NLCS Rotation

[Guest Rotblatt]

So anyone else think that Maine should pitch as scheduled tomorrow, with Glavine going on Friday?

My thought is that since Glavine sucks on short rest, using Maine tomorrow would allow us to use him on short rest in game 5 instead of Glavine.

Glavine could pitch in Game 6.

So our rotations would line up:

10/12 Maine v. Weaver
10/13 Glavine v. Suppan
10/14 Trachsel v. Carpenter
10/15 Perez v. A. Reyes
10/16 Maine v. Weaver (short rest for both)
10/18 Glavine v. Suppan
10/19 Trachsel v. Carpenter

I've no idea if Maine's any good on short rest, but you figure, the kid's pretty young, right? He should be able to swing it.

The good thing about Game 5 being the one with short rest pitchers is that we'll have a day off afterwards to rest our bullpen. We'll still need Glavine and at least one other starter to get us deep into a game, though . . .

[Willets Point]

Think we can get enough rainouts for Hernandez to be healthy? Pedro?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

From Marty Noble on Mets.com:

="Marty Noble"]NEW YORK -- The fallout from the rainout of the National League Championship Series opener on Wednesday night is just one more unknown added to an event that has been shrouded in uncertainty since the moment the Mets secured a place in it. But for the most part, the postponement appears to benefit the Cardinals and severely handicap the Mets. Because the first game was postponed, the Cardinals now have the option of reassigning their primary starting pitcher, Chris Carpenter, to Games 2 and 6, rather than Games 3 and 7. The Mets have an unwanted option now. Tom Glavine starts Game 1, now on Thursday. But his subsequent start would be in either Game 5 on short rest or in Game 6 with extra rest. At this point, with Game 1 still unplayed and Glavine's first start unmade, neither option is preferred. Moreover, the Mets have no other starter on their 25-player roster who would be available to start Game 5. Glavine said shortly after the postponement that he could start Game 5 on three rather four days' rest. He had made a similar offer to start Game 1 of the NLDS on short rest after Orlando Hernandez was scratched. But Glavine is 40 years old and full rest seemingly would benefit him as much as it would any starter in this series. The Mets' decision-makers didn't address the situation after the postponement. They did contact Major League Baseball to determine whether rosters submitted Wednesday morning could be revised because the series hadn't begun. The official response was negative, unless the changes were because of extreme circumstances.

Sheesh! With rain in the forecast, you'd think they would have taken that into account when they finalized their roster on Wednesday morning, like I suggested on Tuesday. Doesn't Omar Minaya read this forum?

[seawolf17]

Yes, I do.

[soupcan]

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[Elster88]

So basically we're f'ed? Perez and Williams both get a start? Or is Williams even on the roster?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Earlier in this thread I was advocating putting Williams on the roster in case of a Wednesday rainout.

But they didn't do that.

The only choices the Mets have for Game 5 are Glavine on three days rest or Darren Oliver. Or Roberto Hernandez. Or some other reliever.

If there is a Game 5, I hope the Mets take the field with a 3-1 lead. Otherwise there could be serious trouble.

[Valadius]

Maybe Heilman?

[metirish]

Glavine on three days rest ......not good.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I doubt it. He's become a key part of their bullpen, and to start him in Game 5 would leave him unavailable for games 3, 4, 6, and 7. And I doubt they'd want to do that.

It would probably be Darren Oliver. I threw out Roberto Hernandez's name because he seems to be the other infrequently used guy in the pen.

[Guest Hillbilly]

Lots and lots of reasons to hope game 5 is not required.

[Guest Ned Fengus]

metirish wrote: Glavine on three days rest ......not good.

Seriously. You know they have those toasters that toast bread in half the time. Microwaves cook things in an accelerated manner. Why can't some genius come up with something to give a pitcher full rest in half the time? Any inventors out there?

[Guest ABG]

Thing is, I'll take our guy (Glavine) on 3 days rest vs. their guy (Suppan) on 3 days rest. Or do they have an extra starter?

[seawolf17]

Considering they left Marquis off the roster, I'm thinking they'd have to go short rest also.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Game 5 looks like it could be a big sloppy mess.

If it turns out our way, it might be one of the most entertaining games of the postseason.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

This is from the Times:

BEN SHPIGEL wrote: �Wasn�t your typical day getting ready for a ballgame,� said Tom Glavine, who will pitch Game 1 tonight. In Glavine�s case, he had taped his ankles, stretched and was beginning to prepare for his start yesterday when he learned the game was canceled. Then he played catch and readied for the probability that he will have to come back to pitch Game 5, if necessary, on short rest. Glavine allowed six runs in five and one-third innings in his only start this season on three days� rest, June 7 in Los Angeles. He has a 3.53 earned run average in 25 career starts with three or fewer days of rest. The Mets cannot add another pitcher to start in Glavine�s place in Game 5 because the deadline for submitting their roster for this series was 10 a.m. yesterday. �It�s the kind of thing that you worry about this game and worry about Game 5 if and when we get to that situation,� Glavine said. �The most important game for me is tomorrow.�

The Mets need to try to win this thing without requiring Glavine to go much more than 5 or 6 innings so he's as fresh as possible for Monday.

[Willets Point]

I'm sure Glavine can see to it that he'll only go 5 or 6 innings (or less), he's a pro that way.

[Elster88]

I think Glavine has pitched on short rest twice in the postseason, and both times he has taken ridiculous beatings.

If I have my stats right, without those two short-rest massacres his name would be in the discussion of all-time greatest postseason pitchers.

[HahnSolo]

My personal feeling is that it's better to know you're going on 3 days' rest before the first start, so that you can prepare accordingly. It's much worse to find out you're going on 3 days rest in between starts, messing with preparations.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ouch. That's some ruthless pricking you're doing right there, Els.

[metirish]

The last time Glavine went on three days rest in the postseason was whEn the Giants as Elster pointed out gave him a ridiculous beating, to the tune of a 15.00 ERA.

[metirish]

Carpenter to start game two.

[nymr83]

BUMP.

whats the plan for tomorow night?

i heard something earlier about Oliver Perez on 3 days rest. I'd rather see Darren Oliver.

[Guest cleonjones11]

I say Trachsel

[Willets Point]

Traschel/Oliver. Yes, the dual starter.

[stevejrogers]

WAPP
How about Aaron Heilman. Not considered, but still be worth a gamble

[Valadius]

Eh, Heilman pitched tonight. He's out.

[Frayed Knot]

Willie hinted strongly towards Oliver (Perez, not Darren) followed by ... well everyone!

[Guest cleonjones11]

Trachsel was throwing in the bullpen in 8th....hmmmm... Willie can be coy now..

[DocTee]

]Aaron Heilman. Not considered, but still be worth a gamble

No...but I empathize. The Oliver duo can combine for seven--let perez start and have a quick hook ready with Darren in reserve (TRAX, too)...