IGT 05/31/06, D'backs at Mets

[Zvon]

Milledges' throw-pretty big in retrospect.

[Zvon]

[dinosaur jesus]

SteveJRogers wrote: Man we have had a rash of these long games this year. Granted nothing compares to the 20s we'd pull back in the 60's. Wonder games tended to last longer back then? If I had the time, or the inclination I'd probably spend a few hours at retrosheet figuring out an answer!

Two suggested answers to that:

First, starting pitchers stayed in longer back then, and relief pitchers were often asked to go three innings or even more. So, like the Mets tonight, you could go quite a few innings without getting deep into your bullpen. Whereas the norm now is what Arizona did tonight--six pitchers in 12 1/3 innings.

And second, there were fewer runs scored then. If neither team can score, the game can go on an awfully long time.

[Guest old original jb]

Edgy DC wrote: Pedro: 1) Picks up Lo Duca's mask for him after he catches the pop to end the first. 2) Rather than head straight for the dugout after the second, first goes out to congratulate Valentin with a manhug. 3) When he gets to the dugout, waits for Lastings Milledge and gives him an encouraging butt patting.

And I think that Pedro, while clearly a very special human being, is emblematic of this team.

[Guest Edgy DC]

And Millege provided sparkling defense thereafter.

The things I could accomplish if only Pedro would once touch my buttocks.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

What a fantastic game! Wow.

[Zvon]

[Guest Edgy DC]

Zvon wrote: Milledges' throw-pretty big in retrospect.

Reyes throwing behind the dancing runner was kewl also.

Was Valentin the first Met runner to reach third?

[Frayed Knot]

"Reyes throwing behind the dancing runner was kewl also."

Although real fukkin risky. The downside of missing that (and he almost did) is MUCH bigger than the upside of getting the easy out.


"Was Valentin the first Met runner to reach third?"

First runner for either team

[Guest cooby]

Edgy DC wrote: And Millege provided sparkling defense thereafter. The things I could accomplish if only Pedro would once touch my buttocks.

How about it?

[Willets Point]

Edgy DC wrote: The things I could accomplish if only Pedro would once touch my buttocks.

Bullet of cool? Or gay icon going too far?

[Elster88]

="Frayed Knot"]"Reyes throwing behind the dancing runner was kewl also." Although real fukkin risky. The downside of missing that (and he almost did) is MUCH bigger than the upside of getting the easy out.

Agreed. I didn't like that play. Didn't the next batter walk anyways?

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Unless that play was executed flawlessly, we're in deep doodoo. That said, it was perfect, so I got no complaints.

[soupcan]

Green was safe on that play. Metsies got lucky.

[Elster88]

I had forgotten that.

Yup, overall a pretty dumb play.

[MFS62]

About Lastings' throw.
The announcers said that "he missed the cutoff man".
From what I saw, it was low enough to be cut off and was obviously right on line to the bag.
Its the job of the player who would receive the throw and tag the runner to yell "cut" if he thinks the throw won't get the runner. That must have happened on this play. (Unless of course, Wright was so awed by the throw that he was rendered speechless)

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

Green looked out to me.

It's always hard to tell when the tag is there but the player get his arm around. I know wishful thinking always makes me see the Met player get his arm in there (like on Beltran's steal earlier) and the enemies not, but I think he was nailed. He certainly didn't argue.

[soupcan]

Looked safe to me but the throw beat him so it was Green's fault he was out not the ump's.

[Centerfield]

It's not often that an IGT reaches the 8th inning on the first page, then continues on for another 5.

Did you guys hear Keith talking about how fast the game was going? He was practically giddy.

[Frayed Knot]

"Green was safe on that play. Metsies got lucky."

It was sort of a weird tag: wrist to ankle rather than glove to foot; which moved it from close to realfuckingclose - but the defense will get that call most of the time.



"About Lastings' throw"

It had a wee bit of an arc to it and looked probably too high to cut. But it was low enough to where it wasn't obviously un-cuttable so the batter/runner prolly wouldn't advance anyway.
Very nice - though short of outstanding - throw.



"Did you guys hear Keith talking about how fast the game was going? He was practically giddy."

He hates it when these silly games interrupt cocktail hour.

[Frayed Knot]

One more thing on this game:
It may not have mattered, but nice heads up play by Valentin to move from 2nd to 3rd on Castro's grounder. Normally the rule is to go if the ball is hit to the runner's left and stay if it's to his right. This one was several strides to his right but chopped slowly enough that Valentin's correct read of it gave him plently of time to get there.

Of course as it turned out he scores either way because N.D.'s ball scooted up the gap but maybe they pitch him differently if that run's still on 2nd. Big difference between having the winning run on 3rd as opposed to on 2nd with only 1 out.

[The Big O]

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