2006 World Series: Detroit vs. St. Louis

[Willets Point]

C'mon, you know you're gonna watch.

Verlander toes the mound for the Tigers and Reyes counters for the Cardinals in Game 1.

[metirish]

Yeah I'll watch,it's baseball at least.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

Rangers v. Leafs, Rutgers v. Pitt.

Screw the Cards.

[metirish]

Eric Byrnes is an asshole....

[Zvon]

Willets Point wrote: C'mon, you know you're gonna watch. Verlander toes the mound for the Tigers and Reyes counters for the Cardinals in Game 1.

yea--Ill watch.
Cuz after this series Ill be going thru baseball withdrawl.
No more baseball till 2007.

[Willets Point]

First matchup of rookie pitchers in a game #1 in World Series history. I thought that happened in 1997 with Jaret Wright and Levan Hernandez, but I guess that wasn't game #1.

[metirish]

This could be a very short series...

[Zvon]

Willets Point wrote: First matchup of rookie pitchers in a game #1 in World Series history. I thought that happened in 1997 with Jaret Wright and Levan Hernandez, but I guess that wasn't game #1.

..interesting.

Okay--I need to be more interested in this series.
Can anyone else say something to make this more interesting?

1-0 Tiggers score 1st, in the 1st of the 1st game.

[Zvon]

Waht did Belliard do?
Stick his finger in an electrical outlet or something?

mmm-thats interesting-his new doo.
He looks like the fourth stooge.

[Willets Point]

Ernie Harwell on the Tigers broadcast. Awesome.

[Willets Point]

The Tigers need Endy Chavez.

[Zvon]

1-1 as the Cards answer back.
Rolin smacks one.

Yea WP--Endy wouldnt caught that one.

[Zvon]

The Ugly Duncan drives in run #2 for St Lou.

And Pujols goes yard. Wow.
They coulda walked him.Yow.

4-1 Cards

[Guest OlerudOwned]

That Verlander kid is no Johnny Maine.

[Zvon]

OlerudOwned wrote: That Verlander kid is no Johnny Maine.

[Zvon]

Tim Mac on Leyland:
"You can disagree with pitching to Pujols but you cant disagree with his honesty."

HA!
Paaaaaleese Timmy. Spare me.
And make sense, will ya?

[Willets Point]

Apparently, it wasn't that the Mets offense that was failing but that the Cardinals pitching made a deal with the devil.

[Zvon]

Willets Point wrote: Apparently, it wasn't that the Mets offense that was failing but that the Cardinals pitching made a deal with the devil.

I hope they did.
Cause next season there WILL be hell to pay.


Lets see-.....!!!--7-1? 7th?
Cards?

Whats all this then?

[stevejrogers]

Natural and Ivan Rodriguez, words you'd never thought you'd hear ever!

BTW Timmy, Ivan's HOF-ness diminished with his "power"

[stevejrogers]

7-2 Cards

BLooper with the final two outs.

Well, he did strike out Aaron Boone in a key spot in 2003

[Willets Point]

Cardinals take the first game 7-2.

[Zvon]

SteveJRogers wrote: BTW Timmy, Ivan's HOF-ness diminished with his "power"

..and his steroidness.

Well, that was boring and sucked.

Cards tame the Tiggers in game one, 7-2.

[TransMonk]

I don't think Pudge's chance of making the HOF has diminished. He's one of the best defensive catchers ever and has had one of the most consistent offensive careers of anyone over the past 15+ years.

As for his power, whatever the allegations about him getting "smaller" over the past few years, he's only hit over 30 HRs once in his career and over 20 five times. I've certainly never considered his power to be one of his top three attributes.

[MFS62]

Monk, the HOF voters rarely go for defense - at any position.
I can think of, um, Ozzie, Mazeroski and...., uh, that' s it recently. Two of the best all-time defensive players at their position - Hodges and Hernandez - would have received more votes if defense were highly regarded. But didn't get enough to get voted in.

I agree with others above that it will be his bat that gets, or doesn't get, Pudge into the Hall. Not just his glove.

Back to the series.
I am so so happy that the Cardinals won. Maybe it will stop the reporters like the one in USA Today who predicted "Tigers in three" because the NL is "so bad".

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't think he meant to suggest "just his glove."

And Hernandez and Hodges are two of the best at the least important, most say, of defensive positions. Pudge is one of the best at the most important.

[Willets Point]

Just to comment on last night...

the National League team after a tightly-contested 7-game series
on one day rest
pitching an unreliable rookie out of desperation
against the well-rested Tigers and their rookie ace
in a road game
won in dominating fashion.

Can we put the AL is better than the NL myth to bed now?


The Tiggers have an early lead on a Craig Monroe homer tonight.

[soupcan]

I tuned in for a second and heard them talking about possibly illegal substances on Kenny Rogers hand that had since been removed.

Hmmm, maybe the Gambler's post season renaissance ain't so mysterious after all.

Paging Mr. Scott, Mr. Mike Scott.

[Elster88]

Seeing the bat bend on contact in super slo-mo is pretty fucking cool.

[Guest Iubitul]

They had a shot of a close up of his hand that they claimed showed a discoloration - looked more like a shadow to me.

[Frayed Knot]

]Can we put the AL is better than the NL myth to bed now?

No, because the AL beat the NL during interleague this year at rates roughly equivelent to Johnson beating Goldwater. The outcome of this series - and especially one game from the series - shouldn't be used to either erase what's gone on all season.

That said, there are various over-generalizations that are going on with various fan and media types on this subject.
One is this assumption that this lop-sidedness has been true for years. It hasn't; prior to this season, it was the NL which held a slight edge over the first 9 years of IL play.
Another is treating the WS (or, even worse, All-Star games) as a true measure of league strength. Not only does this takes the idea a 'small sample' to an extreme but it's also just one team vs another. In-season IL play is so much better because it's ~240 games/year and pits the good, bad & ugly from each league against each other.