their full potential? Our pitching would be set for a LONG time, and we would have our CF of the future.

But for right now... wow, I hate this trade


]It'll be a better deal for the Twins if Johan's arm falls off within the next 6-9 months.


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I know one Twins Fan, and he hates it. Thinks that Santana and Liriano would have made them a World Series contender this year. He wanted to wait until deadline.


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It does look disappointing, but it's fine at this point. It does suck though they couldn't get Martinez


A poster in need of shock therapy.


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That didn't end there.

Frozented9 wrote:
I have started drinking I suggest you all do the same.



="Shores, Esq"]I thought Billy Smith just showed us the deadly consequences that alcohol can have...


="FrozenTed9"]This is the second to worst day in my life next to getting my DUI so that's fitting.


Hang in there, Ted.


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]Stalin ... Napoleon ... Chairman Mao... Pol Pot and... JP MORGAN ?!


I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that they were inspired by one of their best player's unofficial nicknames: Chairman Mauer.


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From a Twins fan named Nikephoros, who I have met several times after meeting him on another board:

]'d rather have had a package including Hughes/Horn/Jackson/Tabata or Ellsbury/Lowrie/Masterson/Crisp myself, but I'm okay with this deal, too. Granted, having Phil Hughes as the centerpiece of a trade gets me more excited than Gomez, but the Twins needed to pull a deal and they did it. I'm kind of glad that it's over (or soon will be), to be honest. The franchise can focus on Francisco Liriano and hope he'll step into the void left by Santana. Maybe not a banner day to be a Twins fan, but not the end of the world, either.

- N.


Later


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Aaron Gleeman sez:
http://www.aarongleeman.com/

]In a perfect world Santana would christen the new ballpark with an Opening Day start in 2010 and wear a Twins cap on his Hall of Fame plaque, but for whatever reason his remaining in Minnesota never seemed to be a legitimate option once the trade rumors began swirling. Swapping him for packages led by Hughes or Ellsbury would have put the Twins in a better position for both short- and long-term success, so if either of those deals were passed on then Smith made a major mistake.
With that said, getting Gomez, Guerra, Mulvey, and Humber from the Mets likely beats keeping Santana for one more season and taking a pair of draft picks when he departs as a free agent. A toolsy center fielder who hasn't shown much offensively, a very raw 18-year-old pitcher, and a pair of MLB-ready middle-of-the-rotation starters is no one's idea of a great haul for Santana, but it's not a horrible one and Smith may have backed himself into a corner by not jumping on better offers immediately.

The end result of a bad situation handled poorly is a mediocre package of players that has no one excited, but even acquiring Hughes or Ellsbury wouldn't have made losing Santana easy to live with. Trading away one of the best players in franchise history while he's still at the top of his game is a horrible thing and doing so without getting the best possible return for him is extremely disappointing, but the Santana trade still has a chance to work out in the Twins' favor. It just could have been better.


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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
"One of the best players in franchise history."

That's saying a lot! Walter Johnson pitched for that franchise!
I don't think the people in Minneapolis think of it in those terms. Despite the history, most figure the team only dates back to 1961.


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