IGT - NY Mets @ Boston Redsox - 6/29/06 Keep The Faith!

[Zvon]

The Mets made some mistakes tonight, didnt take advantage of some opportunities, but Ill have to say the whole game hinged on Coco's catch.
IMO.

[Zvon]

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Edgy DC wrote: Stupid Cars from stupid Boston. Shoulda posted a Cure song.

Substitution mass confusion clouds inside your head.

[Frayed Knot]

The perfect bunt by Crisp, and his perfect catch the next inning, were the difference. Remember that Boston was without him for nearly two months as he got hurt the first week of the season.



The optimistic was to look at it this is if we were bound to split these 6 games at least we lost the "correct" 3.
Of course we still need to sweep this weekend in order to have the split ... but that's a minor detail.



In all, our "rep" - and in part that of the Nat'l League - took a bigger hit this week than our lead in the division did.

[Guest Edgy DC]

The really optimistic view is that the Mets paused amidst their assault on all of baseball to undermine the Yankee cause.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Zvon wrote: ="Edgy DC"]Stupid Cars from stupid Boston. I hear they are touring as the "New Cars" sans Rick O', and with Todd Rundgren takin his place. I love Todd but that sounds pretty stupid.

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[Guest old original jb]

Blech.

[Willets Point]

KC wrote: Is Boston Beer Works still open?

Yep. One by Fenway and one by the Garden.

[Willets Point]

Frayed Knot wrote: 8 times this year we've lost 2 straight - and so far we're 8-0 in that position. Which means .... .

... we were due.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Let us agree. No Bon Jovi in all caps during the Yankee series.

[Willets Point]

My thoughts:

- Never, never again put a Bon Jovi song in an IGT
- Willets + Glavine = suck. Next time I have a ticket to a Mets game and Glavine's pitching I'm giving it away.
- So I mentioned after last game that I'd rather sit behind a steel beam than the aisle full of ADD fans. So this game my seat was directly behind a steel beam. A kind Red Sox fan at the end of the row said she had an extra seat because her husband couldn't make it and let me sit there and thus I ended up with a GREAT seat behind home plate to the first base side.
- It was Connecticut Night at Fenway Park. Appropos to my CT childhood.
- Low point of the game: bratty teenage boy in front of me starts chanting "Mets Suck" and throwing peanuts at Mets fans. Just when I think his parents are going to intervene they start chanting and throwing peanuts too!!!!. This was the most classless family I've ever encountered.
- Based on the number of replica jerseys/t-shirts the fan favorites for the Red Sox are Crisp, Papelbon and Ortiz and for the Mets, Wright (by a wide margin), Martinez, and Seaver.
- I'm glad this series is over so now I can go back to actually feeling happy when Papi hits a sweet homerun.
- Despite the Mets loss and Glavine crapping the bed in the 6th, it was a privilege to see two great pitchers of our generation duel it out in a well-played game. Two great defensive plays by the Sox, baserunning blunders by the Mets, and Beltran throwing to 3rd instead of 2nd are the difference in this game.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I guess the good news is this is the hard-fought game they failed to give the Sox the first two games. They had the lead, but their bullpen, entering the game with the best ERA in the bigs, couldn't hold it. They went out there without Delgado, without Floyd, and without Nady.

But, as Art Howe would say, they battled.

I guess I'm concerned that they're waiting on the homers and not setting the tables that set those homers up. Seven walks in the series, and two walks the last two games.

[Elster88]

Has Beltran hit a cutoff man even once this year?

[Frayed Knot]

"Next time I have a ticket to a Mets game and Glavine's pitching I'm giving it away. "

Yeah, he was the problem.



"Has Beltran hit a cutoff man even once this year?"

No

[Willets Point]

="Frayed Knot"]"Next time I have a ticket to a Mets game and Glavine's pitching I'm giving it away. " Yeah, he was the problem.

I meant that whenever I see a Mets game that Glavine starts the Mets lose, so if I were not in attendance maybe they'd win. Kind of silly karma thing I don't believe in but funny to joke about.

On the other hand, your co-ace only being able to pitch 5 innings while allowing 5 hits, 3 walks, 2 runs, NO strikeouts and making a throwing error is a problem.

[seawolf17]

Willets Point wrote: - Low point of the game: bratty teenage boy in front of me starts chanting "Mets Suck" and throwing peanuts at Mets fans. Just when I think his parents are going to intervene they start chanting and throwing peanuts too!!!!. This was the most classless family I've ever encountered.

You know, ever since I've read this, I've been angry. It makes me want to call the Red Sox and file a complaint. Not only is it fucking obnoxious to do that, peanut allergies are deadly serious. If I was there, I would have not only called security, I would have been very, very tempted to press criminal charges against the little piece of crap and his family.

I'm literally still shaking. Infuriating. Makes me want to kick the parents in the fucking teeth.

[Willets Point]

I thought about reporting them, but the Mets fans who were being hit by peanuts were just ignoring them so I figured it was their complaint to make not mine. I thought it was more obnoxious than harmful and mostly was put off by how irresponsible the parents were.

[Elster88]

seawolf17 wrote: ="Willets Point"]- Low point of the game: bratty teenage boy in front of me starts chanting "Mets Suck" and throwing peanuts at Mets fans. Just when I think his parents are going to intervene they start chanting and throwing peanuts too!!!!. This was the most classless family I've ever encountered. You know, ever since I've read this, I've been angry. It makes me want to call the Red Sox and file a complaint. Not only is it fucking obnoxious to do that, peanut allergies are deadly serious. If I was there, I would have not only called security, I would have been very, very tempted to press criminal charges against the little piece of crap and his family. I'm literally still shaking. Infuriating. Makes me want to kick the parents in the fucking teeth.

*applause*

[soupcan]

I'm thinking that not only do you have a peanut allergy but that you've possibly experienced the worst of it?

[Willets Point]

I should add that other Red Sox fans in the area were visibly disturbed by this family and I don't think they should reflect poorly on Red Sox fans in general. I think no one said anything because these people just seemed so crazy you wouldn't know what they'd do if provoked.

[seawolf17]

soupcan wrote: I'm thinking that not only do you have a peanut allergy but that you've possibly experienced the worst of it?

Thankfully, I haven't died yet. But I've had reactions, yes. And it's not fun.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I misunderstood. I thought they were tossing Jack Russell terrirers.

[soupcan]

seawolf17 wrote: ="soupcan"]I'm thinking that not only do you have a peanut allergy but that you've possibly experienced the worst of it? Thankfully, I haven't died yet. But I've had reactions, yes. And it's not fun.

I guess I meant 'almost the worst'.

[soupcan]

Edgy DC wrote: I misunderstood. I thought they were tossing Jack Russell terrirers.

Yeah really. Isn't that like me naming my dog 'Razor Blade Sandwich'?

[MFS62]

seawolf17 wrote: ="soupcan"]I'm thinking that not only do you have a peanut allergy but that you've possibly experienced the worst of it? Thankfully, I haven't died yet. But I've had reactions, yes. And it's not fun.

Looks like you got the allergy under control by being very careful. Good news

]Makes me want to kick the parents in the fucking teeth.

Now you might want to concentrate on those anger management classes.



Later

[seawolf17]

="Edgy DC"]I misunderstood. I thought they were tossing Jack Russell terrirers.

[Guest KC]

Els: >>>Has Beltran hit a cutoff man even once this year?<<<

I haven't kept a tally of Beltrans throws, but didn't the announcers opine that
there was no cutoff man on his throw to third and that's why Manny advanced?
I think Reyes was the culprit.

Also, and I'm picking nits, I hate when people make it sound like the cutoff
man should be hit. He should be thrown through and it's his decision or the
guy yelling at him to "cut it" 's decision whether to catch the ball.

I'm having a MetMaven/ChiefUmpire flashback for some reason.

[Frayed Knot]

One of the announcers opined that Reyes wasn't lined up properly - although the throw air-mailed him anyway so it may not have mattered. Just the fact that the heave is low enough to be possibly cut is what would have kept Manny on 1st. Turned out not to matter because Manny never scored that inning but even he was an astute enough runner to know he could go as soon as that ball left Beltran's hand with a too-high angle on it.

Nice running all around by Papi btw. I wasn't so sure he was going to get to 2nd on his hit much less to 3rd on the fly. The one that got him home was more of a gimme.

[Elster88]

Maybe a better question would've been "Has Beltran thrown a ball all year that has been cutoff-able?" The answer is probably still no. I think I remember that comment about Reyes too, but even if Reyes had been in the right spot, that throw goes a mile over his head. Given his play this season, I bet he still throws that ball way over Reyes' head even if Reyes is lined up right (assuming he bothered looking at him in the first place).

Actually I was less bothered by that play yesterday because Beltran had a good shot at throwing out Ortiz. But I feel like all year he's been throwing balls that can't be cut. Not sure if it's only me.

[Guest KC]

I'll be more tuned into it going forward for sure.