Pelfrey or Die

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Now that the cranepool is no longer about Mets history but about its present, let's discuss Mike Pelfrey.

I think he's looked like crap so far and could use some time with the Zeffs. Whaddayouthink?

[metirish]

Do you think he has good mechanics?,not sure how to explain this but they look weird at times.

[Gwreck]

I agree, but keep in mind that your alternatives are Jorge Sosa, Chan Ho Park, and Jason Vargas. Some ML-seasoning might be worthwhile, especially if Maine and Perez continue to pitch well.

[Guest iramets]

Just wanted to commend the subtle allusion to NH's state motto in the thread title.

Carry on.

[Willets Point]

I didn't think it was subtle but I like it all the same.

I don't get to watch every game and it seems that I've not seen Pelfrey pitching at all this season so I can't really add a comment there.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'd give him at least a few more starts to get comfortable.

[Guest ABG]

iramets wrote: Just wanted to commend the subtle allusion to NH's state motto in the thread title. Carry on.

I'm not sure I like the consequences if I support sending Pelfrey to AAA.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Not suggesting we're necessarily better if he goes away for awhile but could turn out he's better if he does.

To me he just looks awfully raw, very inconsistent. Absorbing some inconsistency is the price of developing a stud, it's just a question of how much punishment is enough.

[Guest Edgy DC]

He's hardly sinking the ship. I think (and hope) that what they choose to do will have as much to do with Pelfrey as with the team.

He's only allowed one kerbanger, and that's good, but the strikeouts aren't there, and that's surprising.

Finding your strikiout pitch --- yeah, I'd guess that's worth a trip to AAA. But I think two-three more starts are in order before concluding that it's missing.

[Guest iramets]

Willets Point wrote: I didn't think it was subtle

I read it three or four times, and said it aloud once, before I got it.

Of all the strategies designed not so much to win April games, but more like "take your nasty-tasting medicine now so you'll feel better in the long run," starting a young guy in the rotation (where this club is vulnerable) seems prudent, far more so than sticking Burgos in to face tough batters in key spots, or even sitting Wright down for Newhan for a few games.

[soupcan]

I hope we get a couple of nibbles soon.

This is painful.

[Guest iramets]

soupcan wrote: This is painful.

Did you zip up with reckless haste again?

[soupcan]

No perfesser, I read one of your posts.

ZING!

[Willets Point]

iramets wrote: ="Willets Point"]I didn't think it was subtle I read it three or four times, and said it aloud once, before I got it.

Well I'm 30 miles from the NH border so I guess I have an advantage on you as far as state motto familiarity goes.

[smg58]

It's only two starts. If you decided that he won the job in the spring, you owe him at least a few more starts before you change your mind on that.

As far as New Orleans goes, Jason Vargas has looked pretty good so far (3.42 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 19 K and 5 BB in 23.2 IP), and Sosa has looked very good (1.38 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 24 K and 4 BB in 26 IP). Park, on the other hand, has struggled (ERA over 6 due to 4 HR in 16 IP). I'd have to assume Sosa is next on the depth chart right now.

[MFS62]

Interesting about who would be brought up if Pelfrey isn't ready yet.

Traditionally, teams have looked at the budget when making these decisions. And Sosa is making over $1 million, Park about half of that and Vargas probably less than that.

Omar has shown that he doesn't do things the way other GMs do. But in this case, I'm predicting it would be Sosa brought up first. Its a nice problem to have, because if the others pitch well, they could become nice trade bait come the deadline.

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't see why budget would be an issue, except that maybe if a guy is called up and tanks, a more expensive guy is easier to return to AAA.

[MFS62]

I dunno. Just past observations over the years,nothing specific to point to. Seems that if a team is paying a guy a lot of money, they'd rather be spending it on a major leaguer. But your point about passing through waivers is well taken.

Later

[Guest ABG]

Right now, I choose death.

[Willets Point]

I'll take tea & cake.

[nymr83]

homeruns by John Mabry arent good. I'd still give him 1 or 2 more starts before i make a change.

[Centerfield]

At this point, I'm inclined to choose "Die".

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

If it were up to me I would likely give him one more start, but if the results were no better, then I would send him down for some hopeful retooling in New Orleans. Pelfrey would probably benefit from some time in New Orleans to get his act together and gain some confidence with a few (hopefully) successful outings. He seems to be lacking something right now. I don't know whether it is the lack of a reliable out pitch, a good second pitch to go with his fastball, adequate control, or maybe some confidence, but something definitely seems to be missing right now.

[metirish]

Omar when asked today about Pelfrey....

] “You have to keep your eyes on him and see where you are,” Minaya said. “Right now, he’s going to get another start. But I reserve the right to speak to my manager. I haven’t spoken to him yet about today’s outing.”

Sosa is 3 - 0 with a sparkling 1.38 earned run average for New Orleans while striking out 24 and allowing only one homer in 26 innings.

[Centerfield]

Good answer by Omar.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Speak to your pitching coach too.

And Sosa's AAA manager and pitching coach.

And the Crane Pool.

And your teddy bear.

[Guest Kid Carsey]

C: >>>Good answer by Omar<<<

He's more artuculite in print I'm sure for some people.

[metirish]

="Kid Carsey"]C: >>>Good answer by Omar<<< He's more artuculite in print I'm sure for some people.

That's my fault,I left out "know what I mean"..

[Guest Kid Carsey]

I was making a dumb joke by misspelling ... I'm dumber than Omar.

[metirish]

I knew that KC....