Glavine

[MFS62]

Welcome, iramets.
Good first post. We hope to see many, many more like that from you.

Later

[Willets Point]

I was going to put in the first post logo but Edgy doesn't seem to be hosting it anymore.

[nymr83]

]1)Maine, who proved he deserves a full shot 2) Bannister, who pitched well until he pulled a hamstring 3) Perez, who also deserves a full shot

lets not go overboard here. Yes, Maine pitched well and deserves a rotation spot. But Bannister, while getting goodresults in a limited sample size, was letting runners on left and right. i wouldn't start him next year unless he has his walks down in the spring. Perez did NOTHING until the playoffs. while i do like the guy alot, i dont want to write him into the rotation just yet after the regular season he had this year.

if we entered the year with Maine, Bannister, Perez, even as 3-4-5, i'd say we're not in very good shape.

](Wright sucking a big wet one in the post-season didn't help, either, I admit

as opposed to Reyes, LoDuca, and everyone else not named Carlos? why the emphasis on Wright who wasn't even the worst of the bunch

[MFS62]

Nymr83 wrote: lets not go overboard here. Yes, Maine pitched well and deserves a rotation spot. But Bannister, while getting goodresults in a limited sample size, was letting runners on left and right. i wouldn't start him next year unless he has his walks down in the spring.

His lack of control was a head scratcher. He had excellent BB/IP ratios every year in the minors. It could have been rookie jitters or the umps were squeezing a rookie.
Either way, I liked the way he demonstrated toughness when he got out of those jams, and think he will show good-excellent control the next time around.

Later

[nymr83]

if he shows it in the spring, or if nobody else steps up, then fine. but i don't think he should automatically have a rotation spot, and neither should Perez. Maine should.

[metirish]

] NEW YORK -- Mets pitcher Tom Glavine filed provisionally for free agency Thursday, still uncertain whether he wants to stay in New York or try to go back to the Atlanta Braves. Glavine has until Friday to exercise a $7.5 million player option, and the Mets have until Nov. 20 to exercise a $14 million team option. The options carry a $3 million buyout and both are likely to be declined. His agent, Gregg Clifton, has had preliminary discussions with the Mets about a new deal. San Diego left-hander David Wells, another Clifton client, also filed Thursday. A total of 171 players have filed since the World Series, and eight more potentially are eligible to file by Saturday's deadline. Cubs right-hander Wade Miller, who had filed Oct. 30, agreed Thursday to a one-year contract to remain in Chicago. Free agents can start discussing money with all teams beginning Sunday, the day before the annual general managers' meetings open in Naples, Fla. Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press

[DocTee]

Glavine files, says he's only got one more season in him (according to Marty Noble). If that's true, sweetening the pot with a second year probably won't make much of a difference-- me thinks he heads back to Atlanta.

[smg58]

So the initial rumor was wrong? That's so unusual.

I still think biting the bullet for this year and picking up the option will be cheaper in the long run. Pelfrey could spend a full year in AAA and fill that spot very cheaply next year. Otherwise we'd have to acquire two top starters, which could be difficult unless we overspend. We still have control of Glavine; I see no reason to make the offseason more stressful than it needs to be.

[Frayed Knot]

The filing had to be done simply to keep the paperwork in place and his options open. It doesn't really change anything.

There's only been that one story about him getting two years (from Adam Rubin in the NYDN) and that got backed off of pretty quickly. Most reports have them getting together on a 1-year deal at a point somewhere between the two option figures (around $12mil) if he decides to stay -- and that $12 is essentially $9 plus the money he "rebated" the team from last season.

Of course the one thing we haven't heard so far is whether his supposed only other acceptable destination even wants him. With a strict budget and a fairly expensive stable of starters already: Smoltz, Hampton, Hudson, Thomson; it's questionable whether Atlanta can afford to pay him even if they do decide they want him.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I'm kind of indifferent to Glavine's staying or leaving at this point, and I think if he wants to go, the Mets will have no trouble spending whatever it would take to have retained him on talent that might not be directly comparable but also won't be 41 years old.

I was a little more emotional over their parting with Leiter a few years back but turns out that was the precise moment to have done that. The thing with signing Glavine again is that it guarantees that if he craps out, he'll crap out wearing our clothes.

[Willets Point]

Au revoir, Tom.

[Centerfield]

Willets Point wrote: Au revoir, Tom.

Is this just wishful thinking?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yes. He's not even eligible to sign with the Braves yet.

[Frayed Knot]

]I was a little more emotional over their parting with Leiter a few years back but turns out that was the precise moment to have done that. The thing with signing Glavine again is that it guarantees that if he craps out, he'll crap out wearing our clothes.

Leiter had a longer tenure and more "big moments" as a Met than Glavine, but was also more clearly outta gas by the time he was sent packing compared to how Tommy is now - so I don't have a lot of fear with one more season.

[metirish]

Just heard on the FAN,Glavine officially turned down his $7.5 million option today.....

[smg58]

Hardly a shock. The ball, predictably, is in Minaya's court.

[metirish]

Tick-tock Tommy..the longer this goes on the more I think he'll go back to the Braves,read an article in an Atlanta paper where the guy was saying it's the right time for him to come back,the readers response was typicaly split.

[Guest cleonjones11]

Tom Glavine...kiss my Met ass goodbye!!!!

[Guest Edgy DC]

You don't have a Met ass. He does.

[metirish]

If this comes down to money,and no reason to think that it won't then it's back to the Mets,Smoltz will make $8 million next season,will the Braves pay Glavine more,and it's not like Glavine and the GM are best friends,Mets ill pay more and probably offer two years.....

[Guest heep]

I believe the no-trade clause will factor heavily into Tom's decision, and in our favor.

Tom wants a no-trade clause, and if he does not get one from Atlanta, then I think he will come back for another year.

Notwithstanding Tom'a return, I would pursue Zito, but offer something solid, not 15+ per year.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Glavine won't need much of one from New York. He'll be a ten-and-five guy at the end of this season. And a new contract (could be wrong here) should protect him for the first half of this season.

Part of me sees the Yankees swooping in to make a grab at him.

[Willets Point]

Edgy DC wrote: Part of me sees the Yankees swooping in to make a grab at him.

T'would be awesome to see him melting down on the mound for the Yankees.

[Centerfield]

Edgy DC wrote: Part of me sees the Yankees swooping in to make a grab at him.

Which part?

[HahnSolo]

braves.scout.com has "breaking news" on Glavine. But I'm not a member and can't access the story.

Anyone with access care to enlighten?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Last word I read is that the Braves have approached him and that Glavine had promised to give the Mets an answer before the winter meetings start and their attention has to focus drunken racist superscouts.

[metirish]

I don't have access but I went to another Braves message board and people with access are posting this....

] Bill Shanks is reporting Braves are about to sign Tom Glavine to contract in 7-8 million dollar range with option for 08

http://www.bravesbeat.com/boards/showthread.php?t=23136

[Willets Point]

It's like Christmas in November. I tingle with anticipation.

[Guest Edgy DC]

bravesgirl5 writes:

i signed up for scout.com five minutes ago just to see that article. and to tell you the truth i was disapointed! i thought he was going to provide a real answer! darnit!

Somewhere, P.T. Barnum smiles.

[metirish]

Don't get too excited Willets, the poeple on that board think Shanks if full of crap..