All-purpose baseball card thread (part ll?)

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

If I got a Soler card, I'd put it in my kid's bicycle spokes.

[seawolf17]

No, you'd sell it on eBay. (Or you'd send it to your dear friend who would love to have one for his card set for his newborn son.)

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

True - that's an option

[Willets Point]

Bump.

[seawolf17]

Topps just released another "retro" set, this time updating the old Allen & Ginter's set. The Allen & Ginter tobacco company issued a set of 50 sports cards in 1887 titled The World's Champions, Series One. This N28 set included ten baseball players, plus oarsmen, wrestlers, pugilists, rifle shooting, billiard players, and pool players. Besides the hard to find baseball cards, Miss Annie Oakley and Buffalo Bill Cody are favorites among cigarette card collectors. These wonderful cards were inserted into Richmond Straight Cut slide-in-shell packets of ten cigarettes.



Topps brought back the old design and the old concept, putting together a beautiful 350-card set.



All the major players are there, as well as celebrities like Takeru Kobayashi (the hot dog eating guy), Jennie Finch, and Mike Tyson. In addition, the set features historical figures, such as the Wright Brothers, Kaiser Wilhelm II, and a handful of presidents.

I dig the hell out of this set; the cards are gorgeous, and in four packs I've pulled a Beltran, a Wagner, and a Ryan Howard autograph:

[stevejrogers]

Sweet stuff.

By the way, I swear I think a set exists but I can't find verification of it, but sometime early in the Mets HOF run (probably the year the original broadcast trio got inducted) they had a set of cards of all the Met HOFers up to that point (Joan Payson, Bill Shea, Stengel, Weiss, Hodges, Murphy and may or may not also the broadcasters) given away at Shea.

The only reason I ask is this would be clearly the only known card of Payson, and Shea, and probably the only known card of Johnny Murphy as a GM (MFY cards of the Fireman plenty available) and could be the only known card of Lindsey Nelson (Murph and Kiner got on cardboard in the 2002 All Amazin Team set by Fleer)

Anyone know anything about this set?

[Willets Point]

Steve exists again!!!

[Guest cooby]

This is lovely

[Guest KC]

Re: the cards they gave out last night, are they generally available or was it
only a Shea give-away? How many cards are there in all. I'd like a set and am
willing to trade my dupes to complete one.

My inventory:

Gooden 2
D Johnson 2
Mazzilli 2
Mitchell 3
Straw 3

[stevejrogers]

This is the same stuff we got as well

For those interested, here the cards are on an ebay auction:



I like the fact that Maz's return was from 1986-1989 yet Topps chose an early 1980's picture for Maz's card

Starting to wonder if the reason Straw was pressured into coming was that Topps didn't want the embarrasment of Kevin Mitchell being the only guy represented in the pack to be at Shea = SC = 1986

In the promo on the Mets website they made it seem there were much more cards availiable, this would be like the Mothers Cookies sets (SK, is THAT where you got your old handle from? = ) handed out on the West Coast and Texas teams (company was taken over by Keebler and no longer exists) throughout the 1980's up to the early 2000's.

Essentially you got a pack that included extras and had to trade with other fans, ect. I'm not sure of the mechanism that could get you the full set though, as I do see complete sets packaged in the Mothers/Keebler packages pop up on eBay

[stevejrogers]

Okay, it appears Mothers Cookies still is in buisness, just they haven't done the Stadium Give Away sets in a long time, and Keebler took over the mantle during the last few years of the style's history, stopped sometime in the early 2000's

[Zvon]

I really hated the 86 topps card style.
But they were black and white borders--making the black part blue was a nice touch.

[stevejrogers]

Kind of had a 1971 retro look. The next year I think they were going for the 61 retro look with the wood grain border

[Zvon]

SteveJRogers wrote: Kind of had a 1971 retro look. The next year I think they were going for the 61 retro look with the wood grain border

Yea-
but the two tone look in 86--it made off center cards stand out like 10 times worse looking. They should have gone with just one color like the 71 cards.
I loved that years style.
Firts set I ever collected to completion.

[stevejrogers]

Quote from the "Cards Lost their luster" thread

Edgy DC wrote: I clipped this from... somewhere. The New York Mets are teaming up with Topps and Hyundai to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the 1986 team that won a World Series title. On Aug. 19, the first 25,000 fans to enter the stadium will receive a set of cards in the style of 1986 Topps cards. The set includes Darryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, Ray Knight, Davey Johnson, Gary Carter, Kevin Mitchell, Keith Hernandez, Sid Fernandez, Ron Darling, Howard Johnson and Roger McDowell.

Hmmm, Davey check, Gooden check, Mitch check, Straw check.

List does not mention Mazz (Davey's card is a check list back and only lists the aforementioned 5 out of 5) so wheres Knight, Gary, Keith, Sid, Darling, HoJo and Roger?

[Zvon]

SteveJRogers wrote: Hmmm, Davey check, Gooden check, Mitch check, Straw check. List does not mention Mazz (Davey's card is a check list back and only lists the aforementioned 5 out of 5) so wheres Knight, Gary, Keith, Sid, Darling, HoJo and Roger?

....In a different pack?

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Zvon wrote: ="SteveJRogers"] Hmmm, Davey check, Gooden check, Mitch check, Straw check. List does not mention Mazz (Davey's card is a check list back and only lists the aforementioned 5 out of 5) so wheres Knight, Gary, Keith, Sid, Darling, HoJo and Roger? ....In a different pack?

MK opened three packs (his, mine and D-Dad's), and all three of them had identical cards.

[seawolf17]

All six of us got the same cards too. Very odd, considering a Carter card was the image they used to promote the giveaway!

[seawolf17]

So I've decided to put together a binder of Mets history for MiniWolf, featuring Topps baseball cards through the years. I spent a few days selecting nine cards from each set, trying to get a balance between representing the stars multiple times and getting as wide a variety of players as I can. Working through eBay and through The Bench, which is where I spend most of my time that isn't spent here, I've done pretty well; I only need about 130 more cards (!!). It's a crazy project, but I'm having a lot of fun putting it together... and it's something we can build together every year as he grows up.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

It's really not my intention to be a party pooper. But it's as I said in Steve's thread in the other forum, don't make any assumptions about what your kid's interests are going to be. Don't set yourself up for too big a letdown if he doesn't give a damn about the Mets, or baseball, or whatever else.

And more importantly, don't ever put yourself in a position where your kid will feel that he's disappointing you if he doesn't share your interest.

[seawolf17]

(Don't tell my wife; it's an excuse for me to buy baseball cards. It really has no bearing on the kid whatsoever... he's six months old.)

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

(I'll keep my mouth shut!)

(Can you send me your wife's e-mail address and phone number? Thanks!)

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Only my third is a baseball fan. But it's a fandom that makes up for his siblings' lackings.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Yancey - "And more importantly, don't ever put yourself in a position where your kid will feel that he's disappointing you if he doesn't share your interest."

Well said, but a little brainwashing while their impressionable doesn't hurt.

[MFS62]

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=228&p=2&c=562951

Later

[Willets Point]

Looking forward to the 2007 cards commemorating the great Mets moments in the upcoming NLDS.

[seawolf17]

I love Willets' creative bumps.

Another Topps turn-of-the-century design set hit the market this week, the 2006 Turkey Red. Modeled after the old T3 Turkey Red set from the early 1900s, the set features very cool old-style artwork.

http://www.vintagecardboard.net/gallery/cyyoungt3.jpghttp://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/coyote47sc/K16.jpg
An original T3 Cy Young and a somewhat newer original 2006 Turkey Red card

I'm still working on the Allen & Ginter set mentioned earlier in this thread, so I don't know that I'll spend a lot of time or money on this one, but I did buy a pack just for kicks today and I pulled a Billy Wagner "white variation" (instead of the grey border like on the Wright above, the border is white -- they have red and black variations in varying degrees of short-printings as well), so that was nice.

[stevejrogers]

Man, Topps is definatly going all out with their retro kicks.

Funny, they kind of played around with it when they relaunched Bowman in 1990 (or maybe it was 89, IIRC) but then scratched that and pretty much let Bowman be just another high end set loaded with Rookie Cards

I guess the success of the Mickey Mantle Archives set really "set the tone" for the whole retro and retired player craze thats been around for about 10 years now.

See thats what I mean with Mickey Mantle is the Elvis of baseball!