Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 With Wagner in place, I have these guys making up the remainder of the pen:HeilmanShadesTakatsuZambrano (technically)BellHamulackWe need a LOOGY, and it would be nice to have an 8th inning guy leading to Wagner in the ninth, but if we went to war today, I could live with this.Do we bring back Looper? How about Bert? Is this the season age catches up to him?
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 Is Royce Ring still in the picture?Is Bartolome Fortunato still Mets property?
Guest sharpie Guests Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 I'm down with the Bring Back Bert campaign.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Author Posted November 28, 2005 Sorry. I was going with the guys from the 25-Man thread.Fortunado, along with Yates, are due back from injury I believe.I have no idea what the deal with Royce Ring is.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 I appreciate Bert's performance last year. Let's leave him alone and let lightning strike him for the second time somewhere else.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 Fortunato's still around. And Ring's still here.Some of these guys will probably be traded. At least one of them will be.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 Thank you, Elster. I thought I was the only person who was very much in the anti-Bert camp.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 I wouldn't mind seeing Berto back, but I wouldn't be crestfallen if he goes somewhere else.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 ]Heilman Shades Takatsu Zambrano (technically) Bell Hamulack Ishii is still technically in the picture also.I farmed out the Ham.
duan Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 i was one of the bert naysayers but unless he's looking for silly money I think he did enough for the Mets to be worth another whirl. 1.5 guaranteed up to 2.5 in incentives?
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 Bert made less than a million last year. I'd offer $1M to bring him back, but no more than that, and for one year only.Oh crap, we still have Takatsu. If he makes the roster, it had better be because he had a surprisingly good spring.With Eyre gone, I don't know if there are any LOOGY's on the market or the block, in which case Ring and/or Hamulack had better step up.I'd like to see a fair competition for the last two spots, with a number of guys already in the organization capable of filling those roles.
DocTee Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 It's taken me months to ask this, but try as I might I can't figure it out:What the hell's a LOOGY?
Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 ]I farmed out the HamTo the Nippon Ham Fighters?
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 Don't be so shy about asking about goofy-assed Crane Pool acronyms.LOOGy = Lefthanded One-Out Guy
DocTee Old-Timey Member Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 I was close: Lefty Only One (and then) Gone
Guest Rotblatt Guests Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 Here's a quote from the Times that warmed my heart:]The search for a setup man for Wagner should be somewhat easier. The Mets may already have him. Minaya said yesterday that he was elated with the emergence of Aaron Heilman and indicated that he became less tradable once Wagner signed. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/30/sports/baseball/30mets.html?pagewanted=all
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2005 Posted December 1, 2005 Minaya's elation with Heilman, now that Wagner is here, may be "Great, we have Wagner to close, so Heilman can go back to the rotation."Of course, the line directly preceding that makes it seem like Omar thinks Heilman will be a setup guy.I've been clamoring for a response from Healey for a while but I think he hasn't been around recently, but this is just another example of how a writer can be pulling ideas out of a certain orifice without risking his career, his reputation, or death and dismemberment. He is taking Omar's words and making it seem like Omar is saying Heilman will be a setup guy, when in fact his elation over having Heilman AND Wagner may have nothing to do with the setup role.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 Daily Snooze, 12/13: AMAZIN' DESIRE: Antonio Alfonseca would like to fill the void created by the loss of Hernandez in the Mets' bullpen."Antonio loves the direction they're going in and they're one of the teams he asked me to contact. I hope in the near future I speak to Omar Minaya about that," agent Juan Iglesias said.The 33-year-old righthander went 1-1 with a 4.94 ERA for the Marlins last season. He appeared in only 33 games because of a stress fracture in his pitching elbow that sidelined him for three months, but Iglesias said the injury has "healed perfectly."
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 Yes! Sign Jimmy Six Fingers! One of my favorite pitchers.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 I'm surprised he's only 33, sign him now Omar.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 What part of 4.94 ERA says "now"?
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 That ERA was in 33 games, in 04 in 79 games he had a 2.57 ERA, of course in 03 pitching in 60 games he had a 5.83 ERA, I think he'd be a good addition.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 I'm not following your logic, Irish.This:metirish wrote:That [4.94] ERA was in 33 games, in 04 in 79 games he had a 2.57 ERA, of course in 03 pitching in 60 games he had a 5.83 ERAdoes not seem to go with this:metirish wrote: I think he'd be a good addition.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 Well he's some what proven and I'm confident Peterson would help him.
Guest sharpie Guests Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 I dunno. Whenever I've seen him in recent years he's been way hittable.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 He's a body-type dead ringer for Benitez. But I'm kinda intrigued rooting for a team with a full "freak show" complement: Oldest Player, 6-finger guy... maybe we can bring Jim Abbott out of retirement.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 For the record, I just want to sign him to see him set the club record for Most Career Fingers.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 "Whenever I've seen him in recent years he's been way hittable"And whenever I've seen him in recent years he's been at weigh stations, apparently exceeding most highway regulations.Bob Costas still had the best line when he referred to Alfonseca as a pitcher who's been "digitally enhanced".I'm not sure he's be a lot better than any random guy off the farm.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted December 13, 2005 Posted December 13, 2005 About whom was it said in the Freak Injury Thread: "That's not a freak injury; that's an injury to a freak"?
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