Non-clever poll on the Benson trade

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Let's try it again with more traditional choices...

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I voted hate, and I think I've now voted for the cycle.

I voted love for Delgado, like for Wagner, neutral for LoDuca, and I think I voted dislike for trading Seo for Sanchez. (It may have been hate, but I think it was dislike.)

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Dislike, but I'm not yet ready to say that I hate it. Dislike, but with an open mind.

[metirish]

I voted 'dislike' but the Benson thread is making me hate him now....

[Guest sharpie]

Dislike. Hate way too strong.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I'm surprised; we have a vote for "love."

[A Boy Named Seo]

I think the "love" vote was registered by our newest member "Two-bit Jorge".

[Guest cooby]

I'm more surprised that we have a vote for "no opinion"

[seawolf17]

Dislike. I know Benson's not Bob Gibson 1968, but Julio's too close to Other Bob Gibson 1984 for my tastes. Maine's the dealbreaker, I think. Too early to tell.

I popped open real Bob Gibson's b-r.com page before submitting this... look at these World Series stats:

9 games started
8 complete games
81 innings (the one game he didn't complete, in '64, was Game 2; he went eight. He went ten innings for the complete game W in Game 5)
0.889 WHIP
1.89 ERA

SICK.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Delgado: 60% liked, 20% loved, 11% disliked, 3% no opinion.

Wagner: 56% liked, 28% loved, 9% disliked, 6% no opinion.

LoDuca: 46% disliked, 21% liked, 19% no opinion, 7% loved, 4% hated.

Seo: 46% disliked, 26% hated, 20% liked, 6% no opinion.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Plus he had two homeruns.

One of the best parts of the Gibson story is that he took a year off before starting his baseball career to tour with the Harlem Globetrotters.

[MFS62]

I hit "dislike".
I would have preferred it if they got rid of Zambrano and kept Benson.

Later

[Elster88]

I'm filled with hate right now.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

This offseason is trending in an interesting direction:

Delgado: 80% positive, 11% negative.

Wagner: 84% positive, 9% negative.

LoDuca: 28% positive, 50% negative.

Seo: 20% positive, 72% negative.

Benson (so far): 7% positive, 83% negative.

[Centerfield]

If you throw Cameron/Nady in there to lead off, I'd suspect you'd probably start off with negative as well.

[Elster88]

From a trading perspective: Delgado was part of a fire sale and Wagner was a FA. Some one needs to smack Omar with a two by four.

[Guest sharpie]

I would hit "hate" only if I "loved" Benson. Which I didn't. He was ok. I liked him more when he was a Pirate but then found myself unimpressed as a Met. Julio I've never seen (that I can remember). I did see Maine while sitting at a bar with a MFY game on. He got shelled but not as shelled by the jokers who followed him.

[Elster88]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I'm surprised; we have a vote for "love."

Another one who needs a smack with a two by four.

[seawolf17]

Elster88 wrote: ="Yancy Street Gang"]I'm surprised; we have a vote for "love." Another one who needs a smack with a two by four.

Or maybe Jorge Julio's a member of the board.

[Elster88]

sharpie wrote: I would hit "hate" only if I "loved" Benson. Which I didn't. He was ok. I liked him more when he was a Pirate but then found myself unimpressed as a Met. Julio I've never seen (that I can remember). I did see Maine while sitting at a bar with a MFY game on. He got shelled but not as shelled by the jokers who followed him.

For me, trading a starter for a non-closer reliever is almost an automatic hate. Throw in the fact that the reliever pitched in the high 5's for ERA last year and I don't care if I only like the starter. I hate the trade.

You can't get much worse than this trade. It's gawd-awful.

So you'd only hate a trade if Pedro was traded for a reliever with an ERA over 5? You need to be more hateful.


NOTE: The above is a joke. I in no way wish to influence who sharpie hates.

[Centerfield]

I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion...but I just don't see how anyone can vote for "love". Heilman may have done well as a reliever, but his starting numbers aren't as good as Benson's. Julio may be able to throw it through a brick wall, but his numbers aren't anywhere close to Heilman's. Meaning, we now have a weaker rotation and a weaker bullpen than we did Saturday morning.

[Elster88]

We now have a vote for like. What is with you people? If Bret reads this he's going to have a conniption fit.

[Elster88]

Centerfield wrote: I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion

Normally I'd agree. But when it comes to baseball, opinions can be wrong.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

We should also remember that hating a trade is different from hating a person.

I wouldn't vote that I hated Jorge Julio, unless he does something truly hateful, which I don't anticipate.

I think hate is a word that should be using very sparingly when applied to people, but in other contexts I don't really see anything wrong with it. I hate lima beans. I hate freezing rain. I hated that awful Lisa Kudrow show on HBO. And I hate this deal with the Orioles.

Here's one for the prediction archives: Jorge Julio will be the next Mel Rojas. But even if that happens, I won't hate him. And I'm hoping that a few years from now, when John Maine has won a Cy Young and a World Series MVP award for the Mets, I'll look back and love this trade. But right now I'm thinking that John Maine will be John Mitchell and Julio will be Rojas. And that's why I voted hate.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I'd love to know who voted for love.

And I'd also like to know who voted for like.

Anyone care to step forward?

[Elster88]

cooby wrote: I'm more surprised that we have a vote for "no opinion"

"No opinion" is for weenies who don't want to vote until 5 years later when they can look at the numbers and decide what they thought of the trade.

This is the genus from which the people who claim that it was okay to pass on Guerrero because they were concerned about his back hail from.

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[Elster88]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I wouldn't vote that I hated Jorge Julio, unless he does something truly hateful, which I don't anticipate.

Didn't he once electrocute a small child in his swimming pool?

[Guest cooby]

Perhaps I am just in a good mood today, but this thread is funny

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Elster88 wrote: Didn't he once electrocute a small child in his swimming pool?

Haven't we all, at one time or another?

[seawolf17]

Elster88 wrote: ="Yancy Street Gang"]I wouldn't vote that I hated Jorge Julio, unless he does something truly hateful, which I don't anticipate. Didn't he once electrocute a small child in his swimming pool?

Wasn't that Mariano Rivera?