The fate of Steve Trachsel

[soupcan]

]In the postseason rotation, consider bringing him back next year

Do we really have a choice at this point?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I believe I voted this way originally;

Not on the postseason roster, don't bring him back next year.

Now, I think the only option other than the one soupcan mentioned is:

In the postseason rotation, don't bring him back next year.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

After NLCS Game 3, I've had it with Steve Trachsel.

If the series goes to a Game 7, I'd let Darren Oliver start.

[Guest Rotblatt]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: After NLCS Game 3, I've had it with Steve Trachsel. If the series goes to a Game 7, I'd let Darren Oliver start.

Hell yes.

[Guest cooby]

I think something was up with him. He looked like his mind was a million miles away.

[Willets Point]

cooby wrote: I think something was up with him. He looked like his mind was a million miles away.

Because Sarah Traschel is sleeping with Pujols? You'd think he'd at least put a pitch behind Prince Albert's ear if that's the case.

[Guest cooby]

If he tried that, it probably would've hit Pujols on the foot

[Guest cleonjones11]

cooby wrote: I think something was up with him. He looked like his mind was a million miles away.

He was having animated conversations with himself behind the mound after every negative event. Hit bit his glove and either broke a tooth or cut his lip if anyone caught that when being taken out..

[Guest cooby]

Yeah, that's just what I mean, he seemed to be under some really bad emotional stress. I think he was fighting back tears there at the end, and that's kinda sad to see.


By the way, sorry about your kitty.

[MFS62]

Is it related to the "personal matters" that he left the team to attend to at season's end?
I never saw those matters defined.
Is it marriage related?

No wonder they guy's a wreck.

Later

[Guest OlerudOwned]

cooby wrote: I think something was up with him. He looked like his mind was a million miles away.

He looked like he couldn't hit the strike zone, like usual, and it compunded because it was the NLCS.

[Guest holychicken]

I am sure there are numerous fans right now that want "sleep him with the fishes" added to this poll.

[Valadius]

It's probably marriage-related.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

We should put a picture of Cruella D'Evil under Sarah Trachsel's name in Wifey Watch.

[Guest *62]

Trachsel should never pitch for the Mets, in New York, again.

There's no way in hell you can have your starting pitcher booed AT HOME in a World Series Game Seven; it's just fkng bad karma, Man.

He should be good and fresh for mop up duty if Perez takes a dump.

Trax's Mets days are done, IMO.

[Guest *62]

OlerudOwned wrote: ="cooby"]I think something was up with him. He looked like his mind was a million miles away. He looked like he couldn't hit the strike zone, like usual, and it compunded because it was the NLCS.

Ten of twelve hitters reached base against him and he was lucky to pick Eckstien off.

Stick a fork in him.

I gave him a lot of credit over his Mets career for the things he does right but he sh!t the bed in the first two important, or "big", games of his entire career.

C ya !!

[Guest Edgy DC]

*62 wrote: Trachsel should never pitch for the Mets, in New York, again. There's no way in hell you can have your starting pitcher booed AT HOME in a World Series Game Seven; it's just fkng bad karma, Man. He should be good and fresh for mop up duty if Perez takes a dump. Trax's Mets days are done, IMO.

God help us if the boobirds get to decide anything.

[soupcan]

="Yancy Street Gang"]We should put a picture of Cruella D'Evil under Sarah Trachsel's name in Wifey Watch.

Totally agree.


Sarah Trachsel

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Jeff Brantley trashes Steve Trachsel in this morning's Daily News:

] Trach takes another beating BY ADAM RUBIN DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER ST. LOUIS - Before Steve Trachsel tried to return to a mound last night to test his bruised right thigh, the Game 3 starter and loser defended himself from allegations his awful performance - and not an injury - prompted him to leave his first career NLCS start. "I don't think that's fair, considering I've been waiting 13 years for this opportunity, and I've never done that ever, ever, ever," Trachsel said. Trachsel left Saturday's game against the Cardinals in the second inning without recording an out, after getting struck on the right thigh by a Preston Wilson comebacker, then walking Albert Pujols. He raised eyebrows even in his own clubhouse for motioning to Willie Randolph and trainer Ray Ramirez to pull him. He was charged with five runs, after which Darren Oliver hurled six scoreless innings. Trachsel was charged with all five runs in St. Louis' 5-0 victory. Trachsel said the thigh stiffened to the point he couldn't pitch, but critics - including ESPN's Jeff Brantley, a major-league pitcher for 14 seasons - labeled him soft. Trachsel leaving the game couldn't have come at a worse time for the overtaxed bullpen, though Oliver's relief performance bailed them out. Brantley, a "Baseball Tonight" analyst, continued to tear into Trachsel yesterday, telling the Daily News: "I know what it's like to get hit with a line drive. I know what it's like to pitch with your shoulder torn up. I know what it's like to be out there in a lot of different circumstances. And I played with guys who, when the first thing is not perfect with them, they don't want to take the ball. That's what I saw in that situation. I believe I'm totally correct. I don't think I'm the only one who feels that way. Otherwise there wouldn't be talk of Darren Oliver starting Game 7. I don't think the team has confidence in Trachsel after that outing. I don't believe that Willie Randolph does, whether he says (so) or not. That was a place in time where a ballclub really needed a guy to step up and perform and he did not do that." Trachsel yesterday expressed confidence he could contribute again in the NLCS, yet the Mets appear prepared to turn to Oliver over him for the Game 7 start if the series goes the distance, though they've made no formal announcement. Trachsel, a pending free agent, clearly is in his final days as a Met, no matter how he and Randolph publicly define their relationship. He lasted only 3-1/3 innings in the division series against the Dodgers before Randolph pulled him. "I was pretty miffed with the fact he came out of the game," Brantley said about the latest outing. "I don't believe that ball hit back up the middle was a significant enough blow to him for him to take himself out of the game. With the way the bullpen had been stretched out the night before and the fact the New York Mets club has already lost two starters that can't pitch, it looked very questionable to me as to whether he really wanted to be out there in that ballgame." As for any swelling, Trachsel said: "It's gone down, definitely. I haven't done any running or anything like that. I was planning to do it today." Tom Glavine starts tonight's Game 5 against Jeff Weaver, with both pitchers now on standard rest because of last night's rainout. Tomorrow at Shea, John Maine will oppose Chris Carpenter in Game 6. Randolph remained noncommittal on Game 7, noting the Mets would do everything to wrap up the series before then. But provided Oliver isn't pressed into duty before then, and if the teams split the next two games, the reliever should make his first start as a Met, team sources quietly acknowledged. "I'm just trying to be available for whatever we need at this point," Trachsel said. "The doctors don't think it should be an issue, and I don't really believe it will be." Oliver threw 72 pitches Saturday, raising the question about whether he'd be able to bounce back on Thursday. Randolph expressed no concerns. "He said he felt good (Sunday), as a matter of fact," Randolph said. "I always check with the guys the day after. He was maybe a little sore like most guys, but he said he felt fine."

[metirish]

I think Brantley went over the top on this, how is he to know how hurt or stiff Trax felt after taking the line drive, having said that Trax is getting hammered in just about every paper today.

[Guest Edgy DC]

]I believe I'm totally correct.

Wow.

[Guest cooby]

You know, if the poor guy just wanted to be taken out because he knew that by staying in, he'd just make things worse, this really isn't fair.

They should let him alone. And waiting three days to trash him certainly doesn't help either. Maybe by now he was starting to calm down.

[MFS62]

I haven't seen any article about why he left the team the last week of the season. All I've read is "family matters".
Speculation has ranged from an illness of a family member to his wife is about to file for divorce. But it was important enough to have him miss his last season start/ tune-up. And there have been a lot of articles about how he has to be in a set routine to pitch well. (Well, as well as he pitches)
Whatever, it has taken his concentration away from the game. I'm sure the details will be known soon.

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

MFS62 wrote: Whatever, it has taken his concentration away from the game.

I don't think we know that.

[Frayed Knot]

Not all that surprising. Brantley seems to have grabbed (been assigned?) the macho guy role on 'BB2N' - right down to his moniker on that show of 'Cowboy' (one I've never heard anywhere else).

I was listening to him talk a while back about relievers/closers and he was making the usual point about 9th innings being "different" than others yyybbb. A debatable point certainly, but nothing too unusual about hearing it from a pundit or ex-player. Until, that is, he launches into how that difference affected him in his reliever days claiming that he was the type who needed that kind of pressure to the point where, while he'd sometimes give up runs in non-save-type situations, he NEVER coughed it up when the game was on the line in the 9th because he was able to set his mind to the task.

Call me cynical but I'm betting that claim wouldn't stand up to even semi-close scrutiny.

[metirish]

Maybe I have missd it but I've read or seen anyone on the team come out and defend Trax.

[MFS62]

Edgy DC wrote: ="MFS62"]Whatever, it has taken his concentration away from the game. I don't think we know that.

Five walks in one inning plus?
I'd think that was a pretty good indication that something was bothering him. That's not the Steve we've come to know. Maybe I should have put "IMO" in there somewhere.

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

Wel, sheesh, when did this article come out? Willie deflected the story and Trachs is a man and that's as much as you can hope for. The Mets have better things to do than get in team-wide battles with Jeff Freakin' Brantley.

From an earlier Rubin piece:

]Like her husband, Trachsel's wife, Sarah, had no interest in discussing her marriage, telling the Daily News by phone from Malibu, Calif.: "That's none of your business." She said she was "absolutely not" filing for divorce, adding: "Don't call here again."

[metsmarathon]

i'm disappointed that a former player would come out on the side of "if a guy does poorly, its because he didn't really care enough to do well"

sometimes you don't have it. sometimes you have a shitty day, and can't get a single ball to go where you want it to. that doesn't mean you're not busting your ass to get the ball to go where you want it to, or that you're not trying your damnedest to play and perform.

he sounds just like the rest of the armchair idiots who think that the results of an athletic performance are tied directly to the desire of an athlete to perform in that instance, with no other influencing factors.

trachsel sucked. no doubt. for that reason there should be questions about wether or not you want him to pitch game 7 if needed. i don't think we need to start inferring his level of desire or manhood based on this.

and SECONDLY... lets say trachsel went out there and knew he had nothing. couldn't get the ball to where he wanted it. couldn't get a damned guy out. and he knew it wouldn't get better, cos he just couldn't get a feel for the ball. try as he might. how long should he stayed out there waiting for the manager and pitching coach to see what he already knew? hmm? wouldn't we be killing him MORE if he stayed out there for the rest of that inning, game up four MORE runs, and removed any doubt about wether or not our offense could get us back into the game? there's no benefit to the team by him continuing to toe the rubber when he knows he's not right, and can't get the job done.

i want my athletes to tell me when they honestly can't get it done. that way those who can will have the chance to.

but jeff freakin' brantley knows steve trachsel's body better than he does, and jeff freakin' brantley knows for damned sure that steve trachsel was just being a wussy little girl, and that his thigh didnt really hurt and wasn't really bruised, and couldn't possibly have affected his delivery or his mechanics.

sure thing, jeff.

[metirish]

Didn't Bartolo Colon come out in the first inning of a playoff series last season?,did Brantley hammer him as soft too?