Baseball Truisms

[MFS62]

I've heard several announcers (ex-ballplayers) say,"The pitch they throw you on a 2-2 count is the same pitch you'll see on 3-2".
Since I first heard that and started paying attention to it, it seems to me that it is true about 90% of the time.

Are there any others you've heard that seem to be true?

Later

[Centerfield]

Momentum is the next day's starting pitcher.

[metirish]

Yeah, you don't bring in your closer in non-save situations...seems to be true to me.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Bunting is for losers.

Wait, that's not a truism. That's a falseism that happens to be true.

[metirish]

If you are going to attempt to steal third with 2 outs you fucking better make it....apparantly the punishment for failing to make it is rather cruel.

[MFS62]

metirish wrote: If you are going to attempt to steal third with 2 outs you fucking better make it....apparantly the punishment for failing to make it is rather cruel.

Irish, I beleive that is a corollary of the famous admonition: "don't make the first out or the third out of an inning at third base".

Later

[DocTee]

A pop foul behind third is the shortstop's play.

[HahnSolo]

When a pitcher drives in a run, the announcers are contractually obligated to say that he "helped his own cause."

[Guest Rotblatt]

"Derek Jeter's spit cures cancer."

McCarver's been right all along. Who knew?

[stevejrogers]

Ever notice how it never fails that the guy that makes the gem of a defensive play leads off the next inning?

If you walk the leadoff guy he will ALWAYS endup scoring

You really have to wonder why ANYONE pitches to (insert whatever hot slugger is on a very hot stretch)

[nymr83]

="SteveJRogers"] If you walk the leadoff guy he will ALWAYS endup scoring

i've heard before that he is more likely to score than a leadoff single is, but i'm not sure where i heard it so don't take this as fact or anything.

[Frayed Knot]

The fact that I've never seen/heard any stats that'll back the notion that a leadoff walk will score more often than a leadoff single leads me to believe that it's NOT actually true just something that people say because either they think it is or want it to be.
I'd like to see some data on the topic and somebody's gotta have those stats around.

[nymr83]

i'm sure someone has the stats but i'm not really sure where to look so i just mentioned it for anyone else who cares to check it out. like i said, don't take this to be fact until someone finds the stats.

[Centerfield]

http://www.retrosheet.org/newslt18.htm#GetOn

[stevejrogers]

Good pitching always beats good hitting

Pitching and defense wins championships

[Guest old original jb]

YNAGAYTYAWYW, YNABAYTYAWYL

I think Bret Sabermetric used to say this, before he jumped the shark, so to speak (i.e. before so many years of rooting for the Mets made him lose his mind entirely.)

Or maybe it was some other sage.

[stevejrogers]

old original jb wrote: YNAGAYTYAWYW, YNABAYTYAWYL I think Bret Sabermetric used to say this, before he jumped the shark, so to speak (i.e. before so many years of rooting for the Mets made him lose his mind entirely.) Or maybe it was some other sage.

Uh, what?

[Frayed Knot]

COOL! (from CF's link)

[u:fc9c667f27]All Runners[/u:fc9c667f27]
Single - 27.8%
Walk - 25.5%
HBP - 28.0%
Errors (to 1b) - 28.4%
Force out/FC - 20.7 (makes sense that it's lower since now there's an extra out)
Total - 26.6%


[u:fc9c667f27]Leadoff Batters[/u:fc9c667f27]
Single - 40.3%
Walk - 40.8%
HBP - 40.4%
Errors (to 1b) - 42.6%
Total - 40.5%



I always suspected there was little or no difference between how a runner got on vs his odds of scoring; there's just no logical reason why there'd be anything other than a random difference.
Of course that doesn't stop generation of broadcasters from saying otherwise.

[soupcan]

="SteveJRogers"] ="old original jb"]YNAGAYTYAWYW, YNABAYTYAWYL I think Bret Sabermetric used to say this, before he jumped the shark, so to speak (i.e. before so many years of rooting for the Mets made him lose his mind entirely.) Or maybe it was some other sage. Uh, what?

You're Never As Good As You Think You Are When You're Winning, You're Never As Bad As You Think You Are When You're Losing

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Frayed Knot wrote: that doesn't stop generation of broadcasters from saying otherwise.

So now the truism "Oh, those bases on balls!" can be countered by its own abbreviation: "Oh...balls!"