Let It Go Already (Split from Standings)

[Gwreck]

I've always advocated using Springsteen's "Glory Days" for that singalong spot.

[G-Fafif]

Edgy DC wrote: Ew.

Interesting point.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Gwreck wrote: I've always advocated using Springsteen's "Glory Days" for that singalong spot.

ew

[metirish]

I'm certain jeff Keppinger came to bat tonight to AC/DC's "TNT"....which is just funny.

[G-Fafif]

People, certainly Mets fans, seem to be self-conscious by nature. Asking them to sing on command serves to make them recede further into their humility shell (chant and clap? sure; sing? uh, you start...). Everybody cringed at "Our Team, Our Time" last year so they gave us the "Meet the Mets" singalong and few really sing along. Nobody sung along to "The Curly Shuffle". They cheered it, but they didn't sing even the "hey mo/hey mo" part. Maybe the best you can hope for are a few "oh oh oh"s when they arise.

I wonder if XM has sold one more subscription based on this particular sponsorship. (I could do without the announcement of "tonight's selection" as if it's ever anything but "Sweet Caroline".)

[Willets Point]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: ="Gwreck"]I've always advocated using Springsteen's "Glory Days" for that singalong spot. ew

Music snob.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

And proud of it.

I'm tellin ya. I saw Bruce and his non E Streeters back in 91 or 92 and they did Glory Days as a finale, not Rosalita or something with real sack. The rubes and lowbrows loved it. I sat there thinking no way he's last long enough to rip off Tommy Tutone.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Spread out now Rosie, doctor come cut loose her mama's reins
You know playin' blind man's bluff is a little baby's game
You pick up Little Dynamite, I'm gonna pick up Little Gun
And together we're gonna go out tonight, and make that highway run
You don't have to call me 'lieutenant,' Rosie and I don't want to be your son
The only lover I'm ever gonna need's your soft sweet little girl's tongue Rosie, you're the one!

Dynamite's in the belfry, playin' with the bats
Little Gun's downtown in front of Woolworth's, tryin' out his attitude on all the cats
Papa's on the corner, waitin' for the bus
Mama she's home in the window, waitin' up for us
She'll be there in that chair when they wrestle her upstairs, 'cuz you know we ain't gonna come
I ain't here for business, I'm only here for fun
And Rosie you're the one!

Rosalita, jump a little lighter!
Señorita, come sit by my fire!
I just want to be your love, ain't no lie!
Rosalita you're my stone desire!

Jack the Rabbit and Weak Knees Willie, you know they're gonna be there
Ah, sloppy Sue and Big Bones Billie, they'll be comin' up for air
We're gonna play some pool, skip some school, act real cool
Stay out all night, it's gonna feel all right
So Rosie come out tonight, baby come out tonight
Windows are for cheaters, chimneys for the poor
Closets are for hangers, winners use the door
So use it Rosie, that's what it's there for!

Rosalita, jump a little lighter!
Señorita, come sit by my fire!
I just want to be your love, ain't no lie!
Rosalita you're my stone desire!

Now I know your mama she don't like me 'cause I play in a rock and roll band
And I know your daddy he don't dig me, but he never did understand
Papa lowered the boom, he locked you in your room, I'm comin' to lend a hand
I'm comin' to liberate you, confiscate you, I want to be your man
Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny
But now you're sad, your mama's mad...
And your papa says he knows that I don't have any money!
And your papa says he knows that I don't have any money!

Tell him this is last chance
To get his daughter in a fine romance
Because a record company, Rosie
Just gave me a big advance

My tires were slashed and I almost crashed but the Lord had mercy
My machine she's a dud, I'm stuck in the mud somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Hold on tight, stay up all night, 'cause Rosie I'm comin' on strong
By the time we meet the morning light, I will hold you in my arms
I know a pretty little place in Southern California, down San Diego way
There's a little cafe, where they play guitars all night and day
You can hear them in the back room strummin'
So hold tight baby, 'cause don't you know daddy's comin'

SLOW!

Rosalita, jump a little lighter!
Señorita, come sit by my fire!
I just want to be your love, ain't no lie!
Rosalita you're my stone desire!

Ya ya ya ya

Hey! hey! hey hey! Hey! hey! hey hey!
Hey! hey! hey hey! Hey! hey! hey hey!

[Gwreck]

Even at the height of not just music by my own Springsteen snobbery, I can still understand and appreciate the value of "Glory Days."

Where did you see him in '92? Those shows varied widely in quality, moreso perhaps than any of his other tours.

[Elster88]

On the other hand, they could just get rid of "the singalong" altogether and leave it to pre-school where it belongs.

[HahnSolo]

Not to defend the Mets about Sweet Caroline, but isn't the playing of that song tied in with a sponsor? I thought that was the case the last two times I was at Shea.

[seawolf17]

Detroit should throw some Alice Cooper in there also. Maybe "Detroit City."

I'll say this about "Piano Man"... when we saw Billy live at the Coliseum a few years back, and when Billy and the band cut out during the last chorus and let 12,000 people sing that song together, in tune and in unison, it's pretty frigging cool. It probably wouldn't work in a ballpark, though, as it's too slow.

[Guest Edgy DC]

The Giants wore that NY insignia in orange on black hats for decades, why can't the Mets? The blue insignia outlined by orange on a field of black is abominiable. The blue and black clash and the orange seems like a hasty solution to that problem, but ends up broadly overdrawing the logo and destroys the simplistic beauty of the thing. It's a domino effect of ugly.

In fact, I think, at many levels, the imposition of black into the color scheme has started a cascade of ugly. The blue brims, Rick Peterson's jacket, the sleestack batting helmet.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Gwreck wrote: Even at the height of not just music by my own Springsteen snobbery, I can still understand and appreciate the value of "Glory Days." Where did you see him in '92? Those shows varied widely in quality, moreso perhaps than any of his other tours.

The Spectrum. IIRC, it was November or December of that year (91 or 92?)

I didn't think it was a bad show, it just didn't compare much to say, the River Tour in 1981. What I remember most was the Glory days closer, with the band all skipping around a big circle on stage. It was, like, totally faggy.

[soupcan]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I'm beginning to think I'm in the minority, but I like the blue/black a lot better than the all black.

I'm with Yancy on this.

Hate, hate, hate the all-black cap. I tolerate the black & blue but would prefer it only on the road and worn with the road greys.

="Edgy DC"]The blue insignia outlined by orange on a field of black is abominiable. The blue and black clash and the orange seems like a hasty solution to that problem, but ends up broadly overdrawing the logo and destroys the simplistic beauty of the thing. It's a domino effect of ugly.

Could not agree more with that statement.


The kids like the black. I guess that black connotes 'badass' on some level and kids like to think that their team, and by extension they, are badass. I guess.

I just hope its a fashion trend that fades out sooner rather than later.

Things I hate at Shea -

That goddamned Homerun Apple.

The 'Jose, Jose, Jose chant when initiated by the sound system. When the fans start it, its great, but I hate being manipulated.

[Guest Edgy DC]

soupcan wrote: I just hope its a fashion trend that fades out sooner rather than later.

I think it has, but the Mets haven't been cc'd.

soupcan wrote: The 'Jose, Jose, Jose chant when initiated by the sound system. When the fans start it, its great, but I hate being manipulated.

Well, yeah. I bet Reyes hates it at this point and a good chemical-bahavioral scientist can tie the PA track to his fading performance.

I don't know how anybody but a Grandpa Crankypants can hate the apple.

Edited September 5, 2007 by Guest

[Benjamin Grimm]

Edgy, I think you put soupcan's words in my mouth. (And they taste like cream of chicken!)

[Willets Point]

I think this is Freudian slip that shows the Edgy thinks Yancy is a Grandpa Crankypants.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Nah. Fix't.

[soupcan]

Edgy DC wrote: I don't know how anybody but a Grandpa Crankypants can hate the apple.

That's fine, I've been called worse.

="Yancy Street Gang"]Edgy, I think you put soupcan's words in my mouth. (And they taste like cream of chicken!)

You're welcome.

[Centerfield]

I've never had a problem with the black uniforms or hats, though it may well be time to put them aside. I doubt they'll be making the trip to Citifield.

I like Lazy Mary. Like KC, I can't hear the end of TMOTTBG without automatically going into the opening of the song.

The real abomination is the orange dot on the all blue caps. I've been waiting for years for them to eliminate it and go back to what it was. Last month I realized you can buy the all blue hats without the dot if you buy the faded ones. My son got his first all-blue hat. He will never wear the orange dot as long as I can help it. It looks ridiculous. Like a fucking beanie.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I dislike the pinstripes. If I were king, they'd wear the snow-whites at home, grays on the road, with an occasional all-blue alternative road jersey. Blue hats all the time, no orange dot.

Everybody clap yo' hands must die. Sweet Caroline belongs in Boston.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Now that's where I think peeps are being persnickety just for the sake of it. How is painting a dot (with the established secondary color worse than painting the whole damn cap (a trendy new third color) and reconceiving a classic logo of antiquity into a desperate distorion?

How?

To me, that's like saying, "I don't mind that they're demolishing the Empire State Building. The real problem is that they turned off the fountain in front of the Plaza four months a year."

It's a dot, and bringing it to the table trivializes the real issues. It always comes back to the damn dot, and so the Ban the Black movement gets no traction.

[Centerfield]

The orange dot modifies the original. The black provides an alternative. If you hate the black hats, you don't have to buy or wear them. If I hate the orange dot, I can't simply buy an all-blue hat (without the dot) because the Mets don't wear one anymore. In my view, they can make as many alternative uniforms as they want...just leave the original alone.

For that reason, although I've never liked the pinstripes, I can understand keeping them around.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Alternative garb is the greater threat. 99% right beats 100% wrong every day.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

CF - "The real abomination is the orange dot on the all blue caps."

I absolutely hate the orange dot on the blue hats. The only dumber addition to hats was the weird arches over the ears on the BP hats this spring.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think the dot was there for two or three years before I even noticed it.

I'm completely ambivalent about the orange dot.

[Willets Point]

The real crime is switching from woolen uniforms to acrylic fibers. That's a crying shame I tells ya.

[G-Fafif]

I've been pro-dot all these years, if one can define oneself in relation to the dot, but now that I think about it, it probably took its cue from the Dodger caps with the white button, which should have been an indication of Wilponian Dodger envy.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I think the dot was there for two or three years before I even noticed it. I'm completely ambivalent about the orange dot.

Exactly, it's turning the complaint box into a contest to see who can get most exercised about the most innocuous stuff that gets all complaints shitcanned.

Edited September 5, 2007 by Guest

[soupcan]

Got no problem with the dot - in fact I like it. I think it only adds to the classic. Dodgers, Cubs - they got dots. It doesn't look like a beanie. If you attached a propeller to it, then it would look like a beanie

Now if you really want to talk about the dumbing down of the classics then lets talk about the black drop shadows underneath the script Mets on the home unis and underneath 'New York' on the road grays. That's just utter disrespect. And it looks bad.