2007 25-Man Roster

[Guest Edgy DC]

I usually put these up early in the season, but 2006 has been too much fun.

It's astounding how the team looks to hemmorage veteran starting pitching at the end of the year.

Starting Pitchers
Bannister	Pelfrey	Maine	Martinez	Soler
Relief Pitchers
Bell	Feliciano	Heilman	Owens	Sanchez Tug McGraw Memorial Goofy Reliever Roster Slot
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Schmoll	Wagner	Castro	Lo Duca	Delgado Donn Clendenon Memorial Slugging Firstbaseman Roster Slot
Infielders
Franco	Gotay	A. Hernandez	Reyes	Wright
Outfielders
Beltran Tommie Agee Memorial Forceful, Fleet, and Fun Outfielder Roster Slot	Chavez	Diaz	Milledge	Nady

Free Agents
Starting Pitchers
Glavine Mutual Option for 20071	O. Hernandez	Lima	Trachsel	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers		Infielders		Outfielders
Bradford	Oliver	Valentin	Woodward	Floyd
Outfielders
Marrero
1$5.5M 2007 player option ($3M buyout). Increases by $1M each for 180, 190 & 200 IP in 2006. $12M 2007 club option ($3M buyout). (Increases by $2M with 180 IP in 2006. Performance bonuses may increase 2007 salary to $14M.

[metirish]

Bradford seems pissed, and is that really Wagner, he looks so different...

[Guest Edgy DC]

That's Wags.

According to Cot's baseball contracts, Chavez and Castro remain in the Mets' control next season, though it seems like they shouldn't.

I guess they've clocked the time in years, but not in games on the roster.

[Frayed Knot]

Don't think Zambrano's an automatic FA either.
His debut in June of 2001 gives him only 5+ years in as of the end of '06.

Of course they could very well cut him loose and make him one since his availability (not to mention his desireability) for next year is already in question.

[Guest martin]

with the X out of the picture, i wonder who will take floyd's place next year. it would be nice to have floyd another year, possibly to placehold for carlos gomez. but i guess that wont happen.

who will join milledge and beltran in the outfield in 2007?

[Benjamin Grimm]

I wouldn't necessarily rule out Floyd, if he's willing to sign a one-, or maybe two-year deal.

[MFS62]

I thought I had read that Valentin was signed to a two year deal.
(The security software on this office PC prevented me from being able to check out the link provided.)

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

I doubt that. (You may be thinking of Franco.) Valentin was on the retread pile. He wouldn't have had any leverage at all for a two-year deal.

[MFS62]

="Yancy Street Gang"]I doubt that. (You may be thinking of Franco.) Valentin was on the retread pile. He wouldn't have had any leverage at all for a two-year deal.

Yep, it was Franco.

As for Glavine, didn't they re-work his option clause? Is it now automatic for either him or the team? Or was that the old clause?

Later

[Elster88]

It's not automatic, but the team can pick it up without his consent.

[Frayed Knot]

The story on the Glavine option is a little hazy:
- he agreed to reduce this year's contract by $3mil
- then he agreed to an option for next year with an extra $3mil either in the contract or in the buyout if it's not picked up

The option itself has has both a club option at a particular level w/incentives and a player option at a different level. But the club option seemed very high (even considering the put-back $3mil) to the point where the team has to be tempted to NOT pick it up and, by the same token, the player option was quite low meaning Glvaine might reject it and hunt for a better deal elsewhere.

What's likely to happen (this is Adam Rubin's take) is that, given the relationship between Glavine & the Wilpons, they'll reach an agreement somewhere between the two extremes and scrap the details of the option all together.
This is all assuming that Glavine doesn't either:
- keep sliding into the toilet to the point where Mr. 'Full Autonomy' decides he doesn't want him back
- decide he wants to get back to Atlanta.

Seems like a lot of trouble to me; going through all that trouble of concocting the options just to pay him the $3mil after the season instead of during it and then wind up ignoring the parameters that you just worked out.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, I wonder what that's all about, and what it all really means.

I think, given the state of the two teams, Glavine would probably prefer to be in New York next year instead of Atlanta.

But if Glavine doesn't start pitching better, he may not have that choice to make.

[Frayed Knot]

- I guess delaying when they pay the $3mil is just to help the NYM cash flow a bit.
- And then the options were set-up so as to detail a way to get Glavine that $3mil back (either in the contract or via the buyout)
- Then, by putting the option levels towards the extremes, neither side gets locked into anything they don't want, and they have enough trust in each other enough to where they'll either work something out or agree to part company on good terms.

[Elster88]

Frayed Knot wrote: and they have enough trust in each other enough to where they'll either work something out or agree to part company on good terms.

Bad idea for both sides, IMHO.

Not to say anything about the Mets or Glavine specifically, or even baseball in general, but when it comes time to talk dollars in this world I think it's rare that what was said when everyone was nice and trusting actually happens.

[Guest Edgy DC]

August 31st

Acquired from Pittsburgh and Placed on Free Agent List	Acquired from Pittsburgh and Added to Roster	Passed on Depth Chart	Traded to Pittsburgh	Promoted
Relief Pitchers	Starting Pitchers		Outfielders
R. Hernandez	Perez	Soler	Nady	Eldridge

No, I don't know who Rashad Eldridge is (career, season) or the circumstances of his acquisition, but the Mets are short an outfielder next year and he's the highest ranking (at Norfolk) available one that either isn't already designated to return and isn't an automatic free agent.

Starting Pitchers
Bannister	Pelfrey	Maine	Martinez	Perez
Relief Pitchers
Bell	Feliciano	Heilman	Owens	Sanchez Tug McGraw Memorial Goofy Reliever Roster Slot
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Schmoll	Wagner	Castro	Lo Duca	Delgado Donn Clendenon Memorial Slugging Firstbaseman Roster Slot
Infielders
Franco	Gotay	A. Hernandez	Reyes	Wright
Outfielders
Beltran Tommie Agee Memorial Forceful, Fleet, and Fun Outfielder Roster Slot	Chavez	Diaz	Milledge	Eldridge

Free Agents
Starting Pitchers
Glavine Mutual Option for 20071	O. Hernandez	Lima	Trachsel	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers			Infielders
Bradford	R. Hernandez	Oliver	Valentin	Woodward
Outfielders
Floyd	Marrero
1$5.5M 2007 player option ($3M buyout). Increases by $1M each for 180, 190 & 200 IP in 2006. $12M 2007 club option ($3M buyout). (Increases by $2M with 180 IP in 2006. Performance bonuses may increase 2007 salary to $14M.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Mets Geek wrote: Eldridge was a fifth round pick by Cleveland in the 2000 draft, but left the Indians system at the end of 2001 and played five years in the Texas organization, rookie through AAA. He has posted a career .268 minor league batting average through 2005, and was signed on by the Mets on 6-6-6 after being released by Texas’ AAA team, Oklahoma. St. Lucie

[Gwreck]

Shouldn't Royce Ring be ahead of either Schmoll, Owens, or both?

[Guest Edgy DC]

August 8th

Promoted	Demoted
Relief Pitchers
Ring	Schmoll

At the time I laid them out, Bell and Owens were on the Mets. Knowing that Bradford was up for free agency, I looked for another righthander and Schmoll, with his big-league experience and ROOGyrific ways, seemed a natural. But yeah, Ring being up now and them being down puts him ahead of them at this point in time. Good point.

Bradford, by the way, needs to get his first career at-bat in before the year is out.

Do these guys look like brothers or what?

Starting Pitchers
Bannister	Pelfrey	Maine	Martinez	Perez
Relief Pitchers
Bell	Feliciano	Heilman	Owens	Ring
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Sanchez Tug McGraw Memorial Goofy Reliever Roster Slot	Wagner	Castro	Lo Duca	Delgado Donn Clendenon Memorial Slugging Firstbaseman Roster Slot
Infielders
Franco	Gotay	A. Hernandez	Reyes	Wright
Outfielders
Beltran Tommie Agee Memorial Forceful, Fleet, and Fun Outfielder Roster Slot	Chavez	Diaz	Milledge	Eldridge

Free Agents
Starting Pitchers
Glavine Mutual Option for 20071	O. Hernandez	Lima	Trachsel	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers			Infielders
Bradford	R. Hernandez	Oliver	Valentin	Woodward
Outfielders
Floyd	Marrero
1$5.5M 2007 player option ($3M buyout). Increases by $1M each for 180, 190 & 200 IP in 2006. $12M 2007 club option ($3M buyout). (Increases by $2M with 180 IP in 2006. Performance bonuses may increase 2007 salary to $14M.

[Gwreck]

Didn't realize that was why. My thinking was assuming Ring simply because of the need for lefties and the presumed lack of Darren Oliver next year.

[Vic Sage]

eldridge was signed on 6-6-6?
now THAT doesn't bode well...

[Guest Edgy DC]

OK, looking back at the other thread. On August 9th we announced that Duaner Sanchez was placed on the 60-Day DL. Im going to assume he's ready to break camp in the Spring --- in one condition or another --- and that this has no bearing on the 2007 roster.

Also that day, Ricky Ledee was added to the roster, and Anderson Garcia designated for assignment.

Added to Free Agent List	Claimed and Is Now an Ottawa Lynx
Outfielders	Relief Pitchers
Ledee	Garcia

On August 10th, Michael Tucker was called up to replace an ailing Cliff Floyd, and he promptly donned a shiny undershirt.

Added to Free Agent List

Outfielders

Tucker

On the 19th, Dave Williams was called up. I think the Mets continue to control him next year, so I won't add him to the free-agent list. Both he and Perez are out of options next year, so, the way he's pitching, I've got to think he's given a reasonable chance to make the team if they don't get anybody new (which they will).

Projected In	Projected Out
Starting Pitchers
Williams	Bannister

A big trade with Cleveland nets us an asset with next season written all over him. Nonetheless, he's another free agent.

Acquired from Cleveland and Added to Free Agent List	Designated for Assignment and Now an Indianapolis Indian
Relief Pitchers
Mota	J. Perez

A big deal went down on the 27th.

Acquired from Arizona	Designated for Assignment and Traded to Texas
Outfielders
Green	Diaz

Milledge also went down around the same time.

Most of the other moves have just been manevering, but a lot of these young pitchers are going to have to keep grinding just to stay in the mix, as the Mets could possibly pick up Tom Glavine's option, re-sign Steve Trachsel, and/or acquire a veteran pitcher or two. I doubt they'd do all three, but they could.

Purchased from Norfolk and Added to Outgoing-Free-Agent List

Catchers

Stinnett

Hey, Kelly Stinnett. I know what team you were playing for from your hat. Putting the insignia on your turtleneck, which is 12 inches away from your hat, was un-necessary.

Cranepoolers, next year's roster follows:

Starting Pitchers
Maine	Martinez	Pelfrey	Perez	Williams

[Guest Edgy DC]

Priorities for the off-season look like (1) secondbase, (2) starter, (3) outfielder. I'd put (3) ahead of two, get some righthanded-batting reserve badass that can platoon with Chavez if Milledge doesn't perform. But I imagine the Mets will make pitching a high priority.

The thing is that they're loaded with redundancy in the system at starting pitcher, while the outfield prospects continually peak at AA.

[Benjamin Grimm]

A big winter for Omar would mean signing Zito and Soriano.

[Guest mets1962]

if they get soriano,for the outfield not 2nd base will milledge be a goner, or will shawn green be tradebait?

[nymr83]

]Priorities for the off-season look like (1) secondbase, (2) starter, (3) outfielder. I'd put (3) ahead of two, get some righthanded-batting reserve badass that can platoon with Chavez if Milledge doesn't perform. But I imagine the Mets will make pitching a high priority.

i'd say Starter goes first. this team can hit well already, but i'm worried about the rotation going forward unless Pelfrey steps up big time next year.

[Guest Edgy DC]

They had enough pitching this year to overcome the supposedly foolish decision to deal Kris Benson, followed by the designated five-man rotation stating only 86 of the team's first 141 games.

A lot depends on whether they pick up Tom Glavine's option and/or re-sign Steve Trachsel.

Edgy odds:
Pick up Tom Glavine: 80% likely.
Re-Sign Steve Trachsel: 40% likely.
Both Pick up Tom Glavine and Re-Sign Steve Trachsel: 32% likely.

[Valadius]

Hold on, whoa whoa whoa. Despite the name, Cleveland's AAA team is not the Indianapolis Indians.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Didn't say they were.

Juan Perez ended up with Indianapolis as part of a series of moves in conjunction with the Mota acquisition from Cleveland, but he didn't go to Cleveland's organization as some sort of payment. As I understand, he was designated for assignment, exposed to waivers, claimed by Pittsburgh, and assigned to Indianapolis.

[Willets Point]

This is Mets related.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I think I've got his right. Obviously Bannister could beat out Soler next spring, but, right now, I thik age and experience makes Soler the first option, if not necessarily the best.

I put this thread down shortly after August 27th.

Destined to Open Season on Disabled List	Added to Projected Roster
Starting Pitchers
Martinez	Soler

Cranepoolers, next year's roster follows:

Starting Pitchers
Maine	Pelfrey	Perez	Soler	Williams