All I ask for the New-Shea parking lot is this ONE THING...

[stevejrogers]

Right behind where 2nd base was, a HUGE monument...well okay, scaled down, of a stage set, drummer and three gutiarists, with two mikes and a keyboard. Yup. Ringo, George, Paul and John. The Beatles!

And, I want this monument to have a built in speaker that blares nothing but what the Beatles set lists were (and mixed in with other Beatle tunes from that era and/or their live material) in an endless loop.

THAT would be...well...fab!

[Willets Point]

The Beatles set-list for that show was pretty short:

Twist And Shout
She's A Woman
I Feel Fine
Dizzy Miss Lizzy
Ticket To Ride
Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby
Can't Buy Me Love
Baby's In Black
I Wanna BeYour Man
A Hard Day's Night
Help!
I'm Down

[Guest KC]

I wonder how many people could actually hear the music. Not many is my guess,
although people who were there probably have different memories.

[Willets Point]

The only amplification they had was Shea's regular PA system which surely was not as powerful then as it is now. Then there were the 50,000 screaming girls. I don't think actually hearing the music was part of the experience for many

[stevejrogers]

Yup. The Beatles were a World Class live band, but as trail blazers in stadium rock, they came up WAYYYYYYY too short.

Put it this way, the 66 McCartney could never even attempt to do what the 06 McCartney does with every section of the stadium singing the Na na na na na na! Na na na! Hey Judes at the end of Hey Jude.

Famous story of course, though not sure if it was for Shea or another venue, is that Ringo would tell the other three that a song sounded really good that night, and the others would say that they never played the song Ringo was talking about! Thats how bad the Beatles sound was doing those first stadium tours

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

If they're going to honor Shea in the new parking lot, they should honor the Mets, not the Beatles.

Let us know where the pitcher's mound was, so we can stand there and pretend to be Tom Seaver. Or Dwight Gooden. Or Victor Zambrano.

Put a dotted line along the path of the ball the Mookie dribbled through Buckner's legs.

It's not about the Beatles. It's about the Mets.

[Guest Edgy DC]

And it's not about the pope. The Mets are bigger than Jesus.

[stevejrogers]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: If they're going to honor Shea in the new parking lot, they should honor the Mets, not the Beatles. Let us know where the pitcher's mound was, so we can stand there and pretend to be Tom Seaver. Or Dwight Gooden. Or Victor Zambrano. Put a dotted line along the path of the ball the Mookie dribbled through Buckner's legs. It's not about the Beatles. It's about the Mets.

Oh I agree as well, and a marker out by Left Field where Cleon stood to grab the final out of 1969. But that was such a huge happening that it must be commemorated, more so than the Met related stuff.

And I say "All I ask" is because I'm assuming the Mets will do the right thing with the Mookie thing, the mound, ect

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Edgy DC wrote: And it's not about the pope. The Mets are bigger than Jesus.

I agree with that, too.

[Gwreck]

Willets Point wrote: The only amplification they had was Shea's regular PA system which surely was not as powerful then as it is now. Then there were the 50,000 screaming girls. I don't think actually hearing the music was part of the experience for many

I thought the baselines were lined with speakers as well (??).

[seawolf17]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: ="Edgy DC"]And it's not about the pope. The Mets are bigger than Jesus. I agree with that, too.

Jesus Alou? Ivan DeJesus? Definitely. I don't even think there's a discussion there.

[Guest cooby]

SteveJRogers wrote: ="Yancy Street Gang"]If they're going to honor Shea in the new parking lot, they should honor the Mets, not the Beatles. Let us know where the pitcher's mound was, so we can stand there and pretend to be Tom Seaver. Or Dwight Gooden. Or Victor Zambrano. Put a dotted line along the path of the ball the Mookie dribbled through Buckner's legs. It's not about the Beatles. It's about the Mets. Oh I agree as well, and a marker out by Left Field where Cleon stood to grab the final out of 1969. But that was such a huge happening that it must be commemorated, more so than the Met related stuff. And I say "All I ask" is because I'm assuming the Mets will do the right thing with the Mookie thing, the mound, ect

Please try to explain this line

[Willets Point]

seawolf17 wrote: ="Yancy Street Gang"] ="Edgy DC"]And it's not about the pope. The Mets are bigger than Jesus. I agree with that, too. Jesus Alou? Ivan DeJesus? Definitely. I don't even think there's a discussion there.

I think he was refering to Jesus Jones.

[stevejrogers]

cooby wrote: Please try to explain this line

First stadium rock concert, ever. Ask people of a certain age who know nothing about baseball, and they'll probably know Shea as the place where the Beatles performed when they played in NYC

Part of pop-culture history that should be remembered, more so than the actual tennants of the place because of the historic cultural signfigance.

[Guest cooby]

A rock concert has more historical significance than a baseball team who has played in the same stadium for 40+ years and has won two World Series there.


This is a joke right?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, the Mets continue, and the Beatles are done, so a shrine of sorts is appropriate. The new Mets continue as a living monument to the old Mets.

Yeah, I meant MC 900-Fooot Jesus. Duh.

[Guest cooby]

Surely I'm dreaming.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't really care about this.

Any statue, so long as it isn't Kennedy Center ugly, is fine.

[Guest Iubitul]

A statue? Oh please. The only thing I think they should do is to mark where the original infield is in the parking lot...

[seawolf17]

Edgy DC wrote: Well, the Mets continue, and the Beatles are done, so a shrine of sorts is appropriate. The new Mets continue as a living monument to the old Mets. Yeah, I meant MC 900-Fooot Jesus. Duh.

Loved that "If I Only Had A Brain" song.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I think they should build an actual-size statue of Shea on its original location.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Iubitul wrote: A statue? Oh please. The only thing I think they should do is to mark where the original infield is in the parking lot...

I don't care so much about any of this at all.

[Frayed Knot]

Not just painted lines where home plate and the bases are/were, but maybe also some of those police-like chalk outlines on the parking lot where various things happened.
- Jones catching the fly ball
- The Beatles stage w/outlines of J, P, G & R
- the spot where Jesse's glove landed (assuming it ever did)

[Willets Point]

Outlines? Hell I think we should get Ringo himself to be a fixture in the parking lot.

[HahnSolo]

Put an outline where the bases and basepaths were, draw a line where the outfield fence is, then let everyone imagine what it was like to be there, and fondly recall their most vivid memories, whatever they may be.

[seawolf17]

HahnSolo wrote: Put an outline where the bases and basepaths were, draw a line where the outfield fence is, then let everyone imagine what it was like to be there, and fondly recall their most vivid memories, whatever they may be.

They should plant super-fast-growing grass in the lot so we can re-enact the 1986 division championship celebration over and over and over.

[Guest ABG]

An utterly inane topic. Who's the author?

[Guest cooby]

SteveJRogers wrote: ="cooby"]Please try to explain this line First stadium rock concert, ever. Ask people of a certain age who know nothing about baseball, and they'll probably know Shea as the place where the Beatles performed when they played in NYC Part of pop-culture history that should be remembered, more so than the actual tennants of the place because of the historic cultural signfigance.

This is just so utterly preposterous, that 3 1/2 hours later, I still can't believe my eyes.


The hell with the mock infield folks, the Beatles are the only thing that ever happened there. Of any historical significance, that is.

[Guest cooby]

ABG wrote: An utterly inane topic. Who's the author?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Let me bring this discussion to its inevitable next step:

This isn't Steve's opinion. It's something he heard on IdiotRadio, and he shared it here so we could all see how nutty the people who call IdiotRadio are.